Thursday, Nov 27, 2008
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Market Oracle: The Global Financial System is Coming to an End
Before this secular Bear Market is over, we are going to new lows in all indices, more than 3500 banks will close, unemployment will surge, there will be violence in the streets and people will kill you to get what you have. Every one of the 17 macro factors detailed in The Big Rollover is converging and coming to fruition. Sorry—but this is what we see in the future. Could we be wrong? Of course. No one has a crystal ball that can see beyond the hard right edge of the charts. No one can tell the future with complete accuracy. All we have are our many years of research and the fact that everyone has now begun to see, hear and feel the power of The Big Rollover.
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1. sold 2 rent 1 said...
More Quotes from the article
"With all of this doom and gloom, there is enormous hope. Addictions, if not stopped, end in only three ways: jails, institutions or death. We are now about to take off the beer goggles, get off the drugs, and deal with the consequences of years of reckless spending and self-indulgence. This is going to be a long and painful process of cleansing and detoxification. It won't feel good, and you will—at times—fight against it and long for the high of your addiction. Those who get sober and stay sober will find that life as we know it today has changed forever. !
"People will awaken to a higher level of purpose and meaning. They will find a new freedom and a new happiness. Values of integrity and honesty will be respected. Trust will return as we strip away the excesses and stand in the light of authenticity of our true selves. It will be a happier, more serene and simple way of being. In the end, after all the sound and fury, the gnashing of teeth and the depths of despair and hardship, those who survive will find that they have—at long last--- come home again."
2. Harrythefish said...
Cheer up chumps.
3. sold 2 rent 1 said...
I wonder if Dr. Janice Dorn, MD, PhD has read Calleman's books.
The "sixth day" mapping of the official end of the Korean War is this weekend.
So expect the bailouts to finally start working.
Things should continue to improve in stock markets from now on until late April 2009 (bar a blip at the end of January 2009 which maps to the Suez crisis in 1956)
The financial crisis will be declared over in April 2009 but the reality is that phase 1 will be over and phase 2 will be beginning (the western currency massive devaluation phase)
4. theboltonfury said...
I have very little debt and don't like the ideas of it
Does this mean I will be one of the saved ones?
Can I also have a job with the NWO? It seems secure with good bens
5. theboltonfury said...
so should I expect a recovery in the economy until next Spring?
6. sold 2 rent 1 said...
"People will awaken to a higher level of purpose and meaning"
Could this be Calleman's ETHICS emerging in November 2010 after western capitalism has failed
7. mountain goat said...
Lending has a long history of being considered unethical, usury etc.
8. montesquieu said...
More millenialist comedy.
9. sold 2 rent 1 said...
"so should I expect a recovery in the economy until next Spring?"
"Recovery" gives a false impression.
A better description is "the day of reckoning has been delayed" -
The "Sixth Night" starts in November 2009 and lasts 360 days. It resonates with the period 1972-1992.
This is where we will see the final destruction of POWER and a rise in ETHICS.
Be prepared for oil to go to $400 in spring 2010
10. planning4acrash said...
Blimey, I'd wondered where you were. S2R, the way that this could happen, if you are right, S2R, is that big government collapses entirely, a year after taking full responsibility for the crisis, once people wake up and refuse to pay taxes and invest in the ponzi schemes.
11. James said...
I repeat my offer - I bet you an ounce of gold it doesn't. Put your money where your mouth is.
Or actually, why not make it GBP10,000? Since you believe fiat currency will be worthless by then, this should be very easy for you to take up.
12. sold 2 rent 1 said...
P4AC,
I have been busy - I have moved to a village in the countryside to ride out the storm
2 young kids take up my time too.
Don't be surprised if GB calls an election in April/May 2009 as he knows this is the dead cat bounce.
Western capitalism could fall at the end of the sixth night (September-October 2010), just as communism fell at the end of the last sixth night 1989-1991
13. planning4acrash said...
Will they replace it with world government S2R? Or, do we have a defacto world government already, run out of NYC, which is being exposed and coming out into the open, and that it is about to fall?
14. notaneconomicsguru said...
Another quote, "In any case, the foxes are now guarding the chicken coop, and we are the chickens".
I think its actually more like "the loonies are now running the asylum and writing crazed ranting articles as their hobby".
15. plato said...
Read this a few days ago......... Love the bit about 'Addictions' stimulating thought about just how many addictions there are and how many of those are not considered addictions......... like mocking for one.
Like it s2r1 !..... You bring a breath of fresh air and your intentions are good,which matters most.
