Tuesday, Jul 15, 2008
What has his got to do with HPC ???
BBC: Bush lifts offshore drilling ban
President George W Bush has lifted an executive ban on drilling for oil in most US coastal waters, and has urged lawmakers to follow suit.
He wants Congress to end its separate ban on drilling, in order to reduce US dependence on oil imports.
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1. gardeniadotnet said...
I'll have a "T" please, Bob.
G.
2. drewster said...
It has naff all to do with HPC. Either post something relevant or go back to your tomatoes.
3. beartil2010 said...
The oil crisis is a global issue driving inflation, costs and influencing our economy massively. I am glad to see some varied things on here, as long as they're not way off target - means I don't have to go to other sites for the news.
Dependent on S2R1's 'no energy crisis' hypothesis this could cause the oil bubble to pop... although I don't think it will.
4. gardeniadotnet said...
2. drewster said...
It has naff all to do with HPC. Either post something relevant or go back to your tomatoes.
Ha Ha. You just couldn't resist taking the bait, could you!
As your consciousness awakens Drewster, you will come to realise that the above article is everything to do with HPC.
5. i remember the 90`s said...
Oil is main driver behind possible reccession which in turn will speed up hpc imo.
6. malct said...
3. beartil2010 said... "Dependent on S2R1's 'no energy crisis' hypothesis "
I don't think even s2r1 can take credit for the " 'no energy crisis' hypothesis "
But yes oil is hugely relevent to hpc issues for one I have an oil tank and a car and a house.
I suspect a few other people in the UK are in the same boat.
7. sold 2 rent 1 said...
Nice one gardenia.
Oil, as a single factor, has more to do with HPC than any other single item.
8. shipbuilder said...
Yee-ha! Ignore them hippies and keep on pumpin'.
I wonder why an environmental movement supposedly founded by the oil companies is speaking out against this?
9. sold 2 rent 1 said...
beartil2010 & malct,
“’non energy crisis’ hypothesis"
Give the credit to Lindsey Williams - he wrote the book and made the video.
I see the Google Video "non-energy crisis" has been number one on a weekly basis since the 11 May.
http://video.google.com/videorankings?type=viewed&cr=usa&hl=en&range=w2008-07-13
Before anyone disputes this, look at "most viewed" and not "hot videos"
Personally, I think the "non-energy crisis" is just one stepping stone on our consciousness awakening path.
Following on from “oil misinformation” will come the “energy/technology suppression” awakening
Free energy/Tesla videos make up 7 out of the top 40 in Google Video
http://video.google.com/videorankings?type=viewed&cr=usa&hl=en&range=w2008-07-13&start=20
Google Video "most viewed" videos is a good reflection of the state of world consciousness.
10. sold 2 rent 1 said...
shipmate,
"the environmental movement supposedly founded by the oil companies"
This makes sense as it keeps the oil price high as new discoveries are left untapped for environmental reasons.
11. rickyb said...
All this talk of free energy, but why has nobody ever submitted their free energy theories or inventions to serious scientific scrutiny? Now that safe and anonymous information sharing is available to all, one would think that even the most paranoid inventor would be able to find an outlet on which to share work of this importance with other scientists and engineers.
12. baroo said...
s2r1: "Google Video "most viewed" videos is a good reflection of the state of world consciousness."
You're joking? Most people in the world don't even have access to a computer capable of viewing Google Video. Although in a few years time you could be right ( http://www.techworld.com/news/index.cfm?NewsID=9119 ).
13. debtfree said...
@rickyb
the most paranoid inventor is able to find an outlet:
http://www.aero2012.com/en/index.html
Advanced Energy Research Organization, Inc. (AERO) is offering an up-front $200,000 licensing award and minimum $5 million two year royalty program for a qualifying new energy breakthrough.
14. sold 2 rent 1 said...
rickyb,
"but why has nobody ever submitted their free energy theories or inventions to serious scientific scrutiny?"
They have. Stanley Meyer has 9 patents registered.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Meyer
The grip of the power elite over new technologies was too great 10-20 years ago
"Now that safe and anonymous information sharing is available to all"
This anonymous information sharing is only a very recent thing.
