Sunday, Jul 20, 2008

Wrong......this cancer will not stop because its a good area

The Telegraph: Market towns 'most likely to beat housing slump'

Traditional English market towns appear best placed to survive the housing slump because people will pay more to live there, a new report suggests...........Good area or not if you cant get a mortgage for the silly prices you wont get the overpriced home.....and if you have payed off your mortgage in your Knightsbridge 1m luxury pad to downsize to the country someone still has to get a mortgage for your house...oh dear they cant

Posted by titaniccaptain @ 12:35 PM (1859 views) Add Comment

25 Comments

1. symo said...

Wow the estate agents are fast running out of immunity cases aren't they. First it was Scotland, then London, then central London, now market towns. What next? Sheds located in 200 acres with no utlities?

Sunday, July 20, 2008 12:41PM Report Comment
 

2. Ccamper said...

Telegraph Tits!

Houses in general will slump 60%. Houses in market towns will slump 58%.

Woot!

Sunday, July 20, 2008 12:43PM Report Comment
 

3. letthemfall said...

More house ramping from Halifax. The nice places have always been more expensive and rely on buyers with plenty of money. That doesn't mean that prices won't fall there too, especially as the rich who could afford the high prices are more likely to lose their highly paid jobs in finance.

Sunday, July 20, 2008 12:46PM Report Comment
 

4. wdbeast said...

It's quite simple really.

The more housing has gone up in any area (London especially), the further it will fall.

It's called gravity!

There will not be any general exceptions, only the timing will be slightly different. e.g. Scotland

Sunday, July 20, 2008 01:41PM Report Comment
 

5. paul said...

The media are still in denial - aren't they getting just a little bit embarrassed about their own editors' bias yet?

The public and these papers' readers worked out quite some time ago that rising house prices are good for;

1. Mortgage lenders
2. Estate Agents
3. DIY stores
4. Newspapers with big property advertising sections

And no-one else. So why do newspapers, estate agents, and lenders keep trying to convince us that falling house prices are a really bad thing?

Sunday, July 20, 2008 01:48PM Report Comment
 

6. titaniccaptain said...

Well said wdbeast
And dont forget its the London money that keeps the rural property market afloat. With everyone trying to flee that god forsaken place at retirement age from the city job to spend the rest of his or her life wearing tweed and aron jumpers and looking down their noses at the locals......until the locals all become retired city folk from london who will probably open up a self appreciation society to massage their egos until in 10 years they have to move on again this time to a retirement home for which they will have to sell their house (to fund their last days) to more retiring city folk..........and so the cycle to the dim but dim continues..........till now...........................Now to retire to the country they need to sell their house in London (Or which ever financial hub they work from) and they cant do it..............unless of course they drop the price of their house by............alot.........by end of next year 50% (In my opinion). Meanwhile somewhere in Britain's glorious countryside Felicity and Henry both looking to sell to go into a home together also have to sell their less than humble abode. After 12 urine soaked months of waiting Henry is forced to do the unthinkable and drop 3 Zimmer cottages by 50% in order to sell to (Dare I say it) A local person..........aaaaaaagggggghhhhh lowering the tone of the area...............I love the England............but I love Wales more.......the only country to have a national vegetable that they wear with pride on their patron saints day..............

Sunday, July 20, 2008 04:56PM Report Comment
 

7. titaniccaptain said...

Sorry about the spelling as usual guys.........it comes with being a creative genius and modest

Sunday, July 20, 2008 05:10PM Report Comment
 

8. Fatjock said...

Sat renting in the Yorkshire countryside and tucking money away every month...only debt is a car loan that finishes in two months. I'm watching several villages with eagle eyes.

In my line of work the wages are the same up here as in London (I break IT systems for a living) so why suffer down there when you can be up here?

I've worked bloody hard for the past five years to minimise debt and increase my savings. Hold on HPCers our time will come soon...

Sunday, July 20, 2008 06:13PM Report Comment
 

9. Orwell said...

Great I will change the name of my area.

Southmead - on - Market, Bristol...
Market Mosside, Manchester...

