Friday, Feb 26, 2010

The Office for National Mis-information?

Telegraph: Britain emerged from recession quicker than first thought

'The Office for National Statistics said that the UK's gross domestic product - the broadest measure of overall economic performance - increased by 0.3pc in the final three months of 2009, rather than the 0.1pc expansion it had previously estimated.'

Posted by hpwatcher @ 11:06 AM (1089 views) Add Comment

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1. 51ck-6-51x said...

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/pdfdir/oienr0210.pdf

Friday, February 26, 2010 11:19AM Report Comment
 

2. 51ck-6-51x said...

^ is the sumary.

This is the release: http://www.statistics.gov.uk/pdfdir/oie0210.pdf

Friday, February 26, 2010 11:21AM Report Comment
 

3. mystie010 said...

Anything that prompts a quicker election is great if Brown has got any sense he will go now and ride off the back of this news. I can't wait till this New Labour shower have gone!

Friday, February 26, 2010 11:24AM Report Comment
 

4. wdbeast said...

Wow, Brilliant, well done Gordo.

The only way is up!

Unemployment UP
Debt UP
Interest rates UP
Cost of living inflation UP

A total Fook UP

Friday, February 26, 2010 11:28AM Report Comment
 

5. 51ck-6-51x said...

I'm quite surprised:
So, this is mostly due to improvement in the services sector, which is in a large part due to financial services (108.2 -> 108.6 and a high weight). Looks like the city is pulling us up by our bootstraps after all - maybe we can all claim benefits except a select few who can flog financial products to the foreign industries selling us our flat screens and the like.

Friday, February 26, 2010 11:34AM Report Comment
 

6. hpwatcher said...

The fools think it's all over.

Friday, February 26, 2010 11:35AM Report Comment
 

7. Thecountofnowhere said...

Brown Fiddle while London Burned.....

Friday, February 26, 2010 11:42AM Report Comment
 

8. paranoia blue said...

The phrase “think it’s all over” is actually ambiguous.
I know my interpretation :{

Friday, February 26, 2010 12:02PM Report Comment
 

9. i remember the 90`s said...

And yet the £ goes down futher against the $ not much confidence is there.!!!!!!!!!!

Friday, February 26, 2010 12:21PM Report Comment
 

10. brickormortis said...

How does this fit with yesterday's release? Surely it doesn't add up!?

Friday, February 26, 2010 12:30PM Report Comment
 

11. mountain goat said...

"Q4 UK GDP was revised up from a rise of only 0.1% to 0.3%, this was largely the result of general government expenditure.General government expenditure rose by 1.2% (not annualized) during the period, the strongest rise since 2003."
http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2010/02/26/159946/arti-fiscally-enhanced-gdp/

Anyone would think there was an election imminent.

Friday, February 26, 2010 01:09PM Report Comment
 

12. Bystander said...

Point one - statistics are created to suit whomever is asking for them, in this case GB and HMG from the ONS, a government department - so no impartiality there.
Point 2 - 1.2% rise in general government spending.....ah, that would be GB's much celebrated Keynesian model, which would mean that when the next government are forced to rein in spending can we expect a similar drop of 1.2%+ and therefore drop us back into recession. These government spends are purely short termism, and as MG said: "Anyone would think there was an election imminent."

Friday, February 26, 2010 01:16PM Report Comment
 

13. mark wadsworth said...

The ONS are pretty straight actually, but this 0.2% upwards revision will just mean that this quarter's figure is 0.2% lower than it otherwise would have been.

Friday, February 26, 2010 02:13PM Report Comment
 

14. drewster said...

I'm not surprised at all. If you've ever run a small business, you'll know that there's quite a bit of flexibility in the date when a VAT invoice is raised. It's safe to assume that a lot of extra invoices were raised in December (to beat the VAT increase) even though the goods were shipped / services were delivered in January.

As a simple example, here's an article from the Telegraph's Motoring section, printed a week before the VAT increase:
Telegraph: Hidden pain of VAT increase
"The fact is, the VAT rate is currently 15 per cent and will stay that way until December 31, 2009. And I placed my formal, written order for the new car before that cut-off date. However I now have to wait for the factory to build my humble runabout, which is scheduled to be delivered to me in late winter/early spring next year."

No doubt this VAT invoice contributed to the GDP figures, even though the car won't be delivered for 2-3 months. All told, we can expect next quarter's GDP figures to surprise to the downside.

Friday, February 26, 2010 04:28PM Report Comment
 

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