There is a world of difference between the correct assignment of culpability and you finding it amusing that someone has lost his hand in an accident. By the way, have you never had an accident? Have you never made a mistake – ever? Are you perfect?

Fire and stoning. Good solid simple down to earth protest mechanisms.

I bet the Pakistanis don't fill in a form to be able to ask if they can stand outside parliament with a placard.

A couple of litres of unleaded, a Zippo and a pocketful of skimmers would have the banking system on its knees before lunch.

[quote name='JohnnyB' date='Jul 17 2008, 02:51 PM' post='1218719']
Or perhaps its because people in London seem to think they can cross the road anywhere and at any time. I'm just giving them a genrle reminder that such behaiour could get them seriously hurt.
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Absolutely. Londoners, eh? Thinking they can cwoss the woad anywhere and at any time. Such behaviour is thowoughly wepwehensible and disgusting.

Johny B, keep posting. You crack me up.

Of course I have had an accident, but you still seem to working on assumption that I first said I would find it amusing if somone got run over because they weren't looking. I never actually said this, simply that they can't blame anyone but themselves for their own misfortune. I had quite a bad accident when I wasn't paying enough attention and hit a car that was stopping infront of me. I broke my arm and chipped a tooth, but guess what, I realised it was my fault, and I didn't attempt to stone the car driver, or the guy who built the road, or sue the council for putting traffic lights there. I'm just saying these people should accept resonsibility.

I'm going to run you both over for being such a pair of pussies.

Did everyone laugh at you?

Maybe, I was somewhat dazed, but the woman driving the car was very nice and called me an ambulance.

Yes these people are funny because their actions are inappropriate

On first glance I read this as they banned shooting on 23 June. That would explain the stoning.

And then I re-read it.

Q

she shoulda stuck the nut in you
and called you a vvanker

- Winston Churchill

http://ingmarweber.wordpress.com/2008/01/0...ified-yourself/



I think you should correct the quote. Very valid but Churchill didn't say it.

Interesting how much vitriol is being displayed by the pious ones.

Ahh.. but they hav the moral high ground because I said people making crap investments and losing their cash was amusing. Which obviously equates to having a good old belly laugh at the Holocaust.

you don't do humour on here ?

Oh sorry! It was humour?

Indeed. Hard to have a rational argument with irrational people. I'm still trying to work out what trying to justify a mob rioting (because prices go up as well as down) has to do with you crashing your car

I guess it's a decade of Labour Goverment for you; 90% of the population have a streak of the victim in them now.

Very hard, yet I can't stop myself from arguing with Creationists on Facebook.

That really is pi$$ing in the wind.

People who live in glass houses...

So its OK to laugh at the BTL brigade when they lose al their money but not shareholders?

Their God is better than your God...

I think both are hilarious.

BTL is slightly more hilarious, but only because they lost money they didn't have in the first place.

Can you lose money you didn't really have?

The banks have managed to do it as well.

Let's just get this thread back on topic, shall we?

Where can I obtain one of these Donkeys?

Am I missing something here? Why is it rational to find someone else's misfortune amusing when you know nothing about them?

Did they manage to kill it?

(The SE, that is, not the donkey or whatever).

humour.... its a funny old thing

Look...

I have spent many years on BTL websites, arguing with people there. Some of those that I was talking to will undoubtedly be ruined financially. Is that something desirable? No. Is it amusing? No.

But I do know something about them. I know they invested in stocks and shares and didn't expect them to go down.

could be, but its the way they tell em that counts.

for example, did you hear the one about the BTLr who lost all in the housing market?..... punch line

or, there was a sad story about a man lost everything through poor investment advice..... ah sad

Lol, gets in, logs on to HPC and spits tea out over monitor. This place is the place for one liners

No, this happens to me all the time, and I'm a seriously experienced and skilled cyclist. People a) dont seem to realise that a bike can easily be doing 20-30 mph and b ) dont seem to think that 85 kilos of me plus another 10-20 kilos of sharp, pointy metal bike bits hitting them at this speed is going to hurt. I've no idea why they think this, beyond the obvious, and oft stated on here, 'most people are too stupid to find their own a-holes without help.' But there you go.

Funny you should say that. The Venetians and Catalans took dodgy bankers and brokers very seriously indeed:



In the light of all that's gone on lately, perhaps having such a sanction might have served to keep the Applegarths of this world in line. Do you think that sort of legislation might be introduced retrospectively, as with car tax? Could it possibly apply to (ex-) chancellors also?

