Friday, Nov 28, 2008

A millenia of cruel inflation

media.economist: Gold price since 1344 in Sterling


Gold at 530pounds, up at its all time high, following an exponential trajectory that began when the last vestiges of the gold standard were removed in the 1970's. We are on a trajectory back to the gold standard, because, a revaluation of gold, to pay off all the debt, is the only way to deal with the debt crisis.
The graph above shows how gold price has risen via a millenium of inflation. Beginning with the clipping of the coignage, such as reducing the amount of gold in the sovereign coin, accelerating with the first Bank of England in the 1600's, culminating in this century's boom following the Federal Reserve and the final capitulation from the ending of the gold window in the 1970's.

Posted by planning4acrash @ 06:44 PM (793 views) Add Comment

13 Comments

1. quiet guy said...

"a revaluation of gold, to pay off all the debt, is the only way to deal with the debt crisis."

I thought that the whole point of buying the stuff is that it's price cannot be manipulated, in the long term, by governments.

The article that the illustration comes from can be found here:
http://www.economist.com/research/Backgrounders/displaystory.cfm?story_id=347626
Noe that this article dates back to 1999.

Friday, November 28, 2008 07:05PM Report Comment
 

2. Tyke said...

Has p4ac actually put his money where is mouth is and invested in gold?

Friday, November 28, 2008 07:43PM Report Comment
 

3. planning4acrash said...

Gold price is currently being manipulated, because it does not account yet for the trillions in the shadow banking system, i.e. derivatives. Most of those must be written off to solve the problem, but some of them will need to be paid for, and that can only occur with a massive revaluation upwards.

It is the overall gold supply that cannot be manipulated. The amount available to the market can be manipulated, as can the paper price via fraudulent derivatives trading and fraudulent fractional reserve gold markets like COMEX, which only have about 14% of the gold they sell.


By the way, the flat line after 1600 is actually inflationary, because this is a logarithmic scale. The scale, lengthened, would show a massive jump in gold price inflation post 1970's once the gold window was closed on the US dollar.

Friday, November 28, 2008 07:44PM Report Comment
 

4. sold 2 rent 1 said...

The graph misleading.

Real gold priced in USD fell for 400 years until 1918 and has been rising ever since.

Friday, November 28, 2008 07:54PM Report Comment
 

5. planning4acrash said...

Got a betta one?

Friday, November 28, 2008 08:09PM Report Comment
 

6. mountain goat said...

2 very different graphs???


Friday, November 28, 2008 08:11PM Report Comment
 

7. mountain goat said...

Friday, November 28, 2008 08:12PM Report Comment
 

8. mountain goat said...

try again!

Friday, November 28, 2008 08:13PM Report Comment
 

9. planning4acrash said...

Your graphs are adjusted for inflation. Mine isn't, so reflects inflation via real gold prices.

You got one that's comparable, that isn't adjusted for inflation?!

Friday, November 28, 2008 08:19PM Report Comment
 

10. planning4acrash said...

Your graph shows that gold keeps up with inflation, give or take a bit, my graph shows that inflation has been persistent over the same period. They don't conflict with each other, they reinforce each other and reflect different aspects of the same thing.

Be careful to not bite off more than you can chew, tho, your posts could have been more useful had you stopped to read the graphs.

Friday, November 28, 2008 08:24PM Report Comment
 

11. mountain goat said...

P4C "bite off more than you can chew"

take it easy alright, my "try again" was me trying to get an image to appear.

Friday, November 28, 2008 08:27PM Report Comment
 

12. sold 2 rent 1 said...

MG,
That's the graph I was looking for.


Gold fell for 400 years during the Spengler autumn just like gold falls in the Kondratieff autumn (18 years).
Now we are in Elliott wave 5 from 1918 and heading for a new era.

Friday, November 28, 2008 11:22PM Report Comment
 

13. planning4acrash said...

S2R, gold fell relative to inflation, but grew in nominal terms. The graph was adjusted for inflation.

Saturday, November 29, 2008 09:36AM Report Comment
 

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