Monday, Apr 19, 2010
Ouch!!
Dailymail: More than 500,000 public sector jobs at risk in post-election spending squeeze
More than 500,000 public sector jobs could be axed in the next five years under a post-election squeeze on spending, it was claimed today.
The figure is far greater than any of the major political parties are forecasting, according to the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development.
The jobs cull could lead to a 10 per cent reduction in the 5.8million public sector workforce, 'dwarfing' anything in the party election manifestos, the CIPD said.
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1. Dave_the_box said...
Labour have employed just under a million extra public sector workers since they came to power (with arguably no benefit in services), so 500,000 is only half the potential number.
2. smugdog said...
The Champagne corks will be popping in the 'Mark' household tonight after this great news story.
It might be Mrs Mark's lucky night....... then again, perhaps not!
3. happy mondays said...
Oooooouuuuuch, that's gotta hurt!
4. inbreda said...
smugdog misses the point
again
5. rumble said...
More than 500 000 potential entrepreneurs to be given a kick in the pants.
6. mark wadsworth said...
So?
Add to that the 2.1 million taxpayer funded jobs not included in the above = 8.1 million, out of which only about two million are properly frontline (nurses, teachers, doctors, coppers, soldiers, social workers, firemen, coastguards, prison officers etc) whose combing annual salaries might be about £70 billion, i.e. roughly one tenth of total annual government spending.
Even if you quadruple that for other overheads, cars, kit, medicines, back office staff etc, add on £160 billion for welfare and pensions and £50 billion for loan and interest repayments, we could get the annual public sector deficit down to to a £40 billion annual surplus.
7. smugdog said...
Smugdog understands the "sold to rent" brigade's aspirations ever so well.
So don't dare to paint a "first time buyer" caring picture.
It just don’t wash ol pal.
8. mark said...
time to ignore smugdog totally, only a child would respond the way he or she does
9. Crazyp said...
So what will this mean for house prices. 500K times average salary is a big hole in the economy.....
10. Simon said...
I think the CIPD guy is living in the clouds almost as much as the rest of the country if he thinks the digital and creative sector will grow to take up the slack .
A lot of companies will give ex-civil servants a wide bearth so it's going to be extra difficult for many of them .
None of our politicians have the guts to make cuts of even this scale , let alone the scale which is needed to get ourselves out of this mess .
11. Crazyp said...
Quote from Dailymail comment:
If had a job with the words 'outreach' 'diversity' or 'co-ordinator' in the job description, I would be worried.
Hope this leaves all the 'useful' coppers, nurses, teachers etc out of the cull....
12. mrflibble said...
The sold to rent brigade wheel out the plight of FTB's when prices are rising in the same way the home-owner-ists wheel out the plight of families when prices are falling.
At the end of the day houses are casino chips to be gamed in the same way as everything else on this planet. The powers that be need to implement laws or taxes to stop this casino-style gambling operation from hurting innocent people on both sides of the coin, but they never will.
13. letthemfall said...
MW "Even if you quadruple that for other overheads,... "
Why the arbitrary factor of 4? Don't forget defence equipment - a good few billion there.
14. inbreda said...
either way - I dont think mark is rejoicing in the Gordon Brown idiocy that put the uk in the position where these cuts are necessary - which is what I thought smugdick was suggesting
15. titaniccaptain said...
Smugdog and the rest of you listen up.
How many of you sold at peak?
How many of you have good healthy amounts in the bank you could buy a house outright with or use fro a hefty deposit?
If you are wealthy on the back of the boom then do as I did.
BLOW THE LOT!!!!!
That's right folks you too can become as skint as I have become when you just let go of that money and spend it like there is no tomorrow.
If your wife wants a car buy her one......if you want every guitar you have ever dreamed of....buy them!
If you fancy a drink n drugs weekend in a brothel with a chef brought into the brothel to serve you food as you continue your debauchery then GO FOR IT.
It may be irresponsible but at least you get to enjoy the money.....
I am 37 and have been retired twice in my life and each time had to find new ways to make money because I keep spending it to the point of living off beans and toast for 2 years.
So its all good news and this is why.....before long the country takes a nose dive so best to spend that money like mad whilst the good times turn into Stalinesque misery......OR the country makes a recovery and we can all get on with making ourselves rich by hard work or crime or whatever...THEN we can all buy a house!!!!
Tud Da!!!!!!!!!
I have also been thinking about life if there is no God.......
Well.
I have come to the conclusion that we are in essence serving our brain.
Our body is merely a way for our Brain to enjoy this universe and experience joy in the here or now so why not bypass the middle man and let us all grow opium and get a healthy heroin habit to maximize pleasure in our short unimportant existences.
Forget procreation art and everything else....The Beatles were wrong!