Perhaps the Pakistanis have the right idea.

(from Peter Spufford, Power and Profit: The Merchant in Medieval Europe, London, Thames & Hudson, 2002 - a wonderful read, by the way)

EDM

You work in the financial sector I believe, a system that creates winners and losers. Is your level of distaste at JohnnyB's comments not just a little hypocritical?

Surely everyone in your sector goes into work knowing that they'll be royally screwing somebody that day?

Step this way, sir.

I have several very rare Velvet-Tongue Donkeys from Aberystwyth.

I also have one exquisite Rasp-Tongue from Aberaeron.

£300 each.

Optional custom built mouth speculae for £30,000

Why, they sound perfect! I had looked at the cheaper option of adopting one, but that's a little too Woody Allen for my tastes.

Of course the 30k is just for the basic option mouth speculum, and just between you and me, they're having a problem with the design of the mechanism, apparently it can snap shut unexpectedly. Might I suggest the slightly more luxurious reliable version for the discerning gentleman at £60k?

60K, you say? That would eat up most of my deposit.

Apparently the Chinese have built their own investment bubble.....

What will happen when the China bubble bursts

There are crooks in the business, but none of the rest of us try to screw anyone.

As for winners and losers, they are not equal because it is not a zero-sum game, but yes there are winners and losers every day. But it isn't normally amusing if someone loses a load of money, and much less so if they are ruined. Fine, it was their fault and no one else's - but funny? No, not in the slightest.

May I respectfully suggest, sir, that without one, you may find your deposit eaten up rather more quickly.

I was alluding more to the way that the argument had been twisted into something totally different - ie. People losing money on the stockmarket somehow being compared to laughing at people in car accidents.

I have no sympathy whatsoever for people losing money on the stockmarket, just as I have never expected sympathy myself when I have lost money. If people believe markets are a one way bet and can only go up, then they are stupid. Rioting about it appears to prove the point. I find it amusing that people can be so stupid. So do some others. So what? This doesn't make us nazis.

As somebody else pointed out, this board has been laughing their collective t1ts off at BTLers being destroyed in a big way. I see little difference. Anybody stupid enough to buy a two bed brand new flat in August 2007 for £300k is so stupid that they cannot complain when they are laughed at by more sane people. In the same way, neither can people who think shares only go up.

Much of the thread appeared to me to be defending rioting/destruction of property. Now, I'm all in favour of a bit of argy bargy but only when it's justified. The markets moving against you does not justify violence in any way.

You are Les Dawson and I claim my £5, or was it your £5.

Deadpan- the best of humours!

Have you noticed that's its generally clumsy people that ask this.

Stupid people are funny. Just spend 5 mins on Youtube if you want proof.

These twits happen to be Pakistan but it would be just as funny if they were, say failed Leeds flat / Florida condo flippers.

There's nothing wrong with laughing at people who are the architects of their own downfall.

Equally, its totally wrong to laugh at innocent victims. But they aren't, are they?

Can you go back to your previous avatar please? This one does absolutely nothing for you

yeah, get one like Injins!!!

Ah! So you admit that although not normally amusing, it can be amusing at times. This seems a reasonable compromise to me and would depend on who it happened to:

Yourself - not amusing.
Person who riots about it - amusing.
Labour voter - amusing in the extreme.
Cute girl - depends on the size of her t1ts.

Would you lot bugger off this thread?

I'm trying to sell this respectable looking bloke a donkey.

Absolutely, indeed, I am losing quite a bit of money, probably as we speak, on the stock market, but it was, at least, my hard-earned to lose, rather than something I'd borrowed of someone else (as would be the case for most 'property investors'). And I dont expect bailing out.

Q: What sort of idiot borrows enormously, to the value of their anticipated lifetime earnings, to make a speculative investment in the markets?

A: Only a BTLer would be this much of an idiot, and this is why we mock them so.....

Then sir, we have a deal - I'll be round with a bankers draft in the morning.

Disclaimer for all other HPC Members

I have agreed to make this purchase only after taking the professional advice proffered by the good doctor, albeit that he is the very fellow who wishes to make the sale. Therefore, I do not expect to be derided by members of this otherwise respectable forum, should my donkey turn out to be worth less than I paid for it, on account of it having developed some freak genetic condition such as a nut allergy.

I thank you all in anticipation of your empathy.