Friday, May 22, 2009
Recovereh in doubt
Wall Street Journal: S&P Warning Sparks Rattle of Britain
Just when you thought it was safe to get back in the U.K. water ...
The pound has soared more than 15% against the dollar in recent weeks on signs of returning economic confidence. But that rally stopped on Thursday, when Standard & Poor's threatened to downgrade the U.K.'s coveted AAA rating, putting the country on negative outlook for the first time ever. It was a reminder that the risks to the pound and U.K. government bonds remain immense.
U.K. public finances are in a dire state. The government's April budget combined optimistic forecasts with a refusal to spell out how the deficit might be controlled. Government forecasts conveniently show debt peaking at 79% of gross domestic product, just under the 80% level that would usually trigger a downgrade. S&P do not agree.
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1. another alan said...
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3. little professor said...
Not a subscriber, but the full text is available if you follow the link to the article from Google.
4. little professor said...
5. japanese uncle said...
My hunch tells that there will be another series of run on the GBP sooner rather than later, which should trigger IR hike, as I can see only CHAOS on the menu. Given another 30% HP drop (a very very conservative scenario), what would happen to the banks' balance sheet and to this economy as a whole? So called experts are none short of ostriches with their heads in the sand, just trying not to think about the most unavoidable. Jobless population is likely to reach 3.5 million or even 4 million. And the government is proven to be totally incapable of handling the situation, too busy making fraudulent expense claims. Pathetic!
6. another alan said...
Cheers LP, and Japanese Uncle for sharing your valuable opinion. Interesting times.
7. bellwether said...
It is all timeframes however, we might wait months or more £ to crater.
Thinking the pound looks likely to remain strongish in the near terms and totally shrugged off the S+P and IMF statements this week, despite already looking overbought against the $ and despite having risen in more or less in a straightline against the $ since I think 22/4. It just shows I guess that momentum in markets is what really matters.
Even my "judicious" short against sterling this morning (thinking it is bound to retrace a bit) having started well is begining to look dicey.
8. Nayan said...
before you get too carried away, the UK debt /GDP ratio isnt out of place compared with that of germany, France or the US. If we get downgraded guess what - we wont be the only ones. And as for the rating agencies being the paragon of fiscal commen sense - remember these were the people who put AAA ratings on those nasty CDO-squared nightmares.
Sometimes you have to use your common sense, and not rely on rating agencies to do it for you.
9. refusetobuy said...
Our debt is enormous (+100% of GDP) if you include off balance sheet items like PFI, Network rail, pensions etc.
Anyone know how Germany/France etc. compare if they add on their off balance sheet items?
10. stillthinking said...
or if you include personal debt. but lest we forget, sterling already collapsed 25%. we are talking about something that has already happened. for it to fall dramatically further then we would be getting up to 50% devaluation from 2007.
which does seem a bit harsh.