Things are changing very fast now as the power elite lose their POWER.
Watch the free energy/Tesla videos and make your own mind up.
15. gardeniadotnet said...
Perhaps Steorn is (part of) the answer:
From their website...
Orbo is the brand name of our free energy technology. Orbo is a technology that produces free, clean and constant energy. It can be applied to power products ranging from portable music players to cars.
16. Davros said...
Has anyone ever taken anything S2R1 posted as being serious? I don't want to rain on anyone's parade here but his only two falsifiable hypothesis have been blown out of the water. Lets remember that wondefully accurate prediction on the price of oil - that really made me chuckle. What was it supposed to be trading at this week S2R1? 50 to 90 percent lower? Hmmm.... so wouldn't the fact that it's trading in the 140's mean that you really are a fruitcake?
btw I hear that you can power a whole office block simply by using a coaxial cable and a slightly warmed strawberry. I saw it on youtube therefore I'm right and I win.
17. sold 2 rent 1 said...
baroo,
"Most people in the world don't even have access to a computer capable of viewing Google Video"
Just as opinion polls based on very small samples can determine election outcomes accurately, so the videos watched on Google can determine the future and direction of world consciousness.
Sure there are many people who are ignorant of all the issues we discuss. But comparing the Google Videos people are watching now compared to 6 or 12 months ago shows you how world consciousness is changing.
Have a look for yourself and see the change happening.
18. rickyb said...
@s2r1
As far as I am aware, registering a patent does not imply that the invention has undergone serious scientific scrutiny. Anyone can register a patent, and no proof is required that the invention works.
19. Happy Mondays said...
I for one am looking forward to the day the world does WAKE UP! to the fact we are and have been imprisoned by a system that suit a few who are power hungry numb nuts, and free energy is just around the corner i'm sure, but until then can we not put all the soon to be out of work "estate agents, financial experts,property gurus" and anyone else who's had a hand @ helping spike up property prices' and therefore everything else, on power generating bicycles or Rodent wheels to produce energy! (only joking)
20. sold 2 rent 1 said...
rickyb,
Apparently when the tests were being performed, the patent examiners weren't taking the ideas too seriously too.
When the "device" starting giving off massive amounts of hydrogen, the were panicked screams of "hydrogen in the building" to ensure no-one had a lit cigarette
21. Paully said...
s2r1: "But comparing the Google Videos people are watching now compared to 6 or 12 months ago shows you how world consciousness is changing."
Your logic is so flawed on every level. So because the video is watched by someone, it means they believe it? How about this for a more likely hypothesis: People like you who are so crazed that you spread links to these videos everywhere. Emailing it to your entire address book with "If you don't forward this on a goblin will eat your soul" in the text and posting on websites such as this that have nothing in common with your mad ideas. Thus they end up being watched by a lot of people. It doesn't mean that people will swallow it, though I'm willing to bet the less well informed might.
Another thing on logic - Apparently theres an unlimited supply of oil, its being covered up. But also we don't need oil we can use water, and thats being covered up. A double cover-up - that makes no sense whatsoever. Its so well covered up that google videos telling us this are being watched by every man, woman and child. Whats more the most powerful companies on earth, like Exxon, (surely your 'power elite pro plus'), actually attempt to discredit MMGW and keep telling the world theres plenty of oil - not really much of a conspiracy is it.
I have a theory S2R1. I think that you pretend to have an interest in house prices and you chose your username accordingly. I don't believe you have "sold to rent" at all. I believe instead that this is an outlet for your paranoia. Your postings on this website almost never have any real world relation to house prices. Instead the choice of username is a thin veil to disguise your true intentions. It's known as a 'Wedge Strategy'. The 'Discovery Institute' use the same strategy for creationism - an equally ridiculous concept. Whilst I am a firm believer in free speech, there has to be limits and the ideas you attempt to disseminate can only be classified as poison.
22. p. doff said...
Oh Jeez. Why do some people have to go on and on and on and on and on and on ..... ad nauseum...about the free energy 'untruth'?
