Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009
Now Brown's losing it too..
Telegraph: Gordon Brown in angry exchanges with broadcasters
I thought his interviews on TV this morning were strangely short..
Seems The Sun's front page got to him..
No sign of the unedited footage anywhere online though.. pity..!
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1. smugdog said...
Did you witness his speech? Magnificent. Down and out a few months ago but now a Phoenix from the ashes. Watch him ride on the crest of the wave of economic recovery from here on in.
2. uncle tom said...
You mean this one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCQREoAmsu0
3. uncle tom said...
More seriously, Smugdog, take 8 minutes out to watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9sO25aFjDs&feature=related
The electorate will remember what has gone before, more clearly than any conference speech now...
4. tyrellcorporation said...
LOL we haven't had any good trolls for ages... looks like we're still waiting.
5. smugdog said...
Sure will later UC. I wonder how he will fare in live debate? I will look forward to that when it happens!
6. tyrellcorporation said...
The live debate won't happen IMO. The Consevatives go last and Camerons speech will probably sink GB without trace. Coupled with The Sun switching sides yesterday, I think there is actually a good chance Mandy will lead Labour into the next election.
7. tyrellcorporation said...
...maybe not officially though.
8. hpwatcher said...
His incompetent and slimy grip on power is well and truly slipping.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/video/Gordon-Brown-Interview-With-Sky-News-Political-Editor-Adam-Boulton/Video/200909415395835?lpos=video_Article_Related_Content_Region_1&lid=VIDEO_15395835_Gordon_Brown_Interview_With_Sky_News_Political_Editor_Adam_Boulton
9. ontheotherhand said...
Brown’s speech to the Labour conference in 2005. Note full well that he understood there was a housing bubble, but thought he had beaten it…
“We will have the strength and resolution to take the right long-term economic decisions too.
Why has it been that at every point since 1997 faced with the Asian crisis, the IT collapse, a stock exchange crash, an American recession, last year a house price bubble, this year rising world oil prices, why has it been that at every point since 1997 Britain uniquely has continued to grow?
In any other decade, a house price bubble would have pushed Britain from boom to bust.
In any other decade, a doubling of oil prices would have put Britain first in last out and worst hit by a world downturn.
I tell you, it is because with Bank of England independence, cutting debt, fiscal discipline and the New Deal this Labour government has shown the strength to take the tough long-term decisions, that inflation is low, interest rates are low, growth has been sustained in every year, and we are closer than ever to the goal which drives us forward: the goal of full employment for our generation.
Labour, the natural party for economic strength in our country today.”
10. uncle tom said...
You have to wonder what Brown really thinks - does he really believe that there will be an economic miracle betwen now and next June? - or is he hoping for some major disaster, a Falklands event, to turn his prospects round?
He can be getting no pleasure out of being PM right now, no job satisfaction.
And just when he began to see a glimmer of light in his conference week, The Sun tossed in a hand grenade..
I can see him losing it completely, and needing to take time out in deep armchair - but would The Queen then ask for an immediate election?
I don't think she can insist on one without cutting new ground constitutionally..
11. mark wadsworth said...
@ UT "is he hoping for some major disaster, a Falklands event, to turn his prospects round?"
Ahem - do the words "Iran" and "nuclear facility" ring any bells?
12. mystie010 said...
I reckon this is the plan: Gordon gets ill around Christmas and the stress of the job and how hard he has been working to keep this country afloat will be cited as the reason (Oh poor him - he works so hard for us averting catastophes etc.). The Sun will be vilified for changing their allegence and the sympathy card will be played big style. The end result will be that the Labour party will have got rid of Brown under seeminlgly honest circumstances, when infact he himself probably had to promise to go at Christmas so that he could maintain his leadership when it was challenged a few months ago. Then around new year we will see a fresh face and a renewed Labour party ready to fight on - genius! And they think we don't know what's going on. You might think I'm in LA LA land but I say just watch this space. :-)
13. Flashman said...
Gordon Brown ceases to be Prime Minister of UK.
September to November 2009 6/1
December 2009 to February 2010 7/2
March to June 2010 1/5
After June 2010
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15. uncle tom said...
If Brown goes off sick, the press will bay for an immediate election. There is no precedent for two changes of PM between elections - but the Labour party would rather wait, and milk their perks to the end.
I don't think he would get much sympathy for throwing a sickie - there are too many people who think he should have gone to the polls already..
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17. flashman said...
These are current bookie odds, on when Gordon Brown ceases to be Prime Minister.
September to November 2009 6/1
December 2009 to February 2010 7/2
March to June 2010 1/5
After June 2010 8/1
18. uncle tom said...
