Monday, Aug 03, 2009
Things are beginning to get interesting
Market Oracle: U.S. Dollar Collapse Starting Next Monday ?
Nice graphs of USD index. This guy sets a taget of USD index 67 when it breaks down through 78.
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1. tudorian said...
I'm glad you're back posting s2r1
I always find the news items you post interesting and the comments you leave thought provoking...if a little left field
2. mystie010 said...
If the dollar tanks what does that mean for us and lower house prices? Is it a good thing? Please can someone expand?
3. flashman said...
It might be starting now. Pounds on a ride
4. drewster said...
The dollar is not going to collapse - because it has already done so. Also if you've been to mainland Europe this summer, you'll have noticed that the pound has already collapsed against the Euro. The most over-valued currency right now is clearly the Euro.
5. happy mondays said...
@ 2 If it exposes the corrupt system we have had forcibly imposed on us for centuries, it can only be a good thing (eventually)
6. sold 2 rent 1 said...
I’ve not posted for a while as the summer of 2009 is basically the calm before the storm in 2010.
For those interested I will bring you up to speed with my models.
Calleman’s model
Today maps with Feb 1967
From April to September 2009 we are basically resonating with the 1960s – a benign period that fills the gap between 2 tough periods (WW2 and the 1970s inflation).
This resonance can be seen on many levels.
1. The economy – a low inflationary period before a storm of inflation hits
2. Public support is waning for the Afghanistan War, just as public support for the Vietnam War was losing support by the late 1960s. North Vietnam launched the Tet offensive in 1968 so expect the body count to increase in Afghanistan right through August 2009.
3. A single death that rocked the world and surrounded by conspiracy theories was Michael Jackson. This resonates with the assignation of JFK in 1963.
4. Swine flu pandemic. We are expected to reach peak cases in August which maps to the 1968 flu pandemic
Armstrong’s model
The Economic Confidence Model high back on April 19, 2009 turned out to be the low for gold.
In short the 8.6 month mania upleg for gold has started. Without going into all my calculations the low in gold on 8 July was the signal which gives a confirmed date of late March/ early April 2010 for the gold mania to peak.
The are some big dates coming up
1. Late October 2009. – maps to August, 1971 when Nixon destroyed what remained of the American gold standard. Also around this time we are exactly 32 months from the top of the banking index (27 Feb 2007). When examining historical bubbles, there are clear patterns that we have; a 64 month up-phase and a 32 month down phase. Expect bank stocks to put in more lows here.
2. Very early March 2010. This resonates with the Black Death (1347-1351), the collapse of the Lombard system (1348), the massacre in Cambodia by the Khmer Rouge (The killing fields 1.4 – 2.2 dead with peak destruction in late 1978).
Armstrong’s and Calleman’s models line up exactly in early March too (PI * 10 = 31.4 years (4 March 2010 resonates with October 1978 – 31.4 years apart). In summary expect big destruction to propel gold to its mania highs by the end of this month
7. jack c said...
Good to see you posting again S2R1 - just to pick up on the point raised by drewster, I recently got back from a 2 week trip to Europe and it proved VERY expensive (Monopoly money came to mind having spent a small fortune on food alone)
8. sold 2 rent 1 said...
jack c,
Just because the Euro is high, doesn't mean it won't go higher before a collapse - come on guys - have you learnt nothing from bubbles.
My guess is the Euroland will hold together but then require a truly massive bailout in early March 2010 with the new gold (resource) backed currency out of Dubai that Russia is endorsing
Remember the Sixth Night (Nov 2009 - Nov 2010) is where power transfers massively from West to East.
9. happy mondays said...
This might explain it !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DPfKxOQGHU
10. stillthinking said...
The only way the Chinese could collapse the dollar would be if they were sitting on lots of dollars, but they are not, that is why China is always described as recycling debt. The don't hold dollars, they hold dollar IOUs and the cash they get from the debt servicing. So all they,can do is to collapse the price of dollar IOUs, not actually the dollar itself.
The price of dollar debt financial instruments has already collapsed, you read of 20 cents on the dollar for some debts. The world is still turning though. The next thing that they could collapse is the US treasury debt.
But the only reason why debt would collapse is because of default because otherwise you get the full value after holding to maturity, and the main reason for default in todays climate is perversely debt itself. There have already been some cases where debt has simply been bought back from the issuer at a discounted value. Company B issued 100m bonds and then can't service 100m debt oh no so the price of that debt then collapses to 50m. Company B can service 50m of debt though, so providing they can seek additional financing which in this case no reason not to, they can just pay 50m for their debt. Suddenly they owe 50m instead of 100m.