And why is it the same people make the same stupid claims that free energy is being suppressed, that cars can run on water, that some shady NWO 'power elite' organisation is controlling everything, that vast underground deposits of oil have secretly been discovered in Alaska, that all future events can be predicted by a calendar produced by some long extinct backward race, etc. And all of this is apparently proven by the presence of loony videos posted on youtube and google, and verified in a finely honed fashion by checking which of these videos has been viewed most. Yeah right!
What I read from this article is that the environment is always likely to be sacrificed when the human race is faced with any shortage - be it energy (oil), water, food or land. This doesn't bode well for our unsustainable future does it.
23. drewster said...
Yes oil is related to HPC - but a story about Bush authorising drilling in some fairly small oilfields isn't going to make much difference. Peak oil is real, get over it. This latest move makes America look like a drunk squeezing the last drops out of a beer mat.
24. shipbuilder said...
10. sold 2 rent 1 said...
"shipmate,
"the environmental movement supposedly founded by the oil companies"
This makes sense as it keeps the oil price high as new discoveries are left untapped for environmental reasons."
Except that George W Bush, also supposedly connected to the NWO, wants them open. So what exactly is the plan? Another example of your flawed logic so well summed up by Paully.
25. shipbuilder said...
It seems incredibly stupid that the NWO, while trying to keep oil prices high, would allow GWB to push for opening up of the US coast. It also seems incredibly stupid that the NWO would try to decimate the world's population and therefore the source of their wealth. It also seems incredibly stupid that the NWO, while assasinating people, covering up and so on, would allow the world's biggest video websites to broadcast the 'truth'. That they would use the most roundabout, expensive, lengthy and unreliable methods possible to achieve their aims beggars belief.
It's like that time at school I listened to an adult Christian tell us that God created the world, including fossils, with 'apparent age' to 'challenge us'.
I nearly p*ssed myself laughing.
26. p. doff said...
Well said Paully. Had I seen your posting before I started typing mine, I wouldn't have bothered as you have covered it so eloquently.
Also well said Shippy. Trouble is, as we all know S2R1 is thick skinned and can't accept logic.
Gardenia/Ray. Naughty boy again.You knew this would happen didn't you. I know, I know .... light blue touch paper and retire 40 paces. Fun to watch when you're bored eh!
27. gardeniadotnet said...
26. p. doff said... Fun to watch when you're bored eh!
Not at all.
When I post articles like the above, I tend to learn as much, if not more, from the responses than from the original article.
28. malct said...
g. I've learned a lot by keeping quiet today, might make it a habit.
Ther again, some people might stop taking this peak oil thing so seriously when Hormurz is closed to traffic
29. malct said...
p.doff - "S2R1 is thick skinned and can't accept logic." oil
Whereas Iran has used its banking system, including the Central Bank of Iran, to support its proliferation efforts and its assistance to terrorist groups, leading the Department of Treasury to designate 4 large Iranian banks proliferators and supporters of terrorism;
8. mken said...
paul @3
You have to wonder how CML PR and the BBC are related if "research" like this is presented as news.
Tuesday, July 15, 2008 06:31PM
MKEN sadly this is not a new problem - it seems in each generation some people wake up and ask the question/s you are asking. Only to be overtaken by events. try this quote from good history
The ordinary citizen must not imagine that he or she has no influence here.
For example, some sections of the press are no longer playing fair with their readers, but are beginning to omit awkward pieces of information or to present them with a deliberately false emphasis. The ordinary reader has a right to demand fair treatment and to tell the editor so. The press is still sensitive to public opinion, but the outcry now will have to be much louder and more sustained than it used to be. All this applies too to the BBC., now controlled by persons who are more anxious to please their friends than to serve the British listening public. Pelethar.
J.B. Priestly - Hardbacked book of which I have a tattered copy
Out of the People p126
1941
what I find hard to understand is how some people can scream about being lied to by VIs one minuit and then scream equally loudly that the same people aren't lying about climate change and peak oil.
30. shipbuilder said...
Malct - I don't remember property commentators mentioning peak oil and climate change.
Nobody believes in MMGW or peak oil because the BBC tells them so - it's the mounds of scientific evidence to back them up that do the trick.
On the other hand, some people seem all too ready to believe Alex Jones or youtube, with no evidence.
I know which i'd go for.