Well get the drift?

Sunday, July 20, 2008 06:15PM Report Comment
 

10. nooneo said...

Symo @ 1.#

"estate agents are fast running out of immunity cases"

Very good point.

Sunday, July 20, 2008 06:22PM Report Comment
 

11. last_days_of_disco said...

I think the general hatred of ex-London dwellers is misdirected. They couldn't really push the prices up if the locals had a thriving local industry. That is the prime cause. Basically there is nothing happening in the country. The finance sector has become way out of whack and really mucked up the balance, that is now correcting. You should welcome ex-Londoners and make them feel at home. The money they bring in keeps many of these towns going. Smart local leaders will try to keep the new comers by making things attractive.

You are right however that due to the stupid increase in prices in London, the countryside has been flooded with Londoners escaping. Pray they won't all leave again. Maybe they will be able to work from home using the Internet and actually become effectively local branches of the companies they worked for in London. Reviving dying schools, bringing volunteers for local organizations, etc, etc.

There are some real pluses to this bubble that people have yet to really appreciate. The fact is that lots of people who have discovered there is life outside the M25 was basically because of high house prices and now they have learned to love it and don't want to go back.

Sunday, July 20, 2008 06:34PM Report Comment
 

12. titaniccaptain said...

@last days of disco
"You should welcome ex-Londoners and make them feel at home. The money they bring in keeps many of these towns going. Smart local leaders will try to keep the new comers by making things attractive."
What a load of sh#t......................All Hail the great londoners and their money...............lets remember to tip our hats to them as they drive by....................These people are pushing the locals out of the housing market and DESTROYING communities bringing in financial distict values of me me me it is nothing but colonialism within a counties own borders and creates a greater us and them in society......why do you think the Welsh burnt their houses down in the 70s and 80s? im not condoning it but coming from a rural community I have seen this destruction first hand

Sunday, July 20, 2008 07:00PM Report Comment
 

13. Katewinslet'sraft said...

Well said, Titaniccaptain. I have a good friend who lives in Devon and has seen locals driven out by Londoners doing exactly what you said.
People like that also buy second homes...only go there in the summer months and then local youngsters can't afford to buy homes in their own area. You end up with houses empty for most of the year and the local communities reduced to one pub and lots of gift shops. It happens all over the country and its disgusting.

Sunday, July 20, 2008 08:03PM Report Comment
 

14. malct said...

tc - absolutely - with you totally - the 'monopoly money' in SE england has DESTROYED peoples' lives - the scene is at least as evil as BTL probably more so. Hopefully this crash will send them all back to the crap they crawled out of where they can stew for the rest of their days. Sad thing is the damage to good local people is done for years to come.

Sunday, July 20, 2008 08:46PM Report Comment
 

15. it_is_going_with_a_bang said...

Did I just read that right? Because people have paid more to live there over the last few years that means that prices will be affected less than anywhere else?

I can't really see what is being said here? It's a pointless article which doesn't really make a point. Other than state facts about the last few years rises. Which of course is completely meaningless in the next few years.

Sunday, July 20, 2008 09:22PM Report Comment
 

16. malct said...

