Thursday, Oct 16, 2008
"The IMF has to be rebuilt as fit for purpose for the modern world,"
CNBC: Brown urges IMF reform, global financial order
BRUSSELS, Oct 15 (Reuters) - The International Monetary Fund must be reshaped to help regulate the world's financial system and avoid a repeat of the global credit crisis, British Prime Minister Gordon Brown said on Wednesday ahead of an EU summit. "The IMF has to be rebuilt as fit for purpose for the modern world," Brown said after talks with European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso.
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1. sold 2 rent 1 said...
Just for p. doff......
global financial order = NWO
2. mark wadsworth said...
I don't usually believe in MalcT's conspiracy theories, but it seems that El Gobblo and his friends Paulson, Barroso etc are feeding us plenty of evidence to the contrary.
3. timmy t said...
Regulators might have left the stable door open but you spent 10 years pushing the horse out Gordo
4. tinker said...
Hasn't Brown been ignoring the IMF's warnings for the past few years?
If anything is not fit for purpose: it's Brown.
5. rm96696 said...
Given his track record, Gordon Brown rebuilding the IMF is like Attila the Hun rebuilding the colosseum.
6. planning4acrash said...
Mark. Those in control always want to consolidate power, they must always be secretive because everybody else wants personal liberty. Demonizing the word conspiracy is classic counter intelligence & Orwellian newspeak. Delete a word to banish thoughts.
7. planning4acrash said...
The scientific dictatorship is where people are brought to love their servitude by conditioning and a constant stream of hobgoblins caused by the state for the state to pose as saviour. Brown aims to be discredited by the world bank, hand it the baton.
8. watchman said...
s2r1
How people can't see that the new world order is real is beyond me, and these are people that are trying to be ahead of the game because they wouldn't be using this site otherwise...
I hope you really enjoy hammering your points home as it all unfolds ;-)
9. pelethar said...
Erm. The only quote in this article is:
"The IMF has to be rebuilt as fit for purpose for the modern world," - Gordon Brown.
I don't see how that justifies some of the very excited comments on this thread, frankly. Could it be that you have made your mind up about what the politicians are thinking, and are commenting based on your own preconceptions rather than analysing real events?
10. Fjcruiser said...
Forget about the macroeconomic policies of the IMF. They have all failed whereever they have been applied. Let's get rid of the macro economists, the quantitative analyts and the likes which advise our governments and simply go back to barter.
11. planning4acrash said...
Brown wants a one world financial system to solve the problem. No mention of fundamental changes in UK. No mention of a return to sound money and free markets. All eyes on the global. Undemocratic global technocracy that cares not for individual liberty.
12. planning4acrash said...
By the way. Aweful chemtrails today in Hove.
13. mark wadsworth said...
@ Pelethar, as explained, I am not a conspiracy theorist as such, but it is indisputably true that our gummint enjoyes creating a Climate Of Fear in order to be able to ram through restrictions on our freedoms, increasing taxes and enlarging the power of the state.
Whether this is creating a ...
- fear of terrorism (-> 42 day detention),
- a fear that cannabis drives you mad (evidence tenuous at best -> reclassification to Class B),
- fear of global warming (-> bin inspectors, ludicrous landfill tax, green taxes, HIP certificates, subsidies for nuclear power and windmills etc),
- fear of 'financial crisis (the banks are in rude health, frankly -> increase taxes to nationalise banks);
- fear that 'the countryside is being concreted over' (-> illiberal planning laws, high house prices -> key workers schemes, which make many public sector workers into 'tied workers', i.e. slaves)
- fear of racial tensions (-> race relations industry, 17 page forms for coppers to fill in)
- fear of passive smoking (-> higher taxes on fags, smoking ban in pubs)
- fear of paedophiles (-> regulations and restrictions on school trips, CRB checks for Scout troop leaders and nursery nurses)
- fear identity theft (-> ID cards. Don't ask me how they worked that one out)
etc etc.
The only thing that really worries me is power cuts, which the EU/LibLabConsensus are more or less guaranteeing with their stupid rules against coal fired power stations.
I rest my case.
14. pelethar said...
