Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008

Now they say it took everyone by surprise

Telegraph: Definitive proof that the Bank of England saw the financial crisis coming

Looking back in our archives I came across a rather important article. It dates from 2006, when the credit crisis was a mere apple in the financial system's eye and the City was enjoying one of its biggest booms in history. It reports on the BoE's Financial Stability Report, and shows that the Bank of England knew precisely what risk was posed by the dangerous build-up of debt which was brewing in the economy.
As we reported that day, "The City could face a financial meltdown if the debt bubble bursts. The Bank is issuing a stark warning about the potential damage a credit crunch and a collapse in asset prices could cause to the economy and financial system.

Posted by little professor @ 02:33 PM (1119 views) Add Comment

32 Comments

1. little professor said...

Original 2006 report here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/2943149/'City-faces-meltdown-if-debt-crisis-hits'.html

The Bank of England report they are referring to is here (p28-30):
http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/publications/fsr/2006/index.htm
Fascinating reading

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 02:34PM Report Comment
 

2. sneaker said...

Fingerprints are everywhere - the BoE didn't just see it coming, the MPC knew a long time ago that it was making things worse for another day

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/exgovernor-george-says-bank-deliberately-fuelled-consumer-boom-441160.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-443540/Bank-England-deliberately-fostered-person-debt-avert-recession.html

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 02:42PM Report Comment
 

3. paul said...

At last the mainstream media is starting to ask questions about the Bank of England's role in the housing boom and bust.

The warning signs were everywhere - this is why everyone picked up on the risk from the housing bubble before the Bank of England, FSA or the government - they were all far too engrossed in aptting themselves on the back and swilling the draff from all the excess money it appeared to create.

Some serious and probing questions should be asked of how these institutions (especially the BoE) have failed us.

Nadeem Wayalat on Market Oracle has pointed out that the BoE were categorically not targeting inflation over the last five years. If targeting inflation was the Bank of England's remit, then why has it only been within their 1-3% target range in 5 of the last 60 months!!! That's an APPALLING success rate.

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 03:19PM Report Comment
 

4. crunchy said...

Why indeed create such a destructive economic climate?

I guess we will have to wait to find out.

There must be a good reason for this surely, as America has done exactly the same.

2009 may enlighten. If delusion does not blind us!

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 03:36PM Report Comment
 

5. crunchy said...

For newbies http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ji_G0MqAqq8&NR=1

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 03:46PM Report Comment
 

6. paul said...

Nice find there sneaker. From the article.

"(Lord George) also advised caution over predictions of a collapse in the housing market - pointing out that experts were saying one was about to happen when he left office. "We are still waiting for it," he said."

Bank of England 'deliberately fostered person debt’ to avert recession

Is there any way the state can claw back some of Lord George's pension in the same way that the FSA is proposing a curb on traders' bonuses?

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 03:58PM Report Comment
 

7. plato said...

little professor

You are quite rightly opening up a can of worms here. This stinks! to say the least (your own words I believe - some time time ago).

crunchy

Not so much delusion as disbelief and confidence in justice.

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 04:34PM Report Comment
 

8. crunchy said...

7. plato

Tell me you are joking. JUSTICE!

It's time to start seeing things for exactly what they are. No mercy!

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 05:39PM Report Comment
 

9. crunchy said...

Ok are we in cohesion with the idea of orchestrated boom and bust, if so WHY?

Any suggestions would be welcome as far as I am concerned.

I am all ears.

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 06:54PM Report Comment
 

10. plato said...

crunchy

In the context of the sentence - lack of justice....... As it happens people are pointing out anomalies such as this post with sound proof through their research. A logical approach that will gradually lead to causes and truth. I sense an air of urgency in your tone but as with all things of substance, this will not materialise overnight. Patience will avoid becoming a patient.

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 07:16PM Report Comment
 

11. crunchy said...

10. plato

Anomalies really? Oh well.

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 07:21PM Report Comment
 

12. japanese uncle said...

"The City could face a financial meltdown if the debt bubble bursts"

Wrong conjunction! There is no if, but when, as far as any bubble is concerned and the author of this comment was unquestionably aware of this. As I predicted two years ago, we are seeing one 'incompetence defense' after another these days.

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 07:31PM Report Comment
 

13. sneaker said...

@ 9. crunchy

I was sent this link earlier today. Probably the most far-out thing I've ever come across. And extremely hard to believe, accept or even stomach !!

http://www.illuminati-news.com/00363.html

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 07:35PM Report Comment
 

14. crunchy said...

