Monday, May 19, 2008

Money, CPI, and bubbles

Zeal LLC: Money Inflation

It is ironic that the surges in money never go into the sector the Fed is trying to bail out. The tech-stock bailout attempt went into housing. And the housing bail out is already starting to flow into commodities. This is a serious problem for the Fed. When monetary inflation hit tech stocks and housing, people saw it as good. But when monetary inflation hits commodities, most folks aren’t going to be thrilled.

Posted by sold 2 rent 1 @ 09:58 AM (379 views) Add Comment

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1. sold 2 rent 1 said...

So when the "useful" commodity bubble bursts sometime in the next year, will the final bubble going into Martin Armstrong's low in 2011 be gold.

Monday, May 19, 2008 10:27AM Report Comment
 

2. Adrian said...

A nice article, well worth reading.

Monday, May 19, 2008 01:11PM Report Comment
 

3. planning4acrash said...

Its not a problem for the Fed, because the Fed don't care about the bubble, they only care about the balance sheets of the financiers they represent.

BTW, S2R, I've been thinking how your ethics thing would pan out. Now, you've been saying up until now that ethics will overcome power. I totally disagree. That is not evolution. The only way that it could work is if law and power become balanced, with ethics being the product. The nature of any system, when parts become connected and become whole is, that the affect they have on each other cause the parts of the system, and the whole, to do things that the individual parts would/could not to alone. Thus, the system has greater properties than the sum of its parts, and ethics is a product of the union between law and power, and indeed all the other stages that preceeded law, i.e. reason, etc.

This is why I have focussed on some interesting developments around the dates you put forward. The US being forced to list the Polar Bear as endangered, contrary to most policies of the power elite, UK MP's being forced to tell us how they spend our money on themselves, a judicial review of the UK bring forward the Lisbon Treaty without a referendum is underway. Ireland is about to vote on the Lisbon Treaty. Ron Paul is using Republican rules to get a voice and a challenge in the Republican convention, or whatever it is. The whole financial fiasco is down to international financiers shelving the US constitution, which explicitly prohibits their actions. Enforcement of that, now, would be the final straw for the elite. Will we see law forcing conclusion of the 9/11 truth movement? Exciting times.

Monday, May 19, 2008 01:51PM Report Comment
 

4. planning4acrash said...

So, going further than what you said, power is not only necessary for ethics, it is an integral part of it, once it comes into balance with other parts of society. Once ethics is formed and comes into harmony with the other bits, then you could get co-creation. I'll just sit back now and see if it happens! Just ordered the Calleman Book, so I'll let you know how I get on with it.

Monday, May 19, 2008 02:35PM Report Comment
 

5. sold 2 rent 1 said...

I like your ideas P4AC.

So power will not be overthrown by ethics but power will be foced by law to become more ethical.

"Will we see law forcing conclusion of the 9/11 truth movement?"

QUOTE
"In court documents filed this week in U.S. District Court in Manhattan, aviation companies are seeking to force five FBI employees to provide testimony that may help defend against claims the companies share blame in the attacks."

Quote from: Aviation companies blame FBI, CIA and terrorists for 9/11
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/04/30/america/Sept-11-Lawsuits.php

The 7/7 trial at the moment will start its defense soon. Will Law make Power more ethical here.

Monday, May 19, 2008 03:53PM Report Comment
 

6. sold 2 rent 1 said...

2 big WW2 "fifth night" mapped dates coming up

14 June 2008 - D-Day landings
6 July 2008 - Hiroshima and Nagasaki A-bombs

We know the last "fifth night" 1932-1952 is where Power overcame LAW.
To summarise, we have had 100's of depressions and wars in history. But this was the first to have been fully orchistrated by the Power Elite.

But this is the view we can only see 60 years after the event.
What was the consciousness change at the time from joe public?

Wars had been brutal before but the big difference this time was the A-bomb.
For the first time in history humans realised that we could destroy the world.

The Battle of Stalingrad (12-20 May 2008) resurfaced in Burma and China.

My guess is the D-Day landings (14 June 2008) will resurface in Europe.
The Irish vote on the EU Treaty of Lisbon on 12 June

Intuition says that the WW2 A-bombs (6 July 2008) will resurface in USA.
The primary focus here will be 9/11 truth and AIDS is a man-made virus with a deliberate intent to kill blacks and gays.

P4AC, if your inuition is correct we should see court cases with these items.
The LAW will drive POWER to be more ETHICAL

Monday, May 19, 2008 04:13PM Report Comment
 

7. planning4acrash said...

S2R, you almost got me. However, a slight skew on your understanding would bring it to mine. Power and law, and all the other preceeding stages should begin to start interacting properly with power, once it is fully formed, taken to its logical conclusion. Power would not become ethical, but law and all the rest, by interacting properly with power, would begin to work together to let all things spontaniously produce ethical behaviour by being part of that system. Power, it would seem reached its zenith around the .com period, Iraq, 9/11, etc. Once at its limits, it is mature, and stops growing, so other elements of society can catch up and come into harmony with it.