Accordingly, a collapse in either treasuries, bonds can be considered as debt forgiveness and doesn't necessarily have an impact on the dollar. Further, all countries are currently trying to devalue including the US so if the dollar did look as though 50% of its value might be shed, the politicians and central banks of the world would collectively react against what is basically the US injecting deflation into their economies.
So I will be very surprised if much happens to the dollar over the next few years.
11. stillthinking said...
Forget the last line, I don't see a disordely collapse on monday.
12. mountain goat said...
"The temporary strengthening of the USD has certainly caused some irritation in the goldbug-camp, as we got a sell-signal on the short term gold chart on 7/28, which has been reversed today. "
Goldbugs?!!! More like Wall Street cannon fodder who run for the hills every time there is a "sell signal". No match for big bank super computers able to react in micro-seconds.
13. icarus said...
Everything's possible. Stagnation in the US could lead to a low dollar and low dollar IRs, resulting in a dollar carry trade, where dollars are taken across the exchanges into higher value assets - with no reduction in global willingness to accept payment in dollars for goods and credits. Then again....
14. mark said...
one thing i dont get is the currency markets, can someone explain in plain english for me..
does this mean $2 to the £1 type situation?
15. theboltonfury said...
S2R1, you said last year that Q1 of this year would be cautiously good, before we descend into meltdown from Q2 onwards. Now you are saying 2009 is fine and 2010 will the bad one.
Which is it?
16. icarus said...
theboltonfury - that was then, this is now.
17. 51ck-6-51x said...
Don't try to follow the path of the eternal doom mongers!
But seriously, it boils down to the perception of the likelihood of the U.S. deciding to inflate their way out of [ or out of how much of ] the burden of foreign held obligations ( IOUs ). The market is simply the sentiment of trust in the U.S. working off, rather than diluting, or even absconding from, their debts. I think without hard data it is an emotionally driven market, so I would say it's going to be volatile until some more concrete information becomes known.
18. theboltonfury said...
@16 - that is a weak excuse for being consistently wrong.
19. sold 2 rent 1 said...
theboltonfury,
The cautiously good phase could last until as late as November 2009.
I fear any stock market meltdown will be met with a wall of newly printed money in the autumn to save the day.
From December 2009 onwards we shall see things start to deteriorate fast with the main destruction phase coming between Jan and April 2010.
We are looking at perhaps 70,000 - 100,000 deaths to occur primary in the West during this 4 month period, with the peak week being in early March 2010.
Swine flu looks like the best candidate, but I am reading so many articles about forced vaccination programmes of untested vaccines.
Anyone heard of the disastrous swine flu US vaccination programme of 1976 where dozens were dropping dead and thousands were left with massive side affects and decidd to sue.
Big Pharma doesn't have any liabilities with its vaccines any more, as the government now picks up the compensation tab.
What a mad idea. Look what the banks did when they were given a go at a "liability free" business model.
You ain’t seen nothing yet
20. 51ck-6-51x said...
mark said, "one thing i dont get ..."
- Weak currency has low purchasing power, hence you get more of it for another currency which has not become even weaker. Hence if the $ became weaker than the £ one £ would buy you more $.
So, yes more $ to the £ is the conclusion of a weaker $, given the £ does not deteriorate too.
21. icarus said...
@18 - exactly
22. sold 2 rent 1 said...
The US M3 chart is the key indicator here.
We are currenlty collapsing down to zero percent as we did in the late 1960s
October to December 2009 map to the period 1970-1974 where M3 exploded to crazy highs.
This is where the bailouts could enter into a new madness phase
23. flashman said...
51Ck: "I would say it's going to be volatile until some more concrete information becomes known"
That's not how it works. A 'hard data' nirvana never arrives. When the concrete data you've been waiting for finally arrives, it will be accompanied by a new set of ponderables.
"The market is simply the sentiment of trust in the U.S. working off, rather than diluting, or even absconding from, their debts"
It is way more complicated than that. At any one time, the market contains all available information. Not just sentiment. Also, you are inferring that the Dollars future path is solely dictated by how the US behaves towards its debts. In fact, it depends on every aspect of the US's performance and every aspect of every other country's performance.
24. quiet guy said...