13. sneaker

Dont have time to read this and look into it further, but thanks. It may tally with some other things I think they have in mind.

Tyranny. What's new?

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 07:49PM Report Comment
 

15. sneaker said...

@ 14. crunch

Exactly! The rich have always sought power and influence. And those in politics have always been near the money-men. It's as old as history, and older again.

I don't really have much preference for what label it has. Illuminati, New World Order, Masons, whatever - it's irrelevant. And frankly you very rapidly bump into the "lunatic fringe" when researching the facts behind world events. The only thing that's important is that, whether or not there is a "conspiracy", there is certainly an agenda - in fact many agendas - and we only get a filtered version of the real story through official channels.

I find none of this disturbing. It's always been that way. And most important of all the internet will be its undoing; HPC is just one part of that phenomenon. As eBay proved, people are basically good. So if there really is any ruling agenda or "conspiracy", it'll get found out and overturned. This force doesn't need any leader to make it happen and it doesn't need to be violent, as Gandhi taught us. It'll just happen of its own accord, because the people will never be oppressed for long. They always wake up.

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 07:55PM Report Comment
 

16. gardeniadotnet said...

@ 15. sneaker

I wish I'd said that.

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 09:06PM Report Comment
 

17. plato said...

Succinctly put sneaker.

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 09:19PM Report Comment
 

18. crunchy said...

17. plato

Agreed!

13. sneaker Amusing and funny read. Not convinced but thanks again.

You state "It'll just happen of its own accord, because the people will never be oppressed for long. They always wake up".

Let's hope it is that easy. I doubt it!

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 09:34PM Report Comment
 

19. crunchy said...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hxgarOVO078&NR=1

Ron Paul 1983. Yes a much younger man talking about the same type of thing as post number 5.

Yeah just sit back dont ask questions and it will look after itself. I doubt it!

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:09PM Report Comment
 

20. Hiccup said...

Coincidence that Deep impact is on the box. In six months we will all know what a mess our betters have got us into.

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 12:35AM Report Comment
 

21. crunchy said...

Over 8 trillion dollar Bailout and counting.
Try fining out where it has gone.
Patience will avoid becoming a patient. That's what Paulson said to congress I bet!

Good night.

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 12:36AM Report Comment
 

22. nopensionnohouse said...

Crunchy said “For newbies http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ji_G0MqAqq8&NR=1”

So, if Ron Paul had / has all the answers then why is he so unpopular with the main stream?

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 09:30AM Report Comment
 

23. crunchy said...

22. nopensionnohouse

Ron Paul has been misquoted and largely blacked out by mainstream media. He is the last person the elite wants. A peoples person.
Obama was backed heavily with Wall St money and if you look at the policys and the people that surround him there is little change from Bush. As usual, time will reveal.
Main stream Americans are just like main stream Brits nopensionnohouse.

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 01:26PM Report Comment
 

24. nopensionnohouse said...

23. crunchy

The way I understand it Obama hasn’t been particularly forthcoming with his policies yet and has even U turned on some of what he was campaigning on… as a result there has been a lot of speculation about what he is going to do. I don’t see how you can ask that!

Regardless, from what little we know at the time of writing I think he will be a massive change from Bush what ever his policies may turn out to be!

Certainly more green, alternative and sustainable for sure.

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 01:48PM Report Comment
 

25. Nopensionnohouse said...

I mean ask as in "to look at the policies..."

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 01:49PM Report Comment
 

26. crunchy said...

nopensionnohouse said...Certainly more green, alternative and sustainable for sure.

crunchy Carbon taxes you mean? Let's see.

All you need to do is look at what will continue to happen to the American Constitution that was set up to keep a check on tyrants taking over the counrty. If that's not good enough for you then there is little more I can say.

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 02:51PM Report Comment
 

27. nopensionnohouse said...

*Sigh*

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 03:31PM Report Comment
 

28. crunchy said...

26. nopensionnohouse said...*Sigh*

Save it for later!
Time reveals everything.

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 03:54PM Report Comment
 

29. nopensionnohouse said...

Yeah, happy new year. Catch you on the flip side.

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 03:54PM Report Comment
 

30. crunchy said...

Happy New year one and all.

Let's just be positive. : )

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 03:57PM Report Comment
 

31. crunchy said...

28. nopensionnohouse

Something for the flip side http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=J7SpA2Qe3FM&NR=1

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 05:58PM Report Comment
 

32. crunchy said...

Last one Bud http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ktIECyzf4YM&feature=related

Promise. lol

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 06:17PM Report Comment
 

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