So power does not become ethical, but ethics is created by a new synergy between power, law, reason, etc. possibly in a way that it will be taken for granted, just as it has been taken for granted the past 250yrs that corporations will trample upon people and the environment. Not for any other reason than that it is an inevitable, logical conclusion.

That system, once complete, allows for the final part of the process, co-creation. A linear system is a hierarchy. But once complete, feedback is possible. That is when the last part affects the first part, creating a circle of cause and affect. Each part being affected by the affect it has on every other. It is the opposite to hierarchy, where each part is as integral to the system as every other. It is what we see in natural ecosystems, etc. which only reach points of instability when parts become over-dominant, e.g. a yeast bloom and die off.

In many ways, ethics is societal feedback. So, once ethics (feedback) is complete, in ?2009 or 10? The hierarchies of the world become obsolete, untenable. So we would see co-creation, dissolution of linear hierarchies and installation of non-linear dynamic relationships throughout society. Maybe the high speed internet you refer to would facilitate that. Of course, it would also facilitate the sort of control seen in 1984, but not if law is upheld.

So, the co-creation phase would see a dissolution of the hierarchies and a formation of a non-linear society where no one group dominates any other.

Anyway, this can be discussed abstractly, without mention of the mayan calended, but wouldn't it be nice if this was actually about to occur!

Monday, May 19, 2008 04:20PM Report Comment
 

8. sold 2 rent 1 said...

Gold hit $913 this morning.

Looks like the low of 850 on 2 May was the end of Elliott wave 4 correction
Techieman - are you still with us?????

If the final Elliott 5 repeats itself like in the May 2006 blow-off, it should last for approx 2 months.

This correpsonds closely to the WW2 A-bombs "fifth night" mapping on the 6 July.

A peak in gold and a change in world consciousness in early July - there is a brave prediction
James - bookmark this page

Monday, May 19, 2008 04:28PM Report Comment
 

9. sold 2 rent 1 said...

P4AC,

LIKE it at @ 6

"In many ways, ethics is societal feedback. So, once ethics (feedback) is complete, in ?2009 or 10? The hierarchies of the world become obsolete, untenable"

Both the Armstrong and Calleman/Lungold models show order returning to the system in 2009 and 2010
But the path to co-creation will involve lots of chaos as well (peaking in summer 2011).

"So, the co-creation phase would see a dissolution of the hierarchies and a formation of a non-linear society where no one group dominates any other."

If the goal here is for the planet to be like a living organism then the formation of society will be similar to formation of cells in the human body.
There will be no conflict between people just like there is no conflict between cells in our body.
Any conflict will be seen like a disease and should be treated with the appropriate medicine.

There will be status differences between humans, just like a brain cell has a greater status than a skin cell. But there will be conflict between people with different statuses

Monday, May 19, 2008 05:00PM Report Comment
 

10. planning4acrash said...

Each organ in the body receives what it needs to be nourished and grow, and each is as important as all the rest for the survival of the whole. An ecosystem is probably a better analogy. But, as with all systems, human society is one and alone unique, because it involves the unique functions of intelligence, which could, in theory, eliminate the need for predators to keep the population and monetary expansion, etc. in check.

Monday, May 19, 2008 06:20PM Report Comment
 

11. sold 2 rent 1 said...

"An ecosystem is probably a better analogy."

I think the human brain is a better comparison.
The East and West side of planet Earth are not working together.
Just like a genius can maximise both sides of his/her brain, if Earth can do this, imagine what we could achieve.

Not all cells/organs are equally important. EG. A person can lose an arm and still do very well, but if they lose their head, that is a show stopper.

Corporate structures will be replaced by "peer" structures.

Monday, May 19, 2008 07:58PM Report Comment
 

12. planning4acrash said...

Basically, few people use more than a couple percentages of their potential brainpower, and our creativity is vastly multiplied by the potential synergies from working together, in relationships, communities, teams, organisations, where hierarchical power structures and limited availability of information (the two are linked, hense the importance of the internet). Plus the monetary system that keeps us as economic slaves. We have SO MUCH potential. damn it. Wasn't it Lungold who said, when asked what would happen after 2012, that people would have to get used to bliss?! Then an Eon of getting building our potential, restoring our cities, restoring our environment, withdrawing from useless wars, building our economies, getting used to having more free time and freedom in general. Oh, I shouldn't get carried away, following this story of yours is like lookin at the lottery numbers each week. I don't do that, but then, massive personal wealth, in differentiation to others, isn't my dream.

Monday, May 19, 2008 08:57PM Report Comment
 

13. planning4acrash said...

Well, exactly S2R, the human brain IS the example. Because it is the problem and solution. It is the thing that differentiates us, gives us potential and causes the problems of integration that we are all struggling here and now. So yep, spot on.

Monday, May 19, 2008 09:02PM Report Comment
 

14. sold 2 rent 1 said...

IMHO, by 2012 every part of reality that can change probably will.

