Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008

Even less money to waste on Mortgages

Times: Era of cheap food ends as prices surge

Families have been warned that the prices of basic foods will rise steeply again because of further acute shortages in the commodity markets.

Posted by enuii @ 11:11 PM (514 views) Add Comment

9 Comments

1. planning4acrash said...

Again, we have lies. There is a shortage of dollars in the pockets of the plebeians, whilst banks, who speculate on international food markets, have a disproportionate percentage of the world's money supply, as a direct result of bank "bail outs".

Tuesday, April 22, 2008 11:40PM Report Comment
 

2. planning4acrash said...

It is exactly the same argument as saying that an infinite supply of 100% mortgage money chasing a finite quantity of houses always results in a shortage of houses, because the speculators require an infinite supply of houses to achieve speculation and stable houses.

Applied to food prices, banks almost have an infinite supply of cash to improve their balance sheets by speculating within the markets and lending to each other to allow them to do so. Hense, we have a virtually infinite supply of cash chasing a limited food crop. It doesn't matter whether the speculation is for bio-fuels or food staples, the money for the speculation comes from the same source. The result is, that all, but disproportionately the poor, are robbed of their standard of living (in the west) and their lives (in the developing world).

Tuesday, April 22, 2008 11:45PM Report Comment
 

3. harold said...

"...because of further acute shortages in the commodity markets."

Bull. It's because of commodity inflation outstripping wage inflation - i.e., we are getting poorer. Doh...

Lesson: don't waste your time with propaganda rags like the Times.

Tuesday, April 22, 2008 11:46PM Report Comment
 

4. planning4acrash said...

Harold, unfortunately, the entire corporate infrastructure is engaged with propaganda. Has been for generations.

Finally, with t'internet, us plebs can access information to find out the truth.

Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:17AM Report Comment
 

5. str 2007 said...

I guess 10% of the rise will be coming from the fact this government has devalued the pound.
Not sure what percentage of food we import but I'd guess at 60-70%.
But you're all correct about the speculation element.

Can society survive without a banking system ?

Or can it be changed/regulated so radically that it is just that - a bank - not a commodity speculation pool.

Wednesday, April 23, 2008 07:58AM Report Comment
 

6. planning4acrash said...

A currency backed by a virtually unproductive commodity with almost constant supply (gold) would ensure that money supply and inflation remained stable. Capitalism isn't the problem, we don't have capitalism. Govt's printing money is a planned economy.

Wednesday, April 23, 2008 08:19AM Report Comment
 

7. Cannycat said...

In terms of how much we import, a navy officer once told me it's approximately 97% of everything we eat, wear and use. Though this isn't just for food, it does throw light on a) how we can't actually sustain ourselves b) how a nation of former farmers has turned into a pretty bunch of parasites over the generations c) how much we must be taking from the developing world.

Wednesday, April 23, 2008 09:18AM Report Comment
 

8. also sold to rent said...

Speculation is a minor part in this and a required part. Demand growth has outstripped supply and input prices are increasing. Therefore prices increase. This has to happen to increase supply. It's pretty simple. Not pleasant, but simple.

Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:52PM Report Comment
 

9. planning4acrash said...

Also sold to rent, shortages do not result in general inflation without an accompanied growth in money supply.

Wednesday, April 23, 2008 08:13PM Report Comment
 

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