I would have thought they could safely give 12:1 or better on after June - when I looked the other day, they were giving 12:1 on Labour winning the election - with or without GB..
19. mystie010 said...
Am I right in thinking that the bookies are agreeing with me then? Those odds aren't too bad certainly not an outside chance then?
20. paranoia blue said...
Major disaster!?
That is exactly what we have right now in the UK!!
21. uncle tom said...
Mystie,
I'd say the bookies are hoping to make a fat profit out of deluded Labour supporters - look at the miserable odds on a Cameron win..
22. down wave said...
His speech reminded me of all of those black and white news films that came out of Germany in the 1930's, GB's speach made sick to the pit of my stomach, he truly cam across as a Megalomaniac to everyone in my house.
Very sad and pathetic. One could almost feel sorry for him, except for the fact that he has made life very hard and distasteful for all of us.
23. dead spider said...
No.8 hpwatcher :
Cheers me dear , been trying to find it .
Very amusing :-)
ty
24. down wave said...
Here again, I posted this some years back now. I am not posting it for members posting here but just in case there is a media person, a hero or champion that can do something with it so as to assist Great Britian in sme way from the inevitable consequenceis of NU labours current fiscal and social policies. Somehow I doubt it though.
The Hidden Psychological Profiles of Mr GB And His Inevitable
Consequences
Original Opening File Date 20 January 2001.
Deep Psychological Profile Of The Hidden Personality Of Mr GB
Mr GB is a dictatorial, intolerant introverted idealistic and orderly perfectionist.
Being an introverted judging type, he is intolerant and yet has strong idealistic concerns. Being a
suppressed introvert (see below), he is powerless to implement the necessary directives to attain the
perfection in himself that he demands of others. His current profession is contraindicated for his
psychological type as it enables him to unconsciously exercise the unsound parts of his personality
by legally and financially dominating and manipulating everyone towards his overt moralistic
ambitions (and those of Mr TB). This results in him coming across as an obsessive hypocrite
expounding dictatorial behaviour supported with punitive avengement. All of this he naively
believes is for everyone’s good and he hopes that he will receive recognition. Appreciation will
never be forthcoming as Mr GB uses the hard-work, savings and estates of everyone else to pay for
His and Mr TB’s overt naive unrealistic pseudo moralistic and campaigns that he claims are to
emancipate our Kingdom. His financial schemes and self acclaimed economic success have been
paid for by using ‘spin’ to frog-march the public into dangerous unprecedented levels of person
debt. His acclaimed creation of his economic success is entirely based on massive personal and
treasury debt and is doomed to crash in the immediate future (See enclosed document: Rule
Britannia: Prime Minister TB’s & Chancellor GB’s Legacy).
Mr GB during his early formation negatively identified with the father or a father figure, although
he will contradict this should he find himself backed into a corner. Then he will claim alliance to his
father (to offset blame) and project the superiority of his family lineage of righteousness.
He grew up with stern moral prohibitions placed on him. These prohibitions, religious and moral
laws and ethical ideals were internalised in his super-ego or controlling psyche. This causes him to
quickly feel guilty if he does not comply with the standards that was imposed by his stern father
figure. His father’s sternness moulded him into an introverted child causing him to hide at the first
sign of tension.
Much of his energy is spent trying to avoid being guilty or in dealing with guilt for his
transgressions, in undoing his mistakes, or making retribution for them. Thus he has a ‘Basic Fear’
of being condemned and so he must always be right. Therefore, his psyche is preoccupied with
sparing other youngster from suffering his fate, yet in doing so, he unwittingly creates using our
taxes his exact circumstance in society: Husband-less mothers and fatherless children. Providing
our Nation with the accolade of the highest levels of unmarried mothers and teenage pregnancies in
Europe. His micro-managed economic policies have reduced the public, with the aid of Mr TB to
the dependent emotional and psychological levels of chronic appeasement, grief and apathy, causing the steep rise
in adolescence delinquency that all of are enduring.
His hidden complaint is: “I am right most of the time and it would be a better world if everyone
listened to what I have to say and obeyed.”
Nonetheless, he has a suppressed introverted side which he denies, thus he presents an arrogant and
pompous facade to conceal it.
The key defence mechanisms that he uses are repression, reaction, formation and displacement. His
abstraction is that he thinks that everything falls on him to personally improve (micro-management).
He truly believes that if he does not improve things then no one else will. He therefore becomes
increasingly fixated on organising and correcting everything and criticising anyone and anything that
does not conform to the ideals as he defines them (those of his father figure).
His deficiencies are that he is self-righteous and angry and this anger he projects onto others for their
failure for not living up to the ideals (of his father) that he fails to meet. Ethical colleagues will not
tolerate and reject his dictatorial demeanor. The direct consequences are that this manifests for him
criticism causing in him the rage (masochistic predicaments that he unconsciously desires).
