Wednesday, Sep 01, 2010

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Express: FAMILY HOME PRICES 'RISE £91 A DAY'

Homeowners with family properties have seen the value of their houses rise by around £91 a day during the past year, research has indicated. The value of detached homes increased by 13% during the year to the end of June, to stand at an average of £299,295, according to Halifax. The group said the price rise had outperformed all other property types, which saw price gains of between 8% and 9% during the same period. Suren Thiru, Halifax housing economist, said: "... it is notable that detached homes have seen the largest average price rises. Such properties are likely to have benefited from greater demand from those buuyer groups currently most able to enter the housing market."

Posted by mark wadsworth @ 12:11 PM (2630 views) Add Comment

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1. titaniccaptain said...

"Homeowners with family properties have seen the value of their houses rise by around £91 a day during the past year".............where?....certainly not in Wales where they are are falling like a stone.

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 12:17PM Report Comment
 

2. mark said...

"Have your say" is unavailable for this story

exactly it is a story

why are the express stopping comments?

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 12:19PM Report Comment
 

3. timmy t said...

"... it is notable that detached homes have seen the largest average price rises. Such properties are likely to have benefited from greater demand from those buuyer groups currently most able to enter the housing market."

Disagree entirely... The number of people who "enter the housing market" at this level is pretty negligible.

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 12:19PM Report Comment
 

4. sibley's love child said...

HPI giveth and HPC taketh away.

Hope you enjoyed your illusory wealth you f*ckin' numpties.

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 12:22PM Report Comment
 

5. mark wadsworth said...

@ SBC, the wealth might be illusory, but the debts are real :-)

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 12:26PM Report Comment
 

6. Paul said...

Hang on, why is this data different to the HPI published each month by the Halifax? Where did 8, 9 and 13% come from when the current average annual rate published by the Halifax is 4.9%?

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 12:32PM Report Comment
 

7. tudorian said...

@ bore da tc
I've started looking at Wales (specifically carmarthenshire coast). I'm not seeing much activity captain; other than increases of housing on the market. Solid three bed cottages and terraces are available under £120,000 in the SA16 and SA17 postcodes
There are few sales so of to speak, but good quality detached houses seem to be stubbornly priced out of kilter with local wage / incomes.
The autumn public sector cut should (imho) really set prices racing downwards in Wales

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 12:32PM Report Comment
 

8. mark said...

tudorian
Wales is highly dependent on public sector jobs, so the cuts will be particularly severe for wales

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 12:42PM Report Comment
 

9. titaniccaptain said...

Bore Da Tudorian

"The autumn public sector cut should (imho) really set prices racing downwards in Wales".........with 70% of the workforce in Wales in the public sector there could be quite a fall.....but I had a chat with Jack C yesterday and there is also the government funded building projects that are being shelved which will knock the private sector for six........

Not just building projects but also government funded infrastructure that needs maintenance will also hit the private sector hard.....

Carmarthanshire is a nice are but take a look at Pembokeshire.....its still quite resilient but there are some bargains to be found.

But if your looking for coastal beauty bargains look more on the north west stretch of coast between Cardigan and Port Meirion....there are some real bargains but its quite a way from hospitals and other facilities.

I was lucky in that after dropping my house price by over 50% from peak that I found someone else prepared to do the same in a stunning area.....

I bought east of Brecon and I am blown away by the area..........I went looking for 'The Shire' and I ended up with Rivendale....

Lovely properties in that area (East of Brecon) and very negotiable......lots of properties been on teh market for over 2 years not shifting....take a look at this house just come on the market in Crickhowell.

http://www.homesonview.co.uk/Scripts/ShowProperty.asp?css=hov&CompanyID=CLEECRIC&AgencyID=CLEECRIC&ID=CRP00321

On peak it would have been valued at around £350,000...........

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 12:52PM Report Comment
 

10. Keef319 said...

Grrrr, it angers me SO much!!! I HATE the Express!!

How can this be FRONT PAGE NEWS!?!?!?!?

Funny though that the Metro has the "Double dip fears for house prices" headline on their front page...lol. But not in the Daily Mail...

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 12:55PM Report Comment
 

11. sibley's love child said...

@ MW Quite, although i'm sure they'll be able to inflate their debts away with the massive wage inflation that's surely in the pipeline; I mean, good god man, the quarterly GDP figures were revised upwards...That's got to stand for something hasn't it. Hasn't it?

As an aside, SBC? I think I can guess what the 'B' stands for - I may well amend my username accordingly....

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 12:57PM Report Comment
 

12. mark said...

comparing house price peaks with prices now is like saying a mars bar in 1820 cost two turnips, they are only worth what a market will sustain and the people will pay.. there is no guarantee they will ever go up again.

if you only had two carrots then you couldnt buy a mars bar instead you bought some smarties instead..

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 12:58PM Report Comment
 

13. tudorian said...

thanks tc
I've always found Wales to be beautiful and the people friendly (yes, even to a saesneg!)
I'm hoping to relocate / downsize my business from bristol and the west wales coast ticks all boxes.Good luck in the new house

ps keeping on the LOTR themes, isn't Port Talbot known locally as Mordor?

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 01:01PM Report Comment
 

14. sibley's love child said...

Mark, what if there was an engineered shortage of turnips due to strict agricultural laws and the over-provision of gardening utensils; what effect would that have on carrots?

What site am I on again?

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 01:02PM Report Comment
 

15. titaniccaptain said...

