Friday, May 22, 2009

Goldman Sachs tempers expectations of an imminent recovery in the UK housing market

The Telegraph: Housing market 'still has 10pc to fall'

In a comprehensive note on the housebuilding sector, the investment bank said it would be year before house prices found the bottom of the market in the second quarter of 2010.
Shares in house builders have rallied so far in 2009 as the likes of as Taylor Wimpey and Persimmon completed key refinancing packages and reported improved visitor levels and sales volumes compared to the depths of the financial crisis last Autumn.
However, Goldman analysts warned that, although sales volumes could rise by 12pc next year, prices will remain under pressure because of rising unemployment and the fact that property values are still well above the historical average of affordability of 3.8 times salary.

Posted by devo @ 10:16 PM (1523 views) Add Comment

17 Comments

1. gone-to-colombia said...

Dream on

Friday, May 22, 2009 10:24PM Report Comment
 

2. inflation is eating my savings said...

Is one supposed to bet with Goldmans or against them?
I am rather fond of the idea that the best time to buy is when nobody cares anymore- so presumably that will reflect traffic here?
Or is the addictive psychology thing going on with blogs damaging to this age-old dogma?

Friday, May 22, 2009 11:04PM Report Comment
 

3. devo said...

"Is one supposed to bet with Goldmans or against them?"

It's an open secret that Goldman Sachs is currently propping up global markets. I don't know how long this will continue.

Friday, May 22, 2009 11:15PM Report Comment
 

4. inflation is eating my savings said...

Why would they do that?

Friday, May 22, 2009 11:31PM Report Comment
 

5. devo said...

"Why would they do that?"

Forgive my naiveteh, but is that a rhetorical question?

Friday, May 22, 2009 11:33PM Report Comment
 

6. devo said...

Late night trivia quiz:

1.Incumbent US Treasury Secretary ,Tim Geithner, was previously an employee of:

a) Goldman Sachs
b) none of the above

2. The previous US Treasury Secretary, Hank Paulson, was previously an employee of:

a) Goldman Sachs
b) none of the above

Friday, May 22, 2009 11:45PM Report Comment
 

7. crunchy said...

4. Because without volitility you can't make money. One should always trade with Goldman, because market leaders are always right and that's why they are still around.

To do that one has to be nimble and understand that Goldman only start trades and finish them. The bit in the middle is for the lame.

These are the investors that keep Goldmans and the like rich. Why would they do that. rhetorical?

Friday, May 22, 2009 11:55PM Report Comment
 

8. devo said...

"To do that one has to be nimble"

Indeed, crunchy. You speak as a gambler.

What about the investors?

Saturday, May 23, 2009 12:01AM Report Comment
 

9. crunchy said...

To be an investor involves dedication and self reliance. Nobody cares more for your money than the person trying to get it off you. lol

I don't speak as a gambler. I speak as a professional. Gamblers run out of luck very quickly, but it is a good starting point before the

learning process takes the fun out of it all.

Saturday, May 23, 2009 12:12AM Report Comment
 

10. devo said...

"I don't speak as a gambler. I speak as a professional."

Tautologous.

Saturday, May 23, 2009 12:17AM Report Comment
 

11. inflation is eating my savings said...

not rhetorical- i was wondering if a gun was being held to their heads- i clearly am naive. thx for the insight from you both.

Saturday, May 23, 2009 12:25AM Report Comment
 

12. crunchy said...

Ok, I'm a gambler.

It sounds much racier. The difference is I will not end up like James Dean.

Saturday, May 23, 2009 12:28AM Report Comment
 

13. crunchy said...

11.... I call it the greed gun.

People have the choice to pull the trigger.

Nobody is making them do it.

Saturday, May 23, 2009 12:37AM Report Comment
 

14. crunchy said...

10. devo

I thought along those lines once. I traded for quiet a while blowing out accounts thinking that this is all BS and the only guys making

money were the ones selling courses. Honestly, there is a big difference between blowing accounts and doubling them.

That is what makes one a professional, however I can't blame people for not seeing a difference.

Saturday, May 23, 2009 12:48AM Report Comment
 

15. Dhg said...

These analysts and economists just do not live in the real world.
They should try talking to Estate Agents, who have priced up, since 2007.

I will not be buying my first house until they return to 1999 prices. The real indicator of the true price of a house, will be the sold price of a repossession, at auction.

A return to 1999 prices is completely realistic. The only question is when?

Saturday, May 23, 2009 11:24AM Report Comment
 

16. mark wadsworth said...

@ Devo comment 6, exactly - that is why they are now called 'Government Sachs'.

And they are not propping up anything - they are being subsidised and bailed out as much as anybody else, just through the back door.

Saturday, May 23, 2009 02:46PM Report Comment
 

17. crunchy said...

Putting on the agony, putting on the style.

That's what all the bank folks are doing all the while.

propping up is what it's all about mark, but the prop stops with the banks.

There ain't no more money for the suckers they call yanks.

Putting on the agony, putting on the style,

That's what all the bank folks are doing with a smile.

Saturday, May 23, 2009 06:11PM Report Comment
 

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