Monday, May 07, 2007
This Is Britain 2007!??
Tehran Times: Social meltdown in the UK
A biased but somewhat embarrassingly accurate view of British life in 2007.
Posted by nearly30 @ 09:02 PM (170 views) Add Comment
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1. nearly30 said...
This overplays the God angle - but you have to admit to being slightly red-faced from reading this.
I very biased viewpoint - but the facts are still true - but one feels the mirror needs a quick spin to now face the accuser!!!!
2. Flick said...
Accurate in that many have moved beyond fearing the tooth fairy and have started to think for themselves. (though admittedly many don't seem to think at all)
Would you rather live somewhere where teenage girls are stoned to death for misdemeanours?
Any way, hardly very HPC related.
3. Pandyhead said...
Yes all true but I only see one side of the coin. If you look at any society you can see great evil. But have another look you will see there is another side.
4. Ticktock said...
I don't think you really need God in order to take the point.
Entirely true, but could have been much worse I think, considering the real plight of contemporary Blighty.
They could have easily added that we don't even own Our Own Country (or Culture) anymore. Or that Our 'democracy' is a fraud?
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7. japanese uncle said...
Sadly this description of the British society is spot on, though I cannot agree that nearness to Allah is a way to attain peace and goodness.
These phenomena can better be explained by referring to labor theory of value as advocated by Karl Marx, whether one likes it or not.
If a family can no longer survive without relying on mom's working outside homes, people are simply more severely exploited than before, regardless how may times you can fly overseas for holiday (by borrowing money, of course), or how many bottles of wine a week you can afford to consume, etc. House price is simply playing a pivotal role as vehicle to shift value from the poor to the rich here.
When I first came to the UK as a tourist, there was still some element of Britishness where money was not necessarily everything, which nowadays are converted into an element of pseudo or sub-Americanness, where one is supposed to have done a good thing if one can make money out of it. Very sad indeed.
8. sirgoogle said...
From a British Religious Minority myself (practicing Christian within the CofE) I find myself agreeing with many of the points... many of which I have made many times in the past. I have met many a Muslim and Hindu who actually wish Britain lived up to its historic Christian credentials as then they would be better protected and respected and society in general would be better. Instead we have a society that is selfcentred, intolerant and materialistic. .... however, that said, Britain is still much much safer and nicer to live in than any Muslim country I have been to. It is a shame that Iran and other Muslim nations cannot also take a similar look at themselves before pointing at Western nations in propaganda articles like this - I was in Egypt recently and was shocked at the living conditions of the majority, the lack of care for the environment, the obvious lack of employment and of the constant criminal activity and deceit (yes we had stuff nicked and were conned too). The people in these countries are also not living up to "Muslim" standards any more than the majority of the British are living to "Christian" standards of behaviour.
9. Zeed said...
Yes, but this is all well and good but what about the two men who were hung for homosexual acts in Iran,
I am sure there are many more examples like this....
10. talking rot said...
The article fails to mention some of Iran's more pleasent habits. For example: the extremely high rate of addition to opium based drugs; the porous borders which allow Explosively Former Projectiles into Iraq which are used extensively against fellow Arabs in a futile Sunni-Shia power struggle; and if Iran is so wonderful, why are their inordinately high numbers of Iranian women in the brothels of the smaller Gulf states and Euope? (See Asain Times article "Jihadis and whores By Spengler - 21 Nov 2006).
The only good thing about Iran is that even I could afford to buy a house!
11. autopilotengage said...
Thank "God" or "Allah" she's gone back to Iran now, she sounds really boring. I bet she doesn't even know what's going on in the current season of 24.
12. Orwell said...
I would think that some individuals in Iran do think that hanging 15 year old women for adultery 'cures' moral infraction ... but I do wonder?
13. nearly30 said...
@Flick - "Any way, hardly very HPC related" - what? Why ever not - this spot on HPC related - dual incomes needed to survive, banks forcing people to borrow more and more, the govt failing to support people, greed making the nation more and more divided etc. etc. I could go on....
14. taffee said...
iran isn't perfect by any means,however,the reality is that we are all born then we all die,regardless of wealth or status.
In this country we spend most time worrying about money and wealth and the east spend more time worrying about spiritual heath.
whoever is 'right' its still just a way of filling time before death
15. Shahib said...
sometmes the truth hurts and its uncomfortable to read...but I'm not sure I need to take lessons from a culture which appears to abhor the notion of female emanicipation or gay rights and where sending suicide bombers to slaughter innocents is regarded as legitimate political activity.
16. japanese uncle said...
Those who still embody genuine Britishness in this country are just toddlers yet to be possessed by the Mammon.
17. Chilli said...
"From childhood up to adulthood, there is rarely a thought given to any reality other than this material world."
I object!!!!!!
I think about girls all the time :o).
18. Scott said...
The author of the article is absolutely spot on about Britain and we must act. But if we were to put his culture on trial next to ours, I know who would come up smelling of roses.
19. Ticktock said...
REF - the porous borders which allow Explosively Former Projectiles into Iraq which are used extensively against fellow Arabs in a futile Sunni-Shia power struggle.
Come on Rot, you can't tell me that if Scotland was invaded and occupied by Norway that 'terrorists' wouldn't be slipping over the border from England to assist with the insurgancy?
20. Andy said...
Damn Right
Money is no different to religion -
Religion administers control - Spending Power
Religion administers fear - Debt and Poverty
Religion installs Trust and Belief - Worth
Religion installs the Antigod - Fraud and Rip off
Relgion is the heart of the community - Local Bank
God is everywhere - Everything has a cost.
Don't blaspheme money else you will all burn in hell!! - In god we trust, else you will live your life in unescapable debt.
21. paul said...
I'm always telling off kids on the bus for not using more foul language.
When I was a nipper I had a mouth like a potty. Things aren't what they used to be, yer know.
Oh, the article? Well it's partisan claptrap really. He talks about the "True Path"? And whose path might that be? Oh, yours? Right I see. This is as bad as Noshbag Smith's diatribes on how well the economy is doing.