Friday, Sep 03, 2010

HPC....here we come!

Herald Scotland: House Price Crash on the Way

Experts have warned of a property prices slump, with some predicting values to plummet by at least 10% by the end of next year.
The stark forecast comes after Nationwide, the second-biggest lender in the UK, reported a second consecutive monthly drop in the value of property for the first time since February 2009.

Posted by magnaman @ 07:54 AM (1117 views) Add Comment

14 Comments

1. Pyracantha said...

I know someone who has been stubbornly stating the "houses only go up" line. They are now looking at having to sell their family home (as income has dropped) and move to a not-so-nice area. When we STR-ed he was very sceptical, and recently even tried to say the media articles only applied to England, not Scotland. Well here's the news story I have been waiting for. People must have such short memories, it's not that long ago that the Herald was all for HPI. As for EA's now saying a correction was overdue... The hypocrisy is breathtaking.

Friday, September 3, 2010 08:23AM Report Comment
 

2. Crunchy said...

"The tumble is widely believed to be fuelled by a flood of properties entering the market as homeowners set the wheels in motion to move house."

10% is considered a tumble? Now moving house equals a crash? Too much doublespeak. Where have all the straight talkers gone?

Friday, September 3, 2010 09:10AM Report Comment
 

3. sibley's b'stard child said...

"Experts have warned of a property prices slump, with some predicting values to plummet by at least 10% by the end of next year".

Nice to see the word 'experts' in this context; adds a certain validity to the claims. Still, more of the same reporting can only due the HPC cause justice. A couple of my homeowner colleagues were even mentioning that houseprices were falling; I wisely kept my counsel.

Friday, September 3, 2010 09:21AM Report Comment
 

4. Crunchy said...

1. sibley's b'stard child said...I wisely kept my counsel.

Keeping you counsel flat is a good idea, innit dude, zerow friksion.

Friday, September 3, 2010 10:08AM Report Comment
 

5. techieman said...

sbc - no actually i disagree with putting any credibility on these "experts". Few forecast the 1st phase - even fewer the bounce - so why anyone would listen to them is beyond me. if someone had forecast accurately both phases, then there would be some credibility.

I have always said it was a shame that JD forecast continued falls in HPs - even though - on here he publicly got the March 09 bottom in the stock markets.

Friday, September 3, 2010 10:25AM Report Comment
 

6. sibley's b'stard child said...

No, I don't mean credibility in the experts per se; but if public sentiment is to be influenced to 'our way of thinking' then articles like these can only help facilitate the 'Correction mk2'.

And, in fairness (although this may be a reflection of my economic shortcomings), the engineered DCB was an all-mighty anomaly, no?

Friday, September 3, 2010 11:34AM Report Comment
 

7. sibley's b'stard child said...

@ 4 Crunchy,

Innit doh bruv, lolz. I can has subzidized houzing.

Friday, September 3, 2010 12:06PM Report Comment
 

8. techieman said...

"the engineered DCB was an all-mighty anomaly" perhaps but it could have been forecast. And should have been by anyone who purported to be an "expert". or should that be "guesser"?

Friday, September 3, 2010 12:06PM Report Comment
 

9. techieman said...

in any case if everyone believed the experts - then there wouldnt have been a DCB, based on what you are saying now - or have i missed the point?!

Friday, September 3, 2010 12:09PM Report Comment
 

10. sibley's b'stard child said...

Techie, I think we're talking at cross-purposes. All i'm alluding to is the well-documented power of mass media to influence public opinion. You're referring to the credibility of these 'experts' (guessers probably being more appropriate).

Friday, September 3, 2010 12:31PM Report Comment
 

11. techieman said...

well my point was if they influenced public opinion that much, then why would we have had a dcb - when they were all saying we are going to have more falls? i think they influence some of the public some of the time - but after the public (market) has already started the move.

so they dont see the turning points - they just extrapolate moves AFTER them. to that extent yes that may cause some herding.

Friday, September 3, 2010 12:38PM Report Comment
 

12. sibley's b'stard child said...

"so they dont see the turning points - they just extrapolate moves AFTER them. to that extent yes that may cause some herding."

Exactly techie, that's what i'm referring to and all I care about quite frankly. Listen, i'm simply a layman; not a speculator, trader, gold-bug or whatever. All I want is a modest two-up/two-down for my family which won't require me to enter a Faustian pact to do so. By and large, the media have been complicit in maintaining the bubble so I welcome any article which may influence the wider populace (of which the HPC membership is in no way representative of) to the contrary. In this context, FP was a bloody effective ambassador for HPC as he gave a voice to the priced-out against a barrage of VI-laden boll*cks. Whether his predictions were erroneous (in hindsight) is irrelevant as far as i'm concerned.

Friday, September 3, 2010 12:53PM Report Comment
 

13. Crunchy said...

10. sibley's b'stard child

I have been trying with techie for some time now. He doesn't get it.

Friday, September 3, 2010 01:12PM Report Comment
 

14. techieman said...

just to clarify - i really wasnt having a go at jd. i think he knew that if the stockmarkets were going to bounce it was likely that the housing market would too. i just think either he thought the bounce would be small, or he didnt want to tempt fate. either way he would have been given true guru status had he said there would be a bounce. then he would have had more folowers at the turn which would have helped, the market fall more.

that is the shame i think. anyway i suppose its marginal what effect he would have had

Friday, September 3, 2010 01:16PM Report Comment
 

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