So, what I said then. A politician says "global solution" and you hear "new financial world order". It demeans your arguments when they are detached from reality. That doesn't mean I agree with what Brown is saying, I just don't see how what he is saying here adds up to what you seem to be reacting to. Which means you are reacting to something else, perhaps a quote Brown has said in another place, perhaps something someone else has said, or perhaps a voice in your head.
15. denzil said...
pelethar said:
"The IMF has to be rebuilt as fit for purpose for the modern world," - Gordon Brown.
I don't see how that justifies some of the very excited comments on this thread"
You are right it doesn't justify, but people will clutch at straws in an attempt to bolster their beliefs is classic conspiraloon fodder.
However, it's quite amusing watching them salivating over what is perhaps the most tenuous link ever.
16. pelethar said...
Mark, sorry, my response above was a reply to p4ac @ 12.52. I pretty much agree word for word with your post @ 12.58 - this government, like the one in the US (though not quite to the same extent) is addicted to the behaviour you describe and it's nauseating at best.
17. pelethar said...
Mark, sorry, my response above was a reply to p4ac @ 12.52. I pretty much agree word for word with your post @ 12.58 - this government, like the one in the US (though not quite to the same extent) is addicted to the behaviour you describe and it's nauseating at best.
18. shipbuilder said...
Mark, absolutely. But the crucial point of difference is that the conspiracists believe that this is all designed down to the last detail by a small elite that have their own ranks and plans and has been carried out over the last couple of centuries. Their plans include suppression of technology, 'invention' of global warming and peak oil, wiping out 80% of the population by slow poisoning, creation of natural disasters, creation of terrorist events, imprisonment of the population, all as laid out in Endgame.
To believe in the NWO nonsense you must believe ALL of this, because each bit is a building block for the whole theory.
Let's not make the mistake in believing that healthy cynicism = conspiracy theory.
19. denzil said...
mark wadsworth said:
"The only thing that really worries me is power cuts"
God, yeah! No Xfactor on Saturday night, the thought is unbearable.
20. timmy t said...
Denzil - Power would be restored for X-Factor. Simon Cowell is "one of them"
21. denzil said...
Mark Wadsworth said:
"but it is indisputably true that our gummint enjoyes creating a Climate Of Fear in order to be able to ram through restrictions on our freedoms"
In the main I agree with you, though most of your list are not really that high on the list of "restrictions of freedom", but nearly all do identify a fear approach taken by the govt.
Interestingly enough the messiahs of those who believe in conspiracy theories use exactly the same fear tactics but they further intoxicate the mix by stating that those that believe in them are special because they can see what the majority can't because the majority are blind. The classic counter argument used by the conspiracy theorist against those who question them is, "wake up people". Lots of groups in all sectors adopt this approach.
22. theboltonfury said...
watchman - so what if there even is a NWO
so what????????????????
what is your point?
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24. Watchman said...
tbf -
no point really, just passing the time
25. denzil said...
timmy t said:
"Denzil - Power would be restored for X-Factor. Simon Cowell is "one of them""
Actually, David Icke says that Boxcar Willy is one a group of lizard people that run the planet so I would not at all be surprised if Cowell is one of them too :-).
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27. malct said...
Quote from Lord Acton
"The issue which has swept down the centuries
and which will have to be fought sooner or later
is the people versus the banks."
28. malct said...
Quote from Napoleon Bonaparte
"When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain."
29. malct said...
Quote from Marcus Tullius Cicero
"Endless money forms the sinews of war."
30. malct said...
Quote from Barry Goldwater
"The Trilateralist Commission is international...(and)...is intended to
be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and
banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the
United States. The Trilateralist Commission represents a skillful,
coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of
power - political, monetary, intellectual, and ecclesiastical."
31. malct said...
Quote from Milton Friedman
"I am myself persuaded, on the basis of extensive study of the historical evidence, that... the severity of each of the contractions - 1920-21, 1929-33, and 1937-38 - is directly attributable to acts of commission and omission by the Reserve authorities and would not have occurred under earlier monetary and banking arrangements.''
32. malct said...
Quote from Robert Hemphill
"If all the bank loans were paid, no one could have a bank deposit,
and there would not be a dollar of coin or currency in circulation.