His inevitable consequences are that he is fastened to a rail track of logical and rational thinking and
is concerned about the consequences of his actions, he persuades himself that things will be different
if he makes exceptions in his own case. Nevertheless, he is not exempt from the consequences of his
actions.
Eventually, the blunders of his monitory policies (primarily designed to patronise Mr TB’s agenda: A
‘sweat talking’ nice version of his father), will accumulate in an economic crisis. Then he will
become caught in the grips of his basic fear of being condemned and he will completely lose sight of
his basic desire to be right. This will result in him exposing his true character, that of the classic
family and political ‘dictator’. The resulting neurosis will bring about his downfall by contradicting
himself, doing the very thing he condemns others for: Twisting reason into unreason, truths into lies,
order into chaos, righteousness into rank perversion.
The Correct Handling Strategy For Mr GB
For Anyone That is Dominated by Him
Note: Mr GB’s average level of psychological and emotional health is chronic anger.
The Correct Handling Strategy for Mr GB:- Everyone in close proximity to Mr GB will be keenly
aware of his undertone of dictatorial anger. Anyone that dares criticise anything to do with him, his
behaviour, actions or policies will remind him of his father. As a result, he will become incandescent.
Presented with exposure or difficult problems he will seek assistance from outside. His instinctive
reaction is to run for the hills, (to hide from his stern intimidating introverting father).
1) This introvert personality type should never be allowed an office of ‘Power’, otherwise dissension
across the board will be the outcome.
2) Everything that he has done, is doing and is planning must be monitored, scrutinised and audited
with absolute ruthless ethical precision and then exposed by publishing. This is quintessential for the
reasons in points 3, 4, 5, and 6 below.
3) Although he will publicly present a facade of appeasement/propitiation and where applicable,
grief, behind the scenes he will become more severe in his judgements, he alone will know the truth
and will relentlessly make pronouncements from narrow, foreboding absolutes.
4) Ignore completely his moralising, scolding and indignant pronouncements as they apply to himself
not everyone else. They are in fact faults in his own psyche that he naively externally projects onto
everyone else. This is brought about by a deep desire to be seen as a Noble Extrovert. An extrovert,
he can never be and as everyone close knows, he is far from Noble.
5) When conflict occurs, as is inevitable, he will do his utmost to be proved right and others must be
proved wrong.
6) If others do not do as he says, he will become inhumanely cruel and condemning, seeing that they
are punished.
7) Criticism, examination and analysis of all of his policies and activities is the correct handling
strategy. Remember that he will hate you like he hated his father for doing so and will become
enraged, but then you are not his father, so take no notice. He must be brought to account at each
and every stage, otherwise he will turn the table and castigate others for his inevitable failings. He
will escape by hiding, forcing others to speak and do his dirty work, moving on, leaving his mess for
others to put right, thus taking the blame. Hence the fervent need for documentation and exposure.
End
25. Josie said...
Got something against introverts down wave? Introverts are perfectly normal people in as much as extroverts are - introverts like to wind down by being alone after being in company, whereas extroverts wind down by seeking company after not coping well with being alone. They're just personality types - not flaws - one could equally describe extroversion as a flaw if one wanted to, so why would someone want to hide their introversion? I'm sorry to be rude but if you think some media person, a hero or champion is going to read the dross you've just written and think wow this guys onto something, then you're as equally deluded as GB appears to be.
26. fubar said...
Love that Renegade Economist video Uncle Tom. Should be broadcast on national telly. During Britain's got talent or the X factor or whatever the latest fad show is.
27. braindeed said...
21. down wave said...
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28. braindeed said...
21. down wave said...
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29. braindeed said...
21. down wave said...
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30. braindeed said...
Excuse me ....don't know how that happened.
31. uncle tom said...
Downwave,
I'm not saying you're wrong, because I gave up half way through..
..if you want people to take this sort of analysis seriously, you need to pay a bit more attention to spelling and grammar, (I'm no angel..) - but above all.
..use more paragraphs!
If you want someone to understand and appreciate what you want to say, they need to be able to stop and consider after no more than twenty seconds - or about fifty words - and separate statements..
..otherwise, if you just ramble on, they will gloss over and ignore..;(
32. uncle tom said...
PS..
..what I just wrote was grammatically crap - but I hope it made sense!
33. sneaker said...
Why is that almost everything I read about Brown involves him being "angry", "furious", "agitated" or "incandescent"?
Is anyone with an anger-management issue fit to lead a country? Sounds more appropriate to a tyrant -- or just someone who is out of his depth.
My theory was always that he was a great deputy but not a leader. Theory seems on track so far.