Jump to content
House Price Crash Forum

Quiet Guy

Members
  • Posts

    519
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Everything posted by Quiet Guy

  1. Well I'm glad we're agreeing, now, that vaccines can influence viral evolution. I don't recall you asking for any evidence - just stating that mutations are random. Changing the subject yet again.
  2. That isn't really relevant to the point I made. Evolution will determine which mutations are consequential and which are not. Essentially, mutations have differing odds of improving the chances of virus replications i.e. survival. That's meaningless. The point I made is that vaccines can apply evolutionary pressures to viruses. Our vaccines may promote vaccine escape. For anybody reading this and wondering what is going on, here's the quote and source I made earlier to explain why leaky vaccines can affect evolutionary outcomes: https://www.quantamagazine.org/how-vaccines-can-drive-pathogens-to-evolve-20180510/ "A vaccine is a novel selection pressure placed on a pathogen, and if the vaccine does not eradicate its target completely, then the remaining pathogens with the greatest fitness — those able to survive, somehow, in an immunized world — will become more common. “If you don’t have these pathogens evolving in response to vaccines,” said Paul Ewald, an evolutionary biologist at the University of Louisville, “then we really don’t understand natural selection.”"
  3. Well if you believe that, fair enough. Any chance of a data source?
  4. You're changing the subject. You said "The virus doesn't counter everything we do. Mutations are random quantum events." I responded by poiting out some evolutionary theory that the virus can react to things "we do". Vaccine efficacy is a separate topic.
  5. Using the links in Annex 1 to https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting Yellow Card data from 9/12/20 to 08/09/21: Deaths Brand 28 Unspecifed 16 Moderna 1,075 AstraZeneca 526 Pfizer ---- 1,645 total deaths Suspected Injury Reports Brand 1,074 Unspecifed 15,565 Moderna 231,161 AstraZeneca 113,312 Pfizer ------- 361,112 total injury reports We should assume that some of the reports are just coincidences. It's not clear what proportion of vaccine injuries / deaths go unreported. I cannot find any record of another vaccine with adverse reactions of this scale. The best discussion of the risks I cold find is: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4599698/
  6. If we had sterilising vaccines, there would be no replication and hence no effect of a mass vaccination in the middle of a pandemic. Sadly, none of the sar-cov-2 vaccines are sterilising i.e. they don't stop viral replication and hence evolution. By introducing a non-sterilising vaccine into a mass pandemic, variants that can escape the vaccine have a evolutionary advantage. Effectively, we have modified the evolutionary landscape by applying a selection pressure for escape variants using leaky vaccines. https://www.quantamagazine.org/how-vaccines-can-drive-pathogens-to-evolve-20180510/ "A vaccine is a novel selection pressure placed on a pathogen, and if the vaccine does not eradicate its target completely, then the remaining pathogens with the greatest fitness — those able to survive, somehow, in an immunized world — will become more common. “If you don’t have these pathogens evolving in response to vaccines,” said Paul Ewald, an evolutionary biologist at the University of Louisville, “then we really don’t understand natural selection.”"
  7. Yeah, I know, I'm off topic. The is the UK House Price Crash site - not American Business Rents Crash. But I found this interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Trz65P1gnA Could anything like this happen to the UK housing market?
  8. Years ago, I heard a story of an encounter between some children in Belfast: A group ask a boy if he is Catholic or Protestant? He replies that he's Jewish. Not at all satisfied, the next (immediate) question was: are you a Catholic Jew or a Protestant Jew!
  9. It may not be quite that simple. Antibody-dependent enhancements seem to be an unknown. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971220307311
  10. As killerbee says, "no-one is here anyway". However, FWIW, I appreciate you taking the trouble to highlight the dangers. Strange times.
  11. 3. It's escaped from a Wuhan lab. I was really surpirised to see that in your list. There are all sorts of arguments about vaccines, ivermectin, masks, hydroxychloroquine, how bad it is and so on but why do you care about the CCP saving face? China is still resisting efforts for an impartial investigation and has repeatedly lied e.g. claiming it was not transmissile between humans as late as January 2020: https://www.ft.com/content/2a70a02a-644a-11ea-a6cd-df28cc3c6a68 The WHO are still being denied access to investigate: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-55555466 There are sources who claim it was a lab leak: https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/chinese-defector-virologist-dr-limeng-yan-publishes-report-claiming-covid19-was-made-in-a-lab/news-story/36decb0c2bca253b696dec0cb665c970 If China has nothing to hide, why does it keep blocking scientists from investigating the virus? If there was a zoonotic expanation, why not let scientists investigate and publish the details?
