Wednesday, Feb 03, 2010

UK next

The Telegraph: Greece under EU protectorate as funds shift fire to Portugal

The European Commission has ordered Greece to slash public spending and spell out details of its austerity plan within "one month", invoking sweeping new EU Treaty powers to impose a radical shake-up of the Greek economy.
Greece's labour federation immediately called a general strike for February 24, dashing hopes that Europe's provisional backing for Greek crisis policies would restore investor confidence.

Posted by devo @ 10:55 PM (1543 views) Add Comment

24 Comments

1. devo said...

The European Commission has ordered the UK to slash public spending and spell out details of its austerity plan within one month, invoking sweeping new EU Treaty powers to impose a radical shake-up of the UK economy.

yeah, sounds about right

Wednesday, February 3, 2010 11:08PM Report Comment
 

2. devo said...

dear dreary,

i try to tell friends and family that money and politics just got interesting

but they just won't listen

please advise

yours beseechingly,

devo

Wednesday, February 3, 2010 11:39PM Report Comment
 

3. devo said...

dreary says

devo, dwelling on the inevitable global economic meltdown is having an adverse affect on your mental health

your family and friends are right - best not to think about it

regards

dreary

Wednesday, February 3, 2010 11:43PM Report Comment
 

4. cynicalsoothsayer said...

"Spanish bank BBVA shocked markets last week with a 94pc fall in profits, largely due to property losses. Spain's mortgage association said days later that the "real estate sector is bankrupt" and threatened the financial system."

Thursday, February 4, 2010 12:06AM Report Comment
 

5. devo said...

more and more plates to keep spinning

fascinating social documentary

irish take it on the chin

greeks up in arms before the cuts are confirmed

spaniards (in their various forms) ?

portuguese?

the brits will be up for a good ruck... as ever

Thursday, February 4, 2010 12:14AM Report Comment
 

6. freemanphil said...



The EU has become the IMF, an IMF for Europe. Austerity to maintain payments to bankers for debt encouraged by economic hit men.

Thursday, February 4, 2010 12:33AM Report Comment
 

7. devo said...

phil

53 minutes?

get real!

Thursday, February 4, 2010 12:38AM Report Comment
 

8. devo said...

this is the age of the soundbite

hit 'em with it

Thursday, February 4, 2010 12:44AM Report Comment
 

9. freemanphil said...



OK, this is 20mins.

Thursday, February 4, 2010 12:44AM Report Comment
 

10. devo said...

Nah, you've got 3 minutes ( think 7" singles and/or copulation)

show me what you've got

i prefer skim reading

i'm funny that way

Thursday, February 4, 2010 12:53AM Report Comment
 

11. freemanphil said...

10mins is the lowest I'll Go, Orwell Devo.

Thursday, February 4, 2010 01:02AM Report Comment
 

12. devo said...

I met you in the middle (4:42)

i heard what i already knew... ie economic 'hit men' had power, but less power than the jackals

their reign is over

Thursday, February 4, 2010 01:15AM Report Comment
 

13. freemanphil said...

Cynicism is a weakness Devo. His point is in the third world, that if the economic hitmen fail, they eventually send in the army as you see in Iraq and Afghanistan. Translate that into Europe, and you have the horrific possibility that we will see war within the EU from international forces to protect for the bankers what they consider to be theirs. Just look at how Brown has been using anti-terrorism laws against Iceland for not putting all their GDP to pay off fraudulent accounts encouraged by economic hit men like John Perkins. Your cynicism is what drives us towards this world. You feel, in your gut that you are part of the elite, that you would have been told about this by your friends on the 9'oclock news and your friends at your favorite newspaper, but you are not the elite and you have the wool pulled over your eyes whilst all of these people massage your ego. It is pathetic.

Thursday, February 4, 2010 06:55AM Report Comment
 

14. freemanphil said...