16. malct said...
12. notaneconomicsguru said...
Another quote, "In any case, the foxes are now guarding the chicken coop, and we are the chickens".
I think its actually more like "the loonies are now running the asylum and writing crazed ranting articles as their hobby".
Thursday, November 27, 2008 12:22PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
notaneconomicsguru - your post doesn't appear to make any sense at all, can you explain please?
17. goweresque said...
If I had read this a year ago, I would have dismissed it as the usual green ink brigade rantings. Now - well, I'm not so sure. So much has happened in the last 12-15 months, who can say what is too far 'out there' to be realistic? Remember there have been empires before that must have looked as though they would last forever, such as the Mayans, the Aztecs, the Greeks, the Romans, the Carthegenians and many more. Yet all that remains of them are ruins. I'm sure there were Romans who thought the good old days would return, even as the barbarian hordes were approaching. Who can say whether or not we are at a similar turning point in global history? We are part of one massive global financial empire now, and perhaps, just perhaps, it is on the brink of collapse. We would all do well to consider what that means, and how best to prepare ourselves if neccessary. After all, if it is not the end of the world as we know it, what will you have lost by making a few basic provisions?
18. mountain goat said...
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largess of the public treasury. From that time on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the results that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, [which is] always followed by a dictatorship ... The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependence; from dependency back again into bondage."
Sir Alex Fraser Tyler (1742-1813) Scottish jurist and professor at the University of Edinburgh from his book The Fall of a Republic, a study of the fall of the Athenian empire.
19. digdug said...
You guys worry too much, take a chill pill or 3 (non addictive ones only though) Ultimately we're all dead, this weird bit that fills the eternity of darkness on either side should just be enjoyed.. Conspiracy theorists simply have too much time on their hands and this time would be better spent relaxing...
20. drewster said...
What montesquieu says - this is ranting. I do however like the quote about the foxes guarding the chicken coop and we're the chickens. If the world survived 1929 (adsumus, ergo sumus) then it will survive this. The financial sector will emerge smaller, but it isn't "coming to an end".
21. planning4acrash said...
"the usual green ink brigade rantings" - Art students look odd because they wear clothes not pushed by the corporate stores, even though what they are wearing was status quo maybe just 5yrs ago.
Its the same with info. You talk in ways not provided by the mainstream media, and you appear kooky. When you say things like "green ink brigade" you exhibit conditioning by the programming of the mainstream media and government controlled schools. Like, school only teaches you about compound interest rates, so we take fiat money for granted and it sounds kooky to talk of specie, i.e. gold and silver, simply because it isn't discussed in corporate/government controlled info sources. Each of these have their own agenda, so, looking for truth, you must break free from that uncomfortableness of new information, and the difficult knowledge that you are lied to by previously trusted sources of information, that we pay for via taxation.
22. digdug said...
planning4acrash - you exhibit more conditioning than most. You cant even see that you are in a trance like state, simply re-inforceing your own sense of self. It does make me chuckle when people mention terms like "waking up" Your attitute clearly shows that you havnt even managed to let go of your own ego. Without that step you are snoozing like almost everyone else. But by all means carry own re-inforcing your own views as "truth" whether they are or not.. My suggestion to you is to let go and then truth will be reveiled. You cling on way too much. Good luck though, you'll need it.
23. phdinbubbles said...
Ask 100 historians why the roman empire fell and you'll get 100 theories. I'm not sure how anyone can predict the collapse of civilizations when we can't agree on why they fell in the past - a Mayan calender's probably got as much chance of being right as anything else - but only in the withnail stopped clock sense. At least the Mayan calender's quite entertaining though.
So what happened to the Mayans then?
From wikipedia:
For reasons that are still debated, the Maya centers of the southern lowlands went into decline during the 8th and 9th centuries and were abandoned shortly thereafter. This decline was coupled with a cessation of monumental inscriptions and large-scale architectural construction.[8] Although there is no universally accepted theory to explain this “collapse,” current theories fall into two categories: non-ecological and ecological.
Non-ecological theories of Maya decline are divided into several subcategories, such as overpopulation, foreign invasion, peasant revolt, and the collapse of key trade routes. Ecological hypotheses include environmental disaster, epidemic disease, and climate change. There is evidence that the Maya population exceeded carrying capacity of the environment including exhaustion of agricultural potential and overhunting of megafauna.[9] Some scholars have recently theorized that an intense 200 year drought led to the collapse of Maya civilization.[10] The drought theory originated from research performed by physical scientists studying lake beds,[11] ancient pollen, and other data, not from the archaeological community.