Hi S2R1,
A little while back, I posted this on the forums but it was ignored:
http://www.summit.co.za/video/face2face/20090710 (10 minutes)
There is also a transcript:
http://transcripts.businessday.co.za/cgi-bin/transcripts/t-showtranscript.pl?1247433444
Jim Sinclair seems to be interested Martin Armstrong's theories and made a remarkably specific prediction in the interview:
"I’m going to say today - which I haven’t said publicly before - I believe that 4 to 7 November is around 120 days from now we will probably have reached a situation in which confidence in the US currency is brought into serious question. There are very big challenges coming up and the money that’s been put in the system - the $12trillion that’s gone into the US so far not including anywhere else - even today you can see on the wire services where AIG is concerned that’s done nothing whatsoever."
You know I'm not interested in Calleman's stuff but wondered if you've come across Sinclair or have any ideas why he fingered 4 to 7 November so specifically?
25. bellwether said...
S2R1, I see you have not changed, relishing doomsday and then simply moving out your predictions when they don't come true.
The $ can only collapse as a byproduct of the collpase of all currencies and kind of the end of the world.
Any decline in the $ at present is a sign of optimism rather than despair, although premature optimism I suspect.
Are the US destroying the dollar through over consumption, under production and obsessive credit exapansion. Of course they are, but it is a decline that will play out over decades not weeks, and as a function of the US economy losing share of world economy.
and currency collapse is kind of the end of global trade.
ie when you talk about $ collapse you are talking about currency collapse a
26. bellwether said...
apolgies all the last 2 lines shouldn't be there, need to edit my posts more carefully
27. mountain goat said...
S2R1 - glad you posting again.
Anyone care to comment on how the $ price may be effected by the $200 billion in treasuries auctions sold last week? The small surprise from last week seems to be that long dated treasuries (7yr and 10yr) did better than expected whereas short term 2y had reduced demand.
Bellwether - agreed - "Any decline in the $ at present is a sign of optimism rather than despair, although premature optimism I suspect. "
28. sold 2 rent 1 said...
For those interested I have one more model I have added to my collection; Terence McKenna’s Novelty Theory.
Calleman spent a large part of his time arguing with the rest of the 2012 brigade about the END DATE. Basically it was his end date of 28 Oct 2011 versus the majority 2012ers of 21 Dec 2012.
As far as I can work out both will be wrong in the end date but that is not the point. These models work whilst the majority disagree with them. When the evidence is overpowering that they work, they will break down and become useless. So the end date is not important.
Terence McKenna developed Timewave zero, also known as Novelty Theory, is a pseudoscientific theory that purports to calculate the ebb and flow of "novelty" in the universe as an inherent quality of time.
He model can be seen here www.timewave2012.com – click “launch timewave” for the java app.
The java application clearly identifies late Oct 2009 as a low point as also is the period in early March 2010. This corresponds to my above posting
McKenna’s model seems to map gold too but NOT in relation to price like in Calleman’s model. In the java app the period between Feb 2010 and Feb 2011 should be one where the gold price is relatively high and this peiod maps to the period 1825-1900; which is when the 3 gold rushes of 1829, 1849 and 1896 took place.
If McKenna’s model is correct then we should see 3 distinct gold rushes during that year to Feb 2011.
29. techieman said...
Well b/wether i welcome old S2R1 back. Always provocative and thought provoking. I see we have broken the range in cable to the upside. It now Its looking to me like a quick move up to around 1.73 - maybe a bit more and that will - IMO - end the £ move against the greenback. Rather than this being the middle of a dollar collapse (it might start to look like one though because i think it will go up there quite quickly).
Nice call on the financials in the stock markets b/wether by the way - are you still long?
30. 51ck-6-51x said...
theboltonfury
- S2R1 may have predicted the underlying problems ( or highlighted their existence ) but maybe did not foresee the power of the states ( that lower case, not the U.S. only ) to prop up their markets.
S2R1
- Avoid any vaccine you can, would be the advice of a good friend of mine who studied Biochemistry at Imperial College and has worked on drug company press and "research" for years, although he does admit he is no expert at viral networks, prediction etc. There appeared to have been talk of vaccinations prior to virus isolation ( WHO said vaccines would be necessary pretty early on - I find it hard to believe the experts would say that the virus was unstoppable and tout the need for vaccines in the same breath! ) - that in itself should make us stop and think carefully. The drugs companies have been vying for the action ( of course ). The sense of urgency implies the distinct possibility for the removal of certain pretty sensible testing & safety checks.
