Thursday, Nov 27, 2008

Food inflation will be 3.5-7% next year

NY Times: Food Prices Expected to Keep Going Up

[USA data contradicts predictions of 0% inflation for next year]. "The Agriculture Department is forecasting that food prices will increase 3.5 to 4.5 percent in 2009, compared with an estimated 5 to 6 percent increase by the end of this year. Some economists project even steeper increases next year up to 7%. A reason that overall food prices are expected to continue increasing is the lag between price increases for basic commodities and for finished food products in the grocery store, particularly for meat and processed foods.
“For the last 21 months, food manufacturers, restaurants and livestock producers have been absorbing significant costs that in my view are likely to be passed on to consumers in 2009 and beyond,” said Mr. Lapp, a former chief economist at ConAgra Foods.

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1. mountain goat said...

Food inflation to slow slightly in 2009 but still prices going up

Thursday, November 27, 2008 03:36PM Report Comment
 

2. rickyb said...

I'm a little sceptical of the BOE's inflation (or deflation) forecasts. You can't have GDP growth and a reduction in energy consumption without inflation. With energy consumption currently dropping at around 2% p.a., any attempt to get GDP growth back in positive territory is bound to be inflationary, unless the country starts to increase its energy consumption very soon.

Thursday, November 27, 2008 03:45PM Report Comment
 

3. phdinbubbles said...

You don't think our government could be lying to us about deflation and their real motive in dropping interest rates is to resuscitate house prices? Did they not read the DNR on the notes? What's the point of keeping it alive for another painful 6 months? Oh yes, an election.

Thursday, November 27, 2008 03:48PM Report Comment
 

4. planning4acrash said...

Our government lie about everything. Inflation is increase in the money supply, deflation is reduction in the money supply, all other things are part of the overall implications of the altered money supply. What you should know about inflation.

Thursday, November 27, 2008 04:20PM Report Comment
 

5. alan said...

I don't think RPI will go below 1% in the next 6 months.

My gut feel . Any views?

Thursday, November 27, 2008 04:34PM Report Comment
 

6. rickyb said...

An increase in the money supply will cause inflation, but only if it does not go towards infrastructure or capital growth, both of which would increase energy consumption.

Thursday, November 27, 2008 04:36PM Report Comment
 

7. stillthinking said...

Food is up 10% on last year. I don't think food is going to get cheaper.

Thursday, November 27, 2008 05:07PM Report Comment
 

8. planning4acrash said...

My food costs have fallen 75% by choosing Farmer's markets. Food is not more expensive, the pound is worth less, so imports cost more, and we import much of our food.

Thursday, November 27, 2008 06:32PM Report Comment
 

9. Kruador said...

I think there are two factors. First, food prices have been high because the commodities futures markets have been overwhelmed by price speculators. As all other bad trades are unwinding, commodities trades have had to unwind too (the markets are structured in a way that does not require the commodity to ever be delivered). See for example http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/CW/W for wheat futures - spot the fall from April to now, both in price and in open interest. http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/CW/M shows the bubble from - guess when - 1999 to 2008.

Secondly, the inputs to food production are primarily fuel for farm machinery, artificial fertilisers (which are based largely on steam reforming of natural gas to produce ammonia for nitrates), and a small amount of human work. The input prices are locked in when the land is ploughed and seed sown, and fertiliser laid. These prices will reflect the cost of crude oil and natural gas at that point. These have been falling and are continuing to fall. (Natural gas is now below the level it was before the 'shock' caused by the disclosure of Norway's leaky pipe.)

In summation, they're completely wrong. Food prices should fall back to their long-term averages as the credit that caused the bubbles is wiped out.

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