This is a staggering thought. We are completely dependent on the
commercial Banks. Someone has to borrow every dollar we have in
circulation, cash or credit. If the Banks create ample synthetic money
we are prosperous; if not, we starve. We are absolutely without a
permanent money system. When one gets a complete grasp of the picture,
the tragic absurdity of our hopeless position is almost incredible, but
there it is. It is the most important subject intelligent persons can
investigate and reflect upon. It is so important that our present
civilization may collapse unless it becomes widely understood and the
defects remedied very soon."
33. timmy t said...
Malct, quote from Mr. Walker, one of my teachers at school...
"Get on with your work"
34. denzil said...
quote from Simon Cowell
“I think you have to judge everything based on your personal taste. And if that means being critical, so be it. I hate political correctness. I absolutely loathe it.”
35. malct said...
29. Every kind of loan proves infirmity in the State and a want of understanding of the rights of the State. Loans hang like a sword of Damocles over the heads of rulers, who, instead of taking from their subjects by a temporary tax, come begging with outstretched palm to our bankers. Foreign loans are leeches which there is no possibility of removing from the body of the State until they fall off of themselves or the State flings them off. But the GOY States do not tear them off; they go on in persisting in putting more on to themselves so that they must inevitably perish, drained by voluntary blood-letting.
TYRANNY OF USURY
30. What also indeed is, in substance, a loan, especially a foreign loan? A loan is - an issue of government bills of exchange containing a percentage obligation commensurate to the sum of the loan capital. If the loan bears a charge of 5 per cent, then in twenty years the State vainly pays away in interest a sum equal to the loan borrowed, in forty years it is paying a double sum, in sixty - treble, and all the while the debt remains an unpaid debt.
31. From this calculation it is obvious that with any form of taxation per head the State is baling out the last coppers of the poor taxpayers in order to settle accounts with wealthy foreigners, from whom it has borrowed money instead of collecting these coppers for its own needs without the additional interest.
a 'fairy tale' translated into English around 1905
36. malct said...
42. You know to what they have been brought by this carelessness, to what pitch of financial disorder they have arrived, notwithstanding the astonishing industry of their peoples ....
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41. The GOY rulers, whom we once upon a time advised should be distracted from State occupations by representative receptions, observances of etiquette, entertainments, were only screens for our rule. The accounts of favorite courtiers who replaced them in the sphere of affairs were drawn up for them by our agents, and every time gave satisfaction to short-sighted minds by promises that in the future economies and improvements were foreseen .... Economies from what? From new taxes? - were questions that might have been but were not asked by those who read our accounts and projects.
42. You know to what they have been brought by this carelessness, to what pitch of financial disorder they have arrived, notwithstanding the astonishing industry of their peoples ....
same fairy tale
37. sold 2 rent 1 said...
P4AC,
"By the way. Aweful chemtrails today in Hove."
Yeh. The worst I've seen this year over Berkshire too
Took 3 photos with my phone on my daily walk.
Will show the non-believers the next time the end-of-money comes up.
38. pelethar said...
Why don't you type up a report on your invisible typewriter, and get your friend Harvey the giant invisible rabbit to rush it to Mulder & Scully in his flying sausage? Or is that exactly what the NWO would expect you to do?
39. malct said...
Blossom Goodchild explains why Galactic Federation of Light mothership didn't turn up.
scary stuff -
http://au.youtube.com:80/watch?v=rm4v8ylAxTc
40. sold 2 rent 1 said...
malct,
David Wilcock's explanation.
http://divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=410&Itemid=70
For me it was simple - consciousness doesn't change that fast - not yet anyway.
41. unplugged said...
We are often almost talking about the same thing. Its a kind of chicken and egg debate: What came first - the idea or the need for the idea?
Either way our self appointed leaders have put themselves forward and are doing an awful job... touble is it won't be easy to get rid of them because we are totally reliant on them. Chicken or egg?
Some people seem to get almost exasperated by all this and start to ridicule of others as if they know whats what. Thats a display of immaturity that only detracts from their own often sensible points and opinions IMO. It would be more helpful to establish exactly what we can agree on IMO.
42. James said...
MOBILE PHONE, S2R1?
Do you not realise they can track your every move with one of those and that the microwaves are linked to all sorts of degenerative diseases? I think you're an NWO/Telecoms industry plant designed to lull everyone into thinking that mobiles are safe. I think we know who you are.
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