Why are there 2 end dates to the Mayan Calendar? 28/10/2011 and 21/12/2012
Maybe Earth will complete its creation on 28/10/2011 but the universe won't complete until 21/12/2012

Just as 6bn humans may form a planet consciousness, a year later there might be 6bn planets forming a universal consciousness.
Crazy stuff.

Monday, May 19, 2008 09:26PM Report Comment
 

15. sold 2 rent 1 said...

Read this

http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_04/bloom060904.html
for the planet as a brain concept.

Brian Bloom is on our level.
his book Beyond Neanderthal should be out soon.

Also, what do you think of
http://www.runyourcarwithwater.com/

My intuition says this will be possible. The question is when? Not long with exponential evolution and the point of singularity.
Could solve peak oil though.

I would be dumping my oil stocks right now if I had any.
And if oil tanks gold stocks will rocket to the moon.

Monday, May 19, 2008 09:35PM Report Comment
 

16. planning4acrash said...

I personally wouldn't be looking for anything too esoteric. Sure, there is a spiritual world out there to discover, but getting along is a cognitive issue. End conflict and monetary slavery and we all have space to explore the meaning of consciousness, community, family, etc. My favourite quote sums it up:

"Nobody needs to go anywhere else. We are all, if we only knew it, already there." (Aldous Huxley "Island" 1962)


I reckon, if there's to be a revolution, it will be a lifting of the veil. A destruction of the lies and distortions and the behaviour of the power elite that drive the hierarchy. Giving us freedom to reach our potentials. Nothing more, nothing less. I also think that gold will come into favour, not by decision from the power elite, but spontaneously from a spontaneous collective movement. Watch out for vendors accepting gold or electronic currency backed by gold. This is possible in the internet. With things like bullion vault, you can have online ownership. people are choosing to store their wealth there, in a way that would not have been possible during the great depression. If the vendor and yourself use bullionvault or something else, then the exchange can occur readily if facilitated. And people will choose it, if the dollar and euro are set to rapidly depreciate.

Its a story to watch, spontaneous creation of a global online gold standard, which governments would be forced to accept as legal tender via gold backed coinage or notes if it took off and everybody craved it.

Monday, May 19, 2008 10:21PM Report Comment
 

17. planning4acrash said...

Infact, likely, it would not be via coinage. It would probably be via an electronic system, like oyster card. Now, that sounds scarily like the NWO conspiracy, but electronics and chips can be the tool of freedom seekers or oppressors. Law, in balance with power, would let it be for ethical reasons. An electronic system could check gold linkage and hopefully avoid counterfeit. Watcha think?

Oh, and I bet that there are lots of technologies being held back. How about the rubber tyre that was indestructible, that was pulled because tyre companies lost their market through loss of obsolescence! These types of things will end if we are right.

Monday, May 19, 2008 10:25PM Report Comment
 

18. planning4acrash said...

Could governments end up selling enough gold that they no longer have the ability to manipulate the markets? Could enough gold go into the pockets of individuals? (Like in India) so that the power elite loose their control over gold prices? Is that possible?

Monday, May 19, 2008 10:35PM Report Comment
 

19. planning4acrash said...

Surely, the shift from central banks to individual owners would not need to be massive to alter the balance of power? So maybe buying gold is the true radical action? I want to but am scared of doing it!

Monday, May 19, 2008 10:50PM Report Comment
 

20. sold 2 rent 1 said...

Converting bullionvault and similars into banks will be relatively easy.

As the existing banking system implodes, as it certainly will if Ron Paul gets into power and stops the money printing, then a new gold-backed money system will emerge from these gold vault companies.

Intuition leads many of my decisions now.

Monday, May 19, 2008 11:41PM Report Comment
 

21. planning4acrash said...

Do you think Ron Paul could actually get into power? I think he possibly could on the back of a successful 9/11 truth movement. He is the only pro-peace candidate.

Monday, May 19, 2008 11:49PM Report Comment
 

22. planning4acrash said...

Ron Paul voted for the Afghanistan invasion. To respond to the terrorists. But I'm sure that he would change his mind if the 9/11 truth movement was proved right.

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 12:16AM Report Comment
 

23. sold 2 rent 1 said...

McCain is useless.
Ron Paul on the internet/youtube and with his new book is making big progress.

Ron Paul pens NY Times bestseller book
http://www.news8austin.com/content/your_news/default.asp?ArID=209148

WE ARE CHANGE are backing him.

Everything is in place for an internet viral tipping point.
The internet is key to this change of consciousness

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 12:39AM Report Comment
 

24. sold 2 rent 1 said...

Gold is at $907 this morning

Looks like the low of 850 on 2 May was the end of Elliott wave 4 correction
Techieman - are you still with us?????

If the final Elliott 5 repeats itself like in the May 2006 blow-off, it should last for approx 2 months.

This correpsonds closely to the WW2 A-bombs "fifth night" mapping on the 6 July.

A peak in gold and a change in world consciousness in early July - there is a brave prediction
James - bookmark this page

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 09:43AM Report Comment
 

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