Saturday, Apr 26, 2008
Part 1 of Pillars of Prosperity - Audio tape
Ron Paul: Has Capitalism Failed?
Suggests that the financial problems we face today are not a failure of free markets and too much capitalism, but are the result of a command and control economy which has ensured that western economies have never experienced free economics and true capitalism. Explains that this is the cause of the 1930's depression and the economic crisis today.
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1. planning4acrash said...
http://www.mises.org/store/Revolution-The-A-Manifesto-P481.aspx
2. Stevie Dee said...
p4ac,
this money is surely a signal to the US citizen to stock up on food. Just a hunch.
3. planning4acrash said...
4. Mr T F Hat said...
Please Paultards keep to your own forums
5. shipbuilder said...
Ron Paul, like others of his ilk - Libertarians, the various conspiracy theorists that have taken him as their leader, simply wants to get to an alternative form of capitalism, one that is possibly (although I don't agree) fairer for the average joe. And that's fair enough, but his supporters should at least admit it instead of pretending that he represents some great form of change to a more equal and humanitarian world. It is still the same old individualism pushed by those who are annoyed that the current form of individualism isn't delivering for them, personally.
Under Ron Paul there would be no closure of the wealth gap and no opposition to corporate control.
6. planning4acrash said...
Ron Paul constantly expresses that he supports Capitalism, simply goes to say how our current planned, corporatist economy is NOT Capitalism. I do advise that you listen to the audio before commenting.
7. planning4acrash said...
Ron Paul probably goes a bit too far and would strip too many regulations, BUT, this is because he is a lone voice in Congress. With other's in tow, one would begin to see a balanced progressive movement for change.
8. Stevie Dee said...
@p4ac & shipbuilder,
Whether it is Ron Paul or someone else, one thing we can be certain of, there will be change, good or bad, long or swift, but my belief is that eventually a system that is fairer for the majority will prevail. If it means going through a period "darkness" first to get there, then so be it. What we are seeing globally is definitely not CAPITALISM. It is COMMUNISM with flashing lights. NWO, Gravy Bunch, World Elite, I don't really care. But I do believe FOOD is the play, followed by energy. And what does this have to do with housing? Just to remember that you can't eat bricks.
9. shipbuilder said...
planning4acrash said...
Ron Paul constantly expresses that he supports Capitalism, simply goes to say how our current planned, corporatist economy is NOT Capitalism. I do advise that you listen to the audio before commenting.
I know that - it's not Ron Paul himself I was making the comment about - rather his supporters who seem to view him as some form of saviour from the elite - he's far from it. The corporates would thrive under his plans, whether he likes them or not - his 'true' capitalism only works effectively if everyone is starting from square one, on equal terms. The reality is that the corporates will still have all the advantage and all the control they currently have because of their size and media connections.
10. James said...
More mongo nonsense, you'll be posting threads about 9/11 next.
11. planning4acrash said...
I'll accept that good money can only be one part of the picture, bit it is certainly a good one!
Maybe others can suggest some more parts of the jig saw?! My head hurts!
12. shipbuilder said...
I guess I don't agree with capitalism because I believe money should be taken out of the equation altogether - money is a means to an end, not the end itself. The sooner the efforts of society are focused on society itself and the problems we all face, the better. A good book to read is 'What are you optimistic about?', where the world's top minds give their opinions on the future - money is barely mentioned because the people at the forefront of technology, physics, biology etc. don't give a sh*t about it - they have more important things on their minds.
13. planning4acrash said...
Money is just the most liquid store of wealth, like, you could have money in a bushel of wheat, and that is as money is, but its not a universal tender. Money is a stable store of liquid wealth necessary for post barter society, its stable if not fiat.
14. planning4acrash said...
You dislike the speculative & risk elements of fiat currency. With good money, if the world had just $10, earn one and you own 10% of the world's wealth. It will never appreciate or depreciate, can be exchanged @ ne time4 10% of world production=freedom
15. planning4acrash said...
Thinking about it even more, your cash, in good, non fiat money, would feel like it was appreciating, stored under the mattress, if production increases or gets better and more effective.