24. Philippo said...
notaneconomicsguru is pulled up on a charge of 'not making sense'.
While assertions like: "The "sixth day" mapping of the official end of the Korean War is this weekend. So expect the bailouts to finally start working." Slip past completely unchallenged?!
Please explain.
25. phdinbubbles said...
Sorry, that should be calendar.
26. rumble said...
But civilizations can only ever go up!
27. mountain goat said...
After years of comfy living, television, eating adulterated food and riding around everywhere in cars using borrowed money the West is in for change.
Being prepared for the future is better than a tranquilliser. Otherwise you end up being the rabbit caught in the headlights, fascinated by the destructive force heading your way. Whatever the future holds it seems clear it is not going to be business as usual. So it is good to explore worst case scenarios and face fear associated with change. If you look back far enough you find that the situation we face now has been repeated many times.
Still the future is a guess so we should all chill out when it comes to opinions on what this may be.
28. Eternal Sceptic said...
A cautious person should always make an informed decision about the future and try not to be swayed overmuch by the mainstream media. Collapse, as in the mad max scenario, is a very feasible outcome when the hinges of the ever joined up world start to buckle.
However this is an extreme view. More tomorrow, of what has occurred since the sixties, would seem unlikely. Too many things are occurring too rapidly for 'experts' to get a handle on the situation.. The financial world is unravelling and this impinges on every aspect of life. Will we queue like lambs at the soup kitchens when employment goes skyhigh? or will the thin veneer that keeps us docile citizens shatter? These are questions a rational person would think about and make their own call on. I find a web search on' 7 meals from anarchy' concentrates the mind beautifully. You can guarantee when the losers outnumber the winners, life is going to be changed for all.
29. Maureen said...
What nonsense, if this is the result of their research then they have fallen into the fear politics mode of Bush/Blair/Brown, for their own reasons, probably to grab attention. Even the icesave link is well dated, that message is no longer there, but do follow the link to see what really happened. And as for 'battling through two different compensation schemes to get their money back.' The compensation scheme could not have been simpler, I and thousands of others have been paid 'compensation, as the FSCS call it, within weeks.
30. sold 2 rent 1 said...
P4AC,
"Will they replace it with world government S2R? Or, do we have a defacto world government already, run out of NYC, which is being exposed and coming out into the open, and that it is about to fall?"
If ETHICS replace POWER then the world government project will fail in autumn 2010
But what of the real people controlling the planet, where do they go?
But what is the final phase leading to CO-CREATION?
What will the final "fifth night" destruction in 2011 be about?
This is when the truth of the universe is revealed.
31. Gregooo99 said...
You lot on here make me laugh. You always assume the staus quo in everything-monetary systems and most of all energy production. As I am involved in the latter I will tell you this. $400 oil? Don't make me laugh. We can now produce light sweet crude at $4 a barrel here in the USA with unlimited resources. That's just one source. You guys should also research what is being done in the "mushroom" sphere to feed people and clean up from years of misuse of the Earth's resources. Clean up at pennies on the dollar compared with existing "accepted" technologies. Energy production will be the new "dot com" but with sustainable employment in real industries. Instead of going backwards and forwards showing how clever you all are with the use of the English language, educate yourselves on what is going on in the REAL world. Technology is not standing still waiting for the acpocolypse-despite what you people think.
32. george monsoon said...
As long as people need food, shelter and tools, we will have an economy.. its the people that make the wheels turn, not the banks, and yes, we are in for rough times, but things will pick up.. as they always have and always will, its just that the last couple of generations are not used to it, so its a bit of a shock.
33. sold 2 rent 1 said...
Gregooo99 ,
You make some interesting comments with specific reference to energy and technology.
I could well believe that production of $4 barrel oil is possible and that we have massive reserves as I believe the abiogenic oil theory.
The problem is that the Elite controlling the show have kept these new technologies and oil reserves hidden to enslave the masses.
As we are now realising that house prices are a function of available credit, so too is the oil price based on speculation, political stability and the dollar losing its status as the world's reserve currency. So $400 oil has little to do with production costs but to do with many other factors with the biggest one being USD massive devaluation, which will happen within 2 years.
As for alt energy, I presume you are talking about solar, wind etc.
I agree there will be a "dot-com like" boom in this sector in Q2 next year but these will turn out to be bad investments by 2011.
Why? Because advancements in understanding "dark energy" will blow any existing technologies away.