paul: try this :-

Andover Advertiser (Friday)
Asian Eye
Avon Advertiser - Salisbury
Banbury Cake
Barnes, Mortlake & Sheen Times
Barry & District News
Basildon Recorder
Basingstoke Gazette Extra
Basingstoke Gazette Friday
Basingstoke Gazette Monday
Berrow's Worcester Journal
Bexley News Shopper Series
Bicester Advertiser
Blackburn Citizen Group
Blackpool Citizen Group
Bolton Journal
Bradford Star
Braintree & Witham Times
Brentford, Chiswick & Isleworth Times
Brentwood/Billericay Weekly News
Bridgwater Mercury
Bridport & Lyme Regis News
Brighton & Hove Leader
Bromley News Shopper Series
Bromsgrove Advertiser
Bucks Free Press
Bucks Free Press Midweek
Burnham & Highbridge Weekly News
Burnley Citizen Group
Bury Journal/Messenger
Bury Times
Bury Tuesday Times
Caerphilly Campaign - East
Caerphilly Campaign - West
Campaign Quicksearch
Cardigan & Tivyside Advertiser
Castlepoint/Rayleigh Standard
Chard & Ilminster News
Chelmsford Weekly News
Cheltenham Independent
Chester-le-Street Advertiser
Chingford Guardian
Chorley Citizen
Clacton & Frinton Gazette
Colchester & East Essex Express
Congleton Guardian
Consett & Stanley Advertiser
County Independent
Craven Herald & Pioneer
Crewe & Nantwich Guardian
Croydon Guardian
Darlington & Stockton Times
Darlington/Aycliffe Advertiser
Devizes, Melksham & Vale of Pewsey News inc. Marlborough Times
Dorking Life
Dorset Advertiser Series
Dudley News
Durham Advertiser
Ealing Times
Enfield Independent
Epping & Redbridge Independent
Epping Guardian
Epsom & Banstead Guardian
Essex County Standard
Essex Weekly News
Evesham Admag Series
Evesham Journal Series
Falmouth Packet Series
Free Press Series (Pontypool)
Gatwick Life
Gazette & Herald (Yorkshire)
Gloucester Independent
Gloucestershire County Gazette Series
Halesowen News
Halstead Gazette
Hampshire Chronicle
Haringey Independent
Harlow & Bishops Stortford Citizen
Harrow Times
Harwich & Manningtree Standard
Helston Gazette
Hendon Times Group
Hereford Times
Hillingdon & Uxbridge Times
Horley Life
Hounslow Guardian
Hounslow, Feltham and Hanworth Times
Ilkley Gazette
Keighley News
Keighley & Craven Target Series
Kidderminster Shuttle
Kidderminster Times
Kingston Guardian Series
Kingston, Surbiton & New Malden Times
Knutsford Guardian
Lancaster & Morecambe Citizen
Leigh Journal Friday
Leigh Journal Midweek
Lewisham News Shopper Series
Leyton and Leytonstone Guardian
Loughton, Chigwell and Buckhurst Hill Guardian
Ludlow/Tenbury Wells Advertiser
Maldon & Burnham Standard
Malvern Gazette/Ledbury Reporter
Mid Devon Star
Mid Sussex Leader
Midweek Advertiser - Andover
Milford Mercury
New Forest Post
NewsExtra (Eastleigh & Winchester)
Newton & Golborne Guardian
North Yorks Advertiser
Northwich Guardian
Ongar Guardian
Oxfordshire Herald Series
Oxford Star
Penarth Times
Penwith Pirate
Preston Citizen Group
Prestwich & Whitefield Guide
Property Weekly Series
(Richmond, Kingston, Elmbridge, Cobham, Wimbledon, Putney)
Putney & Wandsworth Guardian
Putney & Wimbledon Times
Radcliffe Times
Redbridge, Waltham Forest & West Essex Guardian Series
Redditch Advertiser
Redruth/Camborne Tinner
Redhill & Reigate Life
Richmond & Twickenham Times
Runcorn World
St Albans & Harpenden Observer
St Albans & Harpenden Review
St Austell/Bodmin/Newquay Packet
St Helens Star
Sale & Altrincham Messenger
Salisbury Journal
Sedgemoor Star
Somerset County Gazette
Southampton Advertiser Series
South Bucks Star
South Coast & Lewes Leader
Southend Standard Series
Southern Property Advertiser
South Wales Guardian
Staines Guardian
Stourbridge News
Stourport News
Streatham Guardian
Stretford & Urmston Messenger
Stroud News & Journal
Sunday Independent (Plymouth)
Surrey Comet Series
Sutton Guardian Series
Swanage & Wareham Advertiser
Swindon Star
Target Series (Bradford)
Taunton Star
Teddington & Hampton Times
The Cleveland Clarion
The Oxford Times
The Romsey Advertiser
The South Lakes Citizen
The Watford Observer
Thurrock Gazette
Truro Packet
Waltham Abbey Guardian
Waltham Forest Independent
Walton & Weybridge Guardian
Wandsworth Borough Guardian
Wandsworth Borough News/Battersea News
Wanstead and Woodford Guardian
Warrington Guardian
Warrington Guardian Midweek
Warrington Mercury
Watford & Rickmansworth Review
Watford Free Observer
Wear Valley Advertiser
Welwyn & Hatfield Review
Western Telegraph - Pembrokeshire
Westmorland Gazette
Weymouth & Dorchester Advertiser
Wharfedale & Airedale Observer
Widnes World
Wilts & Gloucestershire Standard Series
Wilts Gazette & Herald Series
Wiltshire Star
Wiltshire Times Group
Wimbledon & Morden Guardian
Wimbledon News
Winsford and Middlewich Guardian
Wirral Globe
Witney Gazette
Yeovil Express
York Advertiser
York Star Series