However, unfortunately much of the information about this is, as must be expected in either case, is to be found at sites which seem to consistently report bogus material, fringe interest material, over-exaggerated tripe and unprovable conspiracies ( at least within a reasonable time frame ) - sott.net; cryptogon.com; etc so it's always worth checking the sources and attempting to dig for oneself...
31. icarus said...
@22 - US M3 isn't growing, total US borrowing is falling (fall iin private borrowing more than offsetting rise in government borrowing). To some this would suggest that, for the time being at least, the problem of financing the deficit is contained.
32. theboltonfury said...
End date. What end date? You told me on another thread that I don't need to top myself as everything is lovely with water cars and free energy.
33. 51ck-6-51x said...
flash
- My post was opinion, sorry if that was not explicit.
- I said nothing of a nirvana, of course there will always been incomplete information, that is the nature of a market.
I meant that when the market understands the situation better the volatility will subside, and that currently the lack of information is much higher than the norm ( or at least people's opinions of the availability of reliable information ) and I stick to that, you are welcome to your own opinion. So, no, I am not implying that USD's path is going to forever be driven by sentiment! I am no fool, I only failed to post perfectly coherently, sorry again.
34. techieman said...
Icarus - M3 falling - fall iin private borrowing more than offsetting rise in government borrowing EXACTLY. Debt default or liquidation or both. And isnt the US savings rate starting to rocket? The consumer is retrenching. The question what happens next?
35. bellwether said...
Sorry but it just seems like complete mumbo jumbo to me, albeit that S2R1 seems like a nice guy.
Long about 30% in the US of which about 20% is financials, so yes still long. Will not sell these stocks in case I find that I'm wrong and have been too bearish.
That said cannot bring myself to invest anymore when the structural issues seem to be being swept under the carpet, and in many cases not even understood. We reached a limit of growth by consumption/credit expansion, in fact we went way beyond a point that was healthy and ultimately we broke on the lack of feasibilty but I don't see any learning from this, just a determination to get the same party started again. The world ponzi is bandied about but there is a sense of that, especially here in the UK.
Common sense and nothing else tells me its just not possible.
36. sold 2 rent 1 said...
quiet guy,
"I believe that 4 to 7 November is around 120 days from now we will probably have reached a situation in which confidence in the US currency is brought into serious question"
On Calleman's model 24 October 2009 maps to 15 Aug 1971 which is when the US came off the gold standard. So I can see where he is coming from
8 July was a low for gold and he calculates 120 days from that is a critical point.
If you follow www.fractalgoldreport.com then you will see every 86 trading days has a big turning point for gold.
7 Nov is 86 trading days from 8 July.
86 is Armstrong's number - 8.6 years - 8.6 months - 86 trading days etc
37. sold 2 rent 1 said...
theboltonfury,
"End date. What end date?"
The date at which the consciousness singularity is reached.
It will also be a start date - but for what is a good question?????
38. sold 2 rent 1 said...
51ck-6-51x,
Glad to see other people are concerned about the swine flu vaccine
Ten Things You're Not Supposed to Know about the Swine Flu Vaccine
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=11161
39. mountain goat said...
Scaremongering about vaccines before they are released and therefore no evidence available is irresponsible. Similar scaremongering about the MMR vaccine resulted in a drop in vaccination for measles so that we now have this potentially fatal child disease making a come back:
The number of cases of measles rose by more than a third last year, to reach the highest total since records for the illness began.
There were 1,348 cases in England and Wales in 2008, a 36 per cent increase on the previous year.
Half of the cases (662) of the potentially fatal disease occurred in London, where the MMR vaccination rates are lowest, the Health Protection Agency (HPA), which published the figures, said. It was a record number of measles cases in the capital. Records have been kept since 1995.
Independent Feb 2009
40. 51ck-6-51x said...
S2R1
- Hmm, pretty much in alignment...
#3 - I've taken the jab 4 times... first two I got mildly ill in the following fortnight, second two I did not get flu even though I spent time with my father and mother who did one of those times. I know this does not stop the snake oil argument whatsoever. Another friend is almost certain that the 80-20 rule [ well from his experience more like 99.9-0.1 ] applies to illness with respect to belief ( i.e. if you believe you'll get ill you will. ) - but he is at the extreme, one of those people that never seems to get ill ( apart from his youth in Kenya when he contracted one of the less severe malarial strains and had a few repeats ). Hard to really conclude about this point IMO - I do hope he goes all the way ( he is currently studying Osteopathy ). When he had a cold earlier this year, I taunted him, and he was not very receptive ;p but he does not deny the existence of the cause, just the method of receipt of the effect.
