Thursday, May 21, 2009

Return to mad lending

Daily Mail: Home help from mum and dad thanks to new account

Britain's biggest bank has waded into the battle for first-time buyers with a mortgage that allows them to tap into their parents' savings.
Lloyds TSB's Lend A Hand mortgage offers first-time buyers a 95 per cent loan to value mortgage at an attractive rate of 4.39 per cent.
The idea is that the buyer and their parents, grandparents or friends, who are keen to help out, pool their resources to provide a 25 per cent deposit, bringing the interest rate down significantly.
But rather than give the buyer the cash, parents can retain control of the money by locking it away in a savings account that has a legal charge on it, until the mortgage has moved from 95 per cent LTV to 90 per cent LTV. Lloyds will have a hold on the money until the property owner has 10 per cent inn equity.

Posted by little professor @ 11:35 AM (1620 views) Add Comment

16 Comments

1. george monsoon said...

How would this ever work in a market where prices are falling?

Thursday, May 21, 2009 11:42AM Report Comment
 

2. 51ck-6-51x said...

Only that the part of mad lender is now being pushed onto friends & family.

Thursday, May 21, 2009 11:42AM Report Comment
 

3. little professor said...

George - How would this ever work in a market where prices are falling?

But house prices only ever go up, innit? You can't lose with bricks and mortar, in a couple of years time property prices will be much higher due to all that pent up demand and that.

Thursday, May 21, 2009 11:46AM Report Comment
 

4. jack c said...

Guy's dont get too hung up on this one - as someone who knows LTSB very well, this IMO is a gimmick to shine the spotlight on those with savings (including those parents with savings at other institutions) and subsequently sell them some of their more profitable products.

In any event I have it on good authority the that funding availability is drying up quickly (particularly with Santander group)

Thursday, May 21, 2009 11:58AM Report Comment
 

5. mark wadsworth said...

Fine scam.

Parents lend money to Lloyds at 3.5% (net of tax = 2.8%), Lloyds then lends to borrower at 4.35%. The operation is more or less risk-free from the bank's point of view.

What's not to like? It'll make for interesting conversations round the Xmas table when parents inform borrower that half their savings have been taken away to cover nequity.

Thursday, May 21, 2009 11:58AM Report Comment
 

6. denzil said...

Sounds more like an insurance scheme for lenders to protect themselves against falling house prices and also to shore up their balance sheets.

Thursday, May 21, 2009 12:23PM Report Comment
 

7. a saver said...

Great scam indeed mw. And of course the point that house prices are still so silly that FTBs can't afford them without turning to friends and family, or the banks being silly enough to lend huge LTVs, is ignored.

Thursday, May 21, 2009 12:26PM Report Comment
 

8. alan said...

Mortgage lending is down. Money is drying up. Soon the NuLab government will find out overseas countries won't fund its debt spree.

I personally think this is just an advertisment for LTSB. Sooner or later ministers will claim to have "cracked the mortgage problem" after half a dozen people take up the scheme.

I know several people who want to trade up slightly because of job moves. The banks/building societies are very cagey about lending!

Thursday, May 21, 2009 12:34PM Report Comment
 

9. Ingermany said...

The lender is effectively taking 4 years of interest payments up front and looking after it (in the same way a kidnapper looks after a hostage). If the borrower misses some payments, or loses his job, the bank just take the arrears from the parental account. No need for courts, or to worry about new rules on avoiding repossession. It's a risk free propect for the bank. I think I might buy some bank shares.

Thursday, May 21, 2009 12:39PM Report Comment
 

10. Tom said...

"Lloyds TSB will today unveil the Lend A Hand mortgage, where up to £20,000 of savings held by a relative or friend can, in effect, be used to boost the buyer's deposit."
This reads to me like a maximum of £20000 can be used to "boost the deposit". As they have to put down 20%, this allows the borrower to buy a £100000 property. Not many of those round my way....

Thursday, May 21, 2009 12:40PM Report Comment
 

11. stillthinking said...

This does have an impact on credit creation though, because the banks were prepared to create the full amount required for the loan previously. Now they are not. So the banks are window dressing a reduction in lending, while maintaining the facade of finance being available for current prices.
One way or another there is less lending and as gm@1 says, this doesn't work because in itself it pushes house prices down (reduction in aggregate lending). So they have announced a house price supportive scheme which is destructive of house prices.
This is a balance sheet exercise to raise "capital reserves" by locking up deposits. Our deflationary problems are from a collapse in lending, which has come from a collapse in house prices, -not- the collapse in house prices itself. In so far that this is a reduction in lending, it is hard to see where the economic value is.

Thursday, May 21, 2009 12:59PM Report Comment
 

12. crunchy said...

Britain's biggest bank has waded into the battle for first-time buyers with a mortgage that allows them to tap into their parents' savings. Lloyds TSB's Lend A Hand mortgage offers first-time buyers a 95 per cent loan to value mortgage at an attractive rate of 4.39 per cent. The idea is that the buyer and their parents, grandparents or friends, who are keen to help out, pool their resources to provide a 25 per cent deposit,

That's not a 95% mortgage. More crap!

Thursday, May 21, 2009 01:55PM Report Comment
 

13. crunchy said...

Daily Mail: Home help from mum and dad thanks to new account

Crunchy Mail: Home help which you shouldn't need no thanks to a con worthy account.

Thursday, May 21, 2009 03:19PM Report Comment
 

14. timmy t said...

So Lloyds can PAY the government to insure against bad mortgages, or CHARGE borrowers' families to do the same.... Think I know which one of those I'd opt for too.
Why don't they go the whole hog and lend 100% LTV at 5% interest (Obviously just so long as the equivalent savings are tucked away paying 2%...). Tw@ts

Thursday, May 21, 2009 03:22PM Report Comment
 

15. montesquieu said...

And in today's edition of 'You and Yours', a mortgage misselling scandal that has fleeced the pockets of well to do middle Englanders and caused major strife within families .... back in 2009 blah blah di blah

Thursday, May 21, 2009 04:07PM Report Comment
 

16. braindeed said...

Seems no-one has commented on the Mail site - there's honest vox pop for you......chortle.

Thursday, May 21, 2009 05:09PM Report Comment
 

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