  12. Uhm, doesn't that mean that vaccines are the real solution and lockdowns are just a temporary solution?
  13. Let's just say, hypothetically, we actually did this and cleared out the UK. How long would it take the UK to become reinfected? Don't you have to isolate the UK forever? And are you sure there are no animal reservoirs that might let the virus survive? Instead of the gulag, I'm more interested in vaccines. Heck, even some cheap drugs like Ivermectin seem to show a lot of promise as treatment and prophylactic.
  14. Can you supply a link for information about trump and organised crime? I'd have expected the press to be talking about it a lot if there is evidence.
  15. My view is that this virus was designed to easily infect humans in what is known as gain-of-function research. I agree with your observations about the importance of weak immune systems which makes me wonder: is there such a thing as a method for evaluating immune system performance for an individual?
  16. I'm also getting the same message: https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/09/01/covid-tests "Juliet Morrison, a virologist at the University of California-Riverside, said she believes any test with a cycle threshold over 35 is too sensitive. "I'm shocked that people would think that 40 could represent a positive," she said." https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa619/5841456 "We propose that for inpatients whose symptoms have fully resolved and 2 tests over 24 hours apart are either negative or close to the Ct cutoff (ie, Ct >34), they likely do not have meaningful or transmissible disease" Is this one of the reasons why the UK has daily infections are rising while daily deaths are pretty much flat?
  17. It seems possible that Western nations have been playing around with virus 'gain of function' research for reasons that look questionable. Anybody who talks about this is ignored by most mainstream media. Here's an article back from May that discussed some of the problems with the 'PRRA' genome insert that does not appear to be natural: https://www.peakprosperity.com/coronavirus-are-our-scientists-lying-to-us/ Dr Martenson's question was reasonable: Where did that PRRA seqqunce come from? The only answer he received was abusive. Dr Li-Meng Yan's paper is far more detailed and she has stated that she was getting information from viroligists in China before they were told to keep quiet. If you were involved in this sort of monkeying about with viruses, would you want to talk about it? If you Google on "Former MI6 head Virus was accidentally released from Wuhan lab" you'll find plenty of references to another angle (the forum doesn't seem to like direct cut and pastes of news links.)
  18. Thanks. I think I went a bit too far downplaying potential issues taking too much zinc. Yes, we should all be getting our nutrients from healthy food but how do you know you have enough?
  19. The data appears to be significant. When you look at it from a risk / reward aspect, it's compelling: If it doesn't help, you've wasted a little money on pills but not done any harm (overdosing vitamin C, D3 or Zinc is not a thing unless, maybe, you take mental doses.) If it does help, you've dodged or reduced a nasty and potentially dangerous viral infection.
  20. From the link: "The head of Reed, Britain’s largest recruitment firm, has predicted that up to five million people could be made redundant ..." OMFG. That's worse than anything I recall reading recently. Five million unemployed should create a huge crash. I'd prefer if I could wake up from the nightmare and it wasn't happening.
  21. +1 You'll have to wait until Christmas 2021 to get the whole picture. It's all about unemployment and we don't have the data yet.
  22. Are we talking about the long term? Without major changes to the UK tax system and/or demographics, property will tend to rise in the long term but I'm more interested in what will happen in 18 months. It won't but buying right now could be a bit painful. In a year or so, there might be some bargains for speculators but getting a mortgage may be difficult.
  23. IMO it needs at least a year, probably two. I believe unemployment is (unfortunately) the key. If unemployment jumps after the end of the furlough and doesn't do a 'V' recovery, some households will face the choice of selling or being repossessed after approximately 18 months have passed. Not very nice but that's what we're looking at. I'd be fascinated to know what the lenders think. I say tighter lending criteria is a consequence of the anticipated effects of unemployment by the lenders. If I'm right, lending criteria will just constrict like a noose. Difficult times.
  24. Give it a year or two. Unemployment will be the key, unfortunately. We're not even out of furlough yet.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.