# 5 should be #2!!! ( or maybe even #1 ) zero liability is not encouraging to the end consumer of a monopolies product ( and this will be, as are the majority of vaccines, especially if you use the NHS ).
#6 Cannot comment on this, but the idea is floating around it seems... shame I sit in an office all day! Maybe I should eat more fish. Maybe this is what the ancients used gold for... have you read Beelzebub's Tales To His Grandson?
#7 is incorrect IMO, there is no reason to assume a working vaccine would stop you carrying the virus; I believe antibodies are generally given the upper hand by a vaccine, but we do not necessarily kill every alien entrant that causes the disease prior to it's onward journey when we are resistant.
Heh, a national lottery... maybe it is exactly that!!
41. 51ck-6-51x said...
MG
- No to scaremongering indeed.
HOWEVER - testing drugs is pretty essential if they are to be forced onto the masses,
as is liability.
The whole MMR thing was mostly due to media hype. Dr Wakefield only showed correlation not causation, and his research has largely been verified. His report was that for a minority of subjects there was a significant correlation between the vaccine and autism. There seem to be forces at play with respect to the blind acceptance of vaccines. The media hype may well have been engineered for the very purpose of this kind of future debate! Think about it.
42. sold 2 rent 1 said...
mountain goat,
There are still scientists who are arguing against the "all clear" on the MMR jab. Just as there are scientists who say global warming is NOT CO2 related. And there has been a dozen or so medical professionals who doubt Dr David Kelly's suicide.
Just because the mainstream press don't report it, it doesn't mean all the professionals in that field agree with government propaganda.
And just because there is a huge jump in measles, it does not mean we should all give our kids the MMR jab.
Our 2 young kids have had the single measles jab as the mumps and rubella are not required at this time and certainly not together
43. sold 2 rent 1 said...
BTW, I've got my colloidal silver stockpiled for the autumn/winter.
When the truth finally breaks about how this simple drug with zero side affects kills at least 650 pathogens then the manufacturers will sell out in days.
Silver will spike to 3 digit mania levels, and then crash as colloidal silver only needs 10 parts per million to work effectively
44. shipbuilder said...
http://www.badscience.net/
45. mountain goat said...
51ck-6-51x & S2R1 glad you are not advocating that vaccines are bad in principle. Flu vaccines have been around for years. So full blown testing taking years seems unnecessary don't you think? Swine flu is just that, flu. Vaccination being "forced on the masses" is interesting because with a pandemic if I don't have a vaccination it is not only my own life I am taking responsibility for. If I catch the disease I will no double infect many others. I have only had a single flu vaccine many decades ago, but if this swine flu turns out to be very nasty then I feel I will have a responsibility to have a jab if that is the decision of expert epidemiologists. Modern humans as a species are sitting targets for pandemics; explosive population growth from a small gene pool a million years ago, many physical social interactions, widely travelled etc. Big pharma are not giant vampire squid but are important for their capacity to act swiftly to do the necessary development and production to counter pandemics. Just like agriculture they are one of the few things really worth a bailout if I was in charge...
46. theboltonfury said...
S2R1, now you're being interesting!
I also am getting grief about my sons upcoming MMR. SHe wants single jabs. Are you saying that you can get the Measles on on it's own and stagger the rest?
Who's to say though that the measles jab isn't as potentially linked as the MMR. For my mind the MMR jab must be the most analysed of all time and thus the safest!?
47. 51ck-6-51x said...
S2R1
- Same friend ( biochem student from one of the best schools & unhappily employed in the pharma industry ) advocates colloidal silver.
I don't see it causing a huge spike as production though ( maybe a tiny spike - like intra-day, but the arbitrage opportunity would not take long to close )
MG - I agree we cannot take the decision lightly, however I also don't think that you can assert that taking the vaccine is going to stop you infecting others ( or not!! ) without some very specific research. As I said earlier it is not necessary that all virus entities are killed before they continue on. Furthermore I ( and probably you ) do not know the period over which one is infectious - it could be before your antibodies have much of a chance at attacking ( generally a successful property for a virus ) but equally well could not be until you are bed ridden ( in which case not taking the vaccine would make you less likely to infect so long as you do not have to leave your residence ). The main thing is we should discuss and think about this, and preferably network with individuals who understand more than we do.