They should have sung 'All you need is Skag'
Spend your money!!!!!........................
Because none of us are given any guarantees for how long we will live and whats the point in amassing huge quantities of wealth if your too old to enjoy it?
Call me irresponsible but I think we should enjoy spending......it looks like Gordon Brown was right!!!!!
Lets Party!!!!!!
16. rumble said...
"At the end of the day houses are casino chips to be gamed in the same way as everything else on this planet. The powers that be need to implement laws or taxes to stop this casino-style gambling operation from hurting innocent people on both sides of the coin, but they never will."
-- The government are the gamblers. Guy Fawkes... calling Guy Fawkes... Any necromancers in the house?
17. paranoia blue said...
It is rather sad, when objective posting is erroneously portrayed as being biased – especially, when we’ve had to endure years of total VI distortion, from a host of sources. In fact, we are still having to stomach it, in their final death throes!!!
18. rumble said...
"I have come to the conclusion that we are in essence serving our brain. Our body is merely a way for our Brain to enjoy this universe..."
-- Question starts post implicit assumption of purpose. Our body and brain are both necessary parts of an organism which happens to be good at sustaining itself in the Earth environment. We carry on because we eat, we don't eat to carry on.
19. titaniccaptain said...
Chicken or egg rumble..........
Who cares about how long we live and interact with our lives?....as long as we enjoy what we have and enter the abyss unafraid!!!!!!
Sorry but its the logical conclusion to take this path of mass opiation if God does not exist....Karl Marx got it all the wrong way around.
"Religion is the opiate of the masses"......should read "We all love a brothel filled with Skag and you can leave your sandwiches at the door"
Forget food that just prolongs life....ask any Heroin addict if he would prefure a sandwich or a fix.....even if he has not eaten for 4 days straight he would rather the fix.....
20. Chris Giften said...
Good, 500,000 less. Can't we go for 1,000,000? The most unproductive, strike prone, sick leave taking, interfering, unhelpful and for the most part pointless group in society. I say reduce the public sector to the absolute minimum required to run basic services.
21. icarus said...
That must be damned good rum cap'n.
22. wally said...
I'm with you TC. Not the drugs mind as I find reality (whatever that is) pretty wierd.
I was saving for a house but blew a fair chunk of the deposit on a spanky new car. Couldn't really see the house thing happening, and its all got so silly anywhay now that any crash is going to be so humugous that I'll be able to sell the car in a couple of years and buy two or three houses.
If there is no crash then there is no point in having money unless you are seriously loaded. If you have a bit put aside then the govt will take it away. So best to have nothing then everything gets paid for.
Mad, sad and soon to be bad.
23. vacuouspolitician said...
The unpleasant truth...I'll let you work out what...
24. rumble said...
"Chicken or egg " -- this is no chicken and there are no eggs. Unless... I ran out of bacon because I ran out of eggs - No - I simply ran out of bacon. Chicken egg is an issue of sequence. Bacon egg is an issue of reason. You religious lot start your questioning after the assumption of purpose. Somehow the arguments require reason at the start, then abandon it. The non-existence of a god is not a big deal, you just have a little newbie anxiety. Relax, have some opiate. No need to get excited about it. You'll feel wonderfully free after a while, and all sorts of things will make sense. Just because you have no purpose is no reason not to wander around aimlessly.
25. alan_540 said...
The Captain's been on the rum again (or some Class "A" substance) LOL
26. titaniccaptain said...
No Rumble....I am still a Christian.
I was simply looking into the world from the perspective of a non Christian who had come to realise the futility of life without God.
And your wrong on Chicken Egg/Egg bacon......
The Chicken egg thingy has infinite uses which I have yet to invent and superimpose.
27. titaniccaptain said...
No Alan I am giving up drink again................that's the problem.
28. alan_540 said...
Good luck with that Captain, btw whatever happened to the economic voice?
29. alan_540 said...
Smuggy, saw this and thought of you :
30. layers said...
TC - keep the faith pall, as it's always darkest before dawn. Unfortunately there's probably 5.5hrs to go!
31. rumble said...
"non Christian who had come to realise the futility of life without God."
-- Mr G is also islamophobic. Futility of life - for a lot of things you can simply replace 'God' with 'I', same thing that baffles the socialists.
32. titaniccaptain said...
@ Alan_540
"whatever happened to the economic voice?"..........
Take a look.
http://www.economicvoice.com
The Economic Voice is doing really well Alan changed it from regurgitating articles from other newspapers to writing our own stuff. We have new writers coming in some of them are economists using aliases others are nut cases like myself.
In theory we are only 5 months old since we had the switch over in November to the new site. But we get around 50,000 NEW visitors coming to the site every month so I am chuffed.
33. mick rupert said...
@27 Nice work TC!