Friday, Feb 26, 2010

De-mystifying God's work

Bloomberg: Secret AIG document shows that G Sachs minted most toxic CDOs

A document has come to light showing a list of the mortgage CDOs on which GS and others were paid $62bn on their CDS insurance with AIG. Turns out (1) banks mostly owned, or had ties with, mortgage lenders/originators of the bad loans (2) the CDOs created on these mortgages fell sharply in value almost immediately and (3) the banks buying the CDSs from AIG were the ones underwriting the CDSs. The authorities also told AIG to pay GS et al in full when the former tried to negotiate to pay out at a discount. Then AIG was bailed out. The authorities kept the aforementioned list of CDOs secret (to protect GS or the financial system?). One thing's sure - the banks made money at the front end from buyers of the CDOs and then made more at the back end when the CDOs imploded.

Posted by icarus @ 01:25 PM (463 views) Add Comment

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1. icarus said...

Compare this with an except from an article in the current 'Economist' about Goldman Sachs:

"Despite the firm's swashbuckling reputation its senior people have a conservative streak, which explains its decision to pull back from mortgages in 2006, though even its risk managers failed to spot the danger of being so heavily involved with AIG."

Friday, February 26, 2010 01:31PM Report Comment
 

2. icarus said...

Point (1) of intro should have said "banks mostly involved with these CDOs and CDSs also owned, or had ties with, lenders/originators of the bad loans.

It all boils down to dealing themselves aces.

Friday, February 26, 2010 01:37PM Report Comment
 

3. mark wadsworth said...

I'm prepared to give the UK government and banks the benefit of the doubt and assume they were just incompetent, greedy, Home-Owner-ist, whatever, but what goes on in the USA is out and out criminal activity. This sort of thing will drive Karl Denninger apoplectic.

Friday, February 26, 2010 01:55PM Report Comment
 

4. icarus said...

Also - point (3) the banks buying CDSs from AIG were the ones underwriting the CDOs (not CDSs) that were insured by the CDSs. So the intro should have read:

A document has come to light showing a list of the mortgage CDOs on which GS and others were paid $62bn on their CDS insurance (taken out on these CDOs) with AIG. Turns out (1) banks most involved with these CDOs and CDSs owned, or had ties with, the mortgage lenders/originators of the bad loans bundled in these CDOs (2) these CDOs fell sharply in value almost immediately and (3) the banks buying the CDS insurance from AIG were the ones underwriting the CDOs. The authorities also told AIG to pay GS et al in full when the former tried to negotiate to pay out at a discount. Then AIG was bailed out. The authorities kept the aforementioned list of CDOs secret (to protect GS or the financial system?). One thing's sure - the banks made money at the front end from buyers of the CDOs and then made more at the back end from CDS payouts when the CDOs imploded.

Friday, February 26, 2010 02:47PM Report Comment
 

5. freemanphil said...

Isn't it great to see real journalism again? The leaking of secret documents!! Finally, journalists are relying on more than just press releases.

Friday, February 26, 2010 08:26PM Report Comment
 

6. icarus said...

FMP - The Economist version @1 supports what you said the other day about Americans' having a better handle than UK hacks on what's taking place.

Friday, February 26, 2010 10:17PM Report Comment
 

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