48. quiet guy said...
S2R1,
Thanks for taking the time to look at my question.
49. sold 2 rent 1 said...
mountain goat,
"Big pharma are not giant vampire squid but are important for their capacity to act swiftly to do the necessary development and production to counter pandemics"
Blimey MG, I thought you were ahead of the game - but clearly not.
Science and capitalism have a tricky relationship. They work well provding the science allows a profit. Things get a bit messed up when science produces amazing things very cheaply and that cannot be patented.
Colloidal silver (in 2010) IMHO will be the first major revolution that will destroy corporations as we know them. The next will be HEMP, followed by free energy in 2011.
50. sold 2 rent 1 said...
bolton,
Read The Truth About Vaccines by Richard Halvorsen
1. Don't overload a child's immune system with too many vaccinations at once. Separate vaccinations make sense.
2. Also some vaccinations are just not required as the disease is not life threatening (eg. Mumps or Chicken Pox.)
3. Some vaccinations may be advisable, like rubella, but only if you are a girl and you can wait until they are much older.
51. sold 2 rent 1 said...
shipbuilder,
Bad Science eh!!!!
Read Big Pharma, Bad Science
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020805/newman20020725
In June 2002, the New England Journal of Medicine, one of the most respected medical journals, made a startling announcement. The editors declared that they were dropping their policy stipulating that authors of review articles of medical studies could not have financial ties to drug companies whose medicines were being analyzed.
The reason? The journal could no longer find enough independent experts. Drug company gifts and "consulting fees" are so pervasive that in any given field, you cannot find an expert who has not been paid off in some way by the industry. So the journal settled for a new standard: Their reviewers can have received no more than $10,000 from companies whose work they judge. Isn't that comforting?
52. sold 2 rent 1 said...
51ck-6-51x,
My problem with colloidal silver is in finding suppliers who deliver the quality with their product
I have found 3 that maybe I can trust:
http://www.americanbiotechlabs.com/ (ABL)
These guys have a US patent from 2006 which claims amazing trials in West Africa where they were curing HIV and malaria.
ABL makes their product for other third party brands too. ABL make "The New silver Solution" - it can be bought here
http://www.easymlm.co.uk/nss/nss.html
16oz (120 Day Supply): £40 + £5 S&H
I have also bought from http://www.comsci.org.uk/
This guy recommends a nebulizer to administer the colloidal silver if you get swine flu symptoms
And lastly I have bought from
http://www.uk-cs.co.uk/
This guy recommends you get 15-30 ml (1-2 table spoons daily if you get flu symptoms). Normal preventative dose is 1 teaspoon daily. Swill solution in mouth for 5 minutes before swallowing. Take on an empty stomach 30 minutes before eating
The last 2 both sell a spray which is good for spraying up your nose to attack the virus there.
Does your friend use any of these products?
53. sold 2 rent 1 said...
51ck-6-51x,
I have a proposal for your biochem friend.
Does he/she want to do some independent tests on the different colloidal silver products out their.
I have a website that we can put the results on and the ability to drive traffic to it - being an IT guru.
Money is not my driver here - but this knowledge will be important once things start to break down in winter 2010.
Besides if colloidal silver is as good as the claims then most pharma business models are gonna be destroyed and your friend could be out of a job.
Let me know
54. p. doff said...
Jeez!
He's back.
55. mountain goat said...
S2R1 @49 yes I was being a bit provocative about big pharma who currently seem to make their profit from Viagra and useless drug pushing. You and 51ck-6-51x were dissing big pharma in some earlier comments and it is popularist to see them as fat cats. But I was being a bit serious too that they do represent a valuable resource for humanity if we are faced with a bad pandemic. Something like bubonic plague resistant to antibiotics. If the world's economy goes through a very bad collapse I do think they are worth saving, unlike blood sucking investment banks. Actually I agree that silver has good potential for certain medical applications too, but probably is not the cure-all you may believe.
Also wanted to mention that although people have said your predictions were wrong, you were quite right about inflation outlook that seems to be driving the markets up at the moment.
56. 51ck-6-51x said...
S2R1 - I shall ask him. He is getting out of the industry - currently spending his weekends studying natural medicine.
57. mountain goat said...
antiseptic silver - Forbes
58. sold 2 rent 1 said...
MG,
Colloidal silver mania - March 2010