Wednesday, Feb 24, 2010

Opening old wounds

The Telegraph: Greek rescue in danger as deputy prime minister attacks 'Nazi' Germany

Chants of "burn the banks" are a foretaste of tensions once austerity measures bite in earnest later this year.
Theodoros Pangalos, deputy prime minister, said Germany had no right to reproach Greece for anything after it devastated the country under the Nazi occupation, which left 300,000 dead. "They took away the gold that was in the Bank of Greece, and they never gave it back.
One banker said the situation was surreal. "How can they call the Germans incompetent Nazis and still expect a bail-out?"

Posted by devo @ 09:44 PM (2720 views) Add Comment

21 Comments

1. quiet guy said...

The Greeks were happy enough to work with 'nazis' when they adopted the Euro.

This must be the saddest post of the day.

Wednesday, February 24, 2010 10:10PM Report Comment
 

2. devo said...

This must be the saddest post of the day.

indeed. it's a (greek) tragedy

Wednesday, February 24, 2010 10:18PM Report Comment
 

3. devo said...

Did the Germans steal Greece's gold and fail to return it after the war, or did the deputy prime minister make it up?

Wednesday, February 24, 2010 10:27PM Report Comment
 

4. enuii said...

I'm sure the first thing the Germans did on occupation was to remove all bullion from the vaults as they did all over Europe, if I am right a good proportion of it is still missing.

Wednesday, February 24, 2010 10:34PM Report Comment
 

5. devo said...

Audit the Germans!

Wednesday, February 24, 2010 10:36PM Report Comment
 

6. Tw11 said...

I can't believe the Deputy Prime minister is using such emotive language. It's all falling apart. This just doesn't look good.

Wednesday, February 24, 2010 11:08PM Report Comment
 

7. rumble said...

Is there some rule about how far back we can go? What about the Romans?

Wednesday, February 24, 2010 11:17PM Report Comment
 

8. devo said...

what romans?

Wednesday, February 24, 2010 11:27PM Report Comment
 

9. Penny said...

The telegraph article failed to mention that the Greeks were deeply offended by the extreme front cover of the German magazine "Focus" depicting the Venus of Milos (a famous greek statue) making an obscene gesture and with the title "cheats of Europe". Although I believe the Greek deputy prime minister has over-reacted in his comments, Greeks are emotional people and feel they have become the target of the world media. And all this in the middle of a harsh austerity programme.

Wednesday, February 24, 2010 11:41PM Report Comment
 

10. greenshootsandleaves said...

It's always nice to see a paper such as the telegraph trying, day by day and in its own small way, to help Greece find a solution to its current problems.

Wednesday, February 24, 2010 11:47PM Report Comment
 

11. paul said...

We are witnessing the EU disintegrate before our eyes. Jokes aside, this is really rather serious.

Wednesday, February 24, 2010 11:51PM Report Comment
 

12. Dagenhamdave said...

The dastardly Hun, it's all his fault of course!

Thursday, February 25, 2010 12:03AM Report Comment
 

13. vacuouspolitician said...

...deeply disturbing.

Thursday, February 25, 2010 12:16AM Report Comment
 

14. rumble said...

These Romans.

Thursday, February 25, 2010 01:54AM Report Comment
 

15. devo said...

11. rumble said... These Romans.

italy's army isn't quite so formidable nowadays

nor is germany's for that matter

Thursday, February 25, 2010 06:25AM Report Comment
 

16. devo said...

Denninger...

The EU has backed itself into an untenable corner. If Greece truly cheated on getting into the union - that is, there was no conspiracy, there was no knowledge in Brussels what was going on, they truly pulled the wool over everyone's eyes and lied their way in, then the proper action is for the EU to expel them and ban every bank involved (including Goldman) from ever doing business with the EU again.

But if the EU knew about it and played "bubblenomics" then they have a bigger problem because there's Spain, and Portugal, and perhaps Italy involved in this mess too.

There's roughly EUR $3 trillion in PIIGS debt involved here all-in, and I don't think the ECB or the EU is up to trying to stomach that, never mind that the Eastern European states aren't exactly stable from a fiscal perspective either.

http://market-ticker.org/archives/2004-How-To-Win-Friends-And-Influence-People-NOT!.html

Thursday, February 25, 2010 06:37AM Report Comment
 

17. alan_540 said...

Or maybe it was just a gamble that didn't pay off - the EU hoped that it could guide Greece in the right direction economically as part of the great EU block of countries. But... bad times hit and it now appears that they're unwilling to stump up the cash - maybe 'cos they're spending it already supporting their own economies. If Greece does fall, I wonder who will be next on the list...

Thursday, February 25, 2010 09:44AM Report Comment
 

18. rumble said...

So how far back in time can the blame game be played?

Thursday, February 25, 2010 11:01AM Report Comment
 

19. mken said...

the Brits and the Tiger of Mysore

Thursday, February 25, 2010 11:07AM Report Comment
 

20. icarus said...

18 - and look what the Greeks did at Troy. The towers were reduced to rubble and corpses were heaped in the streets.....kites and vultures wheeling above the smoke and dust.....women swaying to and fro in an ecstasy of grief, crying out the names of the dead and chanting dirges (That's enough pillaging - ed.)

Thursday, February 25, 2010 12:21PM Report Comment
 

21. braindeed said...

icarus @20

The towers were reduced to rubble and corpses were heaped in the streets.....kites and vultures wheeling above the smoke and dust.....women swaying to and fro in an ecstasy of grief, crying out the names of the dead and chanting dirges

Sounds like Dagenham

Thursday, February 25, 2010 05:26PM Report Comment
 

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