all local english papers owned by one multinational american corporation

newsquest - gannet - CFR - psychopaths

you won't see this on their website now, but that's where it came from.

Sunday, July 20, 2008 09:23PM Report Comment
 

17. nopensionnohouse said...

!!!!

http://www.thisisnewsquest.co.uk/
http://www.newsquest.co.uk/
http://www.gannett.com/

Sunday, July 20, 2008 09:34PM Report Comment
 

18. nopensionnohouse said...

http://www.newsquest.co.uk/portfolio2/newspapers/

Sunday, July 20, 2008 09:35PM Report Comment
 

19. malct said...

and?

Sunday, July 20, 2008 10:01PM Report Comment
 

20. malct said...

why?

Sunday, July 20, 2008 10:03PM Report Comment
 

21. nopensionnohouse said...

"... to educate Americans about the world..." was the official line.

Sunday, July 20, 2008 10:15PM Report Comment
 

22. nopensionnohouse said...

... well according to youtube anyways.

Sunday, July 20, 2008 10:19PM Report Comment
 

23. last_days_of_disco said...

@titaniccaptain

Well I was taking a risk taking a somewhat contrarian position on a site like this.

The point I was making was that looking at the people and companies I have found in the countryside I am convinced the economy is unsustainable. Unless you want to all go back to horse drawn carriages and stuff. Basically we have to find a way of moving more of the workforce out of London/Manchester/Liverpool/insert city into the countryside. The Internet makes that a lot more possible.

This is not a bad thing if you want your local pub/shop/post office to stay open. I am not talking about monopoly money here. There may be a good percentage of the jobs held by people who work in London, etc that are bogus, fair enough. However many folks actually come from those towns and villages originally (you speak as though they are aliens from another planet). Do you not want these people back contributing to your economy. You are forgetting house prices is only one piece of the picture and a declining piece at that (thankfully).

The repairs to the local village buildings (like the 13th century church, etc) are paid for by donations from people who have good paying jobs and the fact is that those jobs are going to remain in London, etc, no matter how much you rant and rave. Resorting to stupid violence is just going to result in your area becoming a sink estate. Deal with it.

Try and see what I was saying. I too despise the retirees trying to tip it the Lord of the Manor, but I am not talking about them, I am talking about people with good jobs and kids who are going to be part of the community and may already have family locally.

Remember in the Great Depression 70% of the workforce kept their jobs. So there will still be lots of folks looking for a safe place for their kids to go to school outside of the centres. Its an opportunity for country towns to bloom.

Sunday, July 20, 2008 10:53PM Report Comment
 

24. Mytimeisnigh said...

When I buy (at the right time) I would only consider buying in a 'nice' area, where children are safer to play, chav free and the community spirit is not dead. My expectation is that property prices will fall in these places, but they will still be expensive. It has always cost to live in these post codes and nothing will change that, but there will be reductions. When I look on rightmove and see the prices of houses in 'nice' areas close to where I was brought up, the inflated prices are no where near as unbelievale as the inflated prices in Tipton, Quarry Bank , Oldbury (West Midlands) etc etc .......Nobody in their right minds would pay £250,000 to live there!

Sunday, July 20, 2008 11:29PM Report Comment
 

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