Notice that default is not an option for Greece. IMF style austerity is the option. Greece would recover if debt could be written off and taxes cut along with services, but, if you maintain unsustainable debt without allowing default and bankruptcy, you get third world poverty. They are using the Lisbon Treaty to force this through, which explains the rush to enact that legislation. Note, the EU can now enforce similar action in the UK. Just imagine how horrid our lives will be when the EU makes us slash all the hospitals and schools when interest rates go to double digits and nobody can afford the payments without giving up 90% of their standard of living, to maintain payments to the bankers. When you understand how much money is involved, it becomes easy to understand that this is a conspiracy of theft.

Thursday, February 4, 2010 06:59AM Report Comment
 

15. fjcruiser said...

The end of the Euro is in sight......

Thursday, February 4, 2010 07:35AM Report Comment
 

16. freemanphil said...

FjCruiser, you just don't get it. With the Lisbon Treaty, they will increase taxes and reduces services to where Europe will be a third world receivership. If the people do not stand up and demand sovereignty, then the successful countries will be bled dry to feed the useless countries and all will be in austerity and poverty. We are literally entering a goulag. The third world proves that this tyranny can be sustained, and, we have already adapted, as a society to being de-industrialized. The establishment think now that we are ready for the next stage of subservience.

Thursday, February 4, 2010 08:02AM Report Comment
 

17. Alfredo said...

So we have gone from irresponsible bankers to irresponsible countries, bail them out and it will be France and Germany holding up Europe while the rest carry on.

Let them fall

Thursday, February 4, 2010 08:35AM Report Comment
 

18. nickb said...

Yes, this accords perfectly with Klein's analysis in 'shock doctrine,' of crises going right back to Pinochet's Chile. Corporations and the financial sector will benefit from privatisation, deregulation and public spending cuts, wherever they can be forced. Expect the same in the UK, in fact we already see it with each party clamouring to be the true party of austerity measures and biggest and most skillful wielder of the axe.

Thursday, February 4, 2010 09:33AM Report Comment
 

19. Goldbug9999 said...

"the successful countries will be bled dry to feed the useless countries "

Thats got to be good for us - right ? :-)

Thursday, February 4, 2010 09:36AM Report Comment
 

20. p. doff said...

Looks like this site has morphed into Devo and Phil's personal soapbox.

Thursday, February 4, 2010 09:55AM Report Comment
 

21. growler said...

@18

... and S2R1

Thursday, February 4, 2010 11:23AM Report Comment
 

22. Geniebottle said...

Agree totally with Phil
Don't know how anyone can ignore this financial manipulation anymore as it hits us in the face. So obvious that it is the elephant in the room.
Another reason why house prices are deliberately kept out of reach of the X generation. The X generation being the first of the new third world.

Thursday, February 4, 2010 11:24AM Report Comment
 

23. glasgowstr said...

The problem for a lot of people here I guess is that we read all the articles, try to be well informed and stay ahead of the average citizen but there is precious little we can do about the tsunami of changes coming our way. "Adapt and survive" I know, but we all are restricted within governmental/societal/legal etc constraints. Apart from STR, some maybe dabbling with precious metals etc what are people actually doing to protect themselves? TFH replies elsewhere please...

Thursday, February 4, 2010 11:37AM Report Comment
 

24. rumble said...

Freeman, "Greece would recover if debt could be written off and taxes cut along with services, but, if you maintain unsustainable debt without allowing default and bankruptcy, you get third world poverty"
-- Stuff the people who are owed money? They borrowed, above their means. It's not complicated.

"EU can now enforce similar action in the UK. Just imagine how horrid our lives will be "
-- London has been living in Lalaland - it needs devaluing. Condon will experience greater change than the rest of the UK.

"to maintain payments to the bankers"
-- Are you referring to bankers of nationalised banks?
-- If you don't like bankers, stop whining and join Mr G, Mystie and myself (yep, all 3 of us) - ready for a run?

-- Are you saying all countries are going to be reduced to third world living?

Thursday, February 4, 2010 01:24PM Report Comment
 

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