@Mark I think comparing prices between 2007 and now is very useful to establish why prices in some areas are falling faster than others.....i.e. why is it that in excellent areas in Wales where there is less of a reliance on the public sector prices are still falling fast?

Granted in the South Wales Valleys areas where there is high dependency on the public sector prices are in free-fall but that has little baring on areas where the property market has been held up traditionally by people retiring/investments from the south east of england.

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 01:05PM Report Comment
 

16. mark said...

I personally think many people moved to wales because house prices have been cheaper than england, however they either find they overstretched themselves so they could get that acre of land or they found the infrastructure is so poor, cost of traveling to their jobs in england, lack of broadband etc they want out..

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 01:09PM Report Comment
 

17. titaniccaptain said...

@Tudorian

I am also a Saesneg with Welsh envy lol.

Quite strange you make the comparison of Mordor....

The view I have of the back of the Brecon Beacons is one of the finest views I have ever seen period but beyond the beacons sits Merthyr Tydfil (Where I used to live) and there is a great sense of Merthyr being Mordor.....

Port Talbot is indeed a dump.....I had a very very beautiful girlfriend from there and I every time I went down to visit here I felt like the very life was being drained from me......not a place I would live even for a six figure wage packet......

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 01:10PM Report Comment
 

18. titaniccaptain said...

Agreed Mark but that is part of the charm for many people like myself......the only thing I want to be within half an hour of is a hospital for obvious reasons.

If you live within 5 miles of a market town you will be fine for broadband.

There are major towns in Wales that I recommend you stay close to (Within 5 miles) if you wish to enjoy the best of both worlds (Country/town)....

Brecon.

Abergavenny.

Haverford West.

Carmarthen.

Aberystwyth.

Fishguard.

Caernarfon.

Llandudno

Bangor

Welshpool

Newtown.

Cardigan.

Llangollen.


St Davids.

Porthmadog.

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 01:18PM Report Comment
 

19. mark wadsworth said...

@ Sibley's - SBC was my complete mistyping of SLC. Dunno how that happened.

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 01:23PM Report Comment
 

20. titaniccaptain said...

"SBC was my complete mistyping of SLC. Dunno how that happened."..............you pressed the wrong key perhaps?

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 01:25PM Report Comment
 

21. titaniccaptain said...

@Tudorian

Don't know if this will work but this is the view......

View 1

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 01:35PM Report Comment
 

22. titaniccaptain said...

Mordor Tydfil 17 miles beyond the mountains lol

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 01:36PM Report Comment
 

23. sneaker said...

Good to see the ever-reliable Express firmly grounded in the real world

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 01:49PM Report Comment
 

24. brickormortis said...

The application of averages based on skewed data to a more global set is fantastic for making everyone feel rich.

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 01:52PM Report Comment
 

25. brickormortis said...

I tell you that in West Mids, Shropshire and Staffs there has been no rise in price of a detached house.

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 01:53PM Report Comment
 

26. mark said...

all i can see are sheep, where are the roads, cars, tescopolies and hoodies?

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 02:00PM Report Comment
 

27. titaniccaptain said...

"all i can see are sheep, where are the roads, cars, tescopolies and hoodies?"................in england :-)

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 02:11PM Report Comment
 

28. sibley's love child said...

No problem MW; i'm not at all precious about some bloomin' username. Would have been rather inventive had it been intentional; adds a certain edginess to it...

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 02:12PM Report Comment
 

29. jack c said...

@ titaniccaptain - The Brecon Beacons where the men are men and the sheep are nervous !

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 02:22PM Report Comment
 

30. titaniccaptain said...

@Jack C.......

Indeed it is a terrible place....but I think I can get used to it :-)

View 2

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 02:32PM Report Comment
 

31. mark said...

wellies with extra leg holds on front..lol

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 02:33PM Report Comment
 

32. hpwatcher said...

There is a terrible magenta cast on that picture (above); was it a digital or was it from a slide?

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 02:57PM Report Comment
 

33. titaniccaptain said...

@HPW

Iphone.......cr@p pictures....

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 03:05PM Report Comment
 

34. timmy t said...

TC - sure you're not just seeing it through rose tinted spectacles!?!

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 03:09PM Report Comment
 

35. mark said...

more like Dame Edna Everage glasses "blue tint"

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 03:12PM Report Comment
 

36. titaniccaptain said...

It is the glow of the pink sun that shines over Wales.....'Pink sky at night Graham Norton's delight'.....

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 03:32PM Report Comment
 

37. tom101 said...

Looks great. Well done TC!

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 03:48PM Report Comment
 

38. sibley's b'stard child said...

@ MW

Mwa-ha-ha

With thanks to 'D' of the Webteam....

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 04:07PM Report Comment
 

39. Mad_maxx said...

Funny that they've disabled have your say. Probably something to do with the posts they've had on their previous HPI ramping articles. Don't want the sheeple to see the truth per chance?

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 04:49PM Report Comment
 

40. Si_wrexham said...

tudorian said..I've always found Wales to be beautiful and the people friendly - Have you come to Wrexham mate? Its not the pleasantest of places!

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 07:51PM Report Comment
 

41. hash browne said...

Anyone noticed there are 2 different versions of this article on the Express website?

You can comment on this one....

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/196890/House-prices-up-91-a-day

Sibley's on the case as usual!

Wednesday, September 1, 2010 07:55PM Report Comment
 

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