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Financial Planner
At this point I'll be on but TBC

Should be on satellite - can someone please tell us they'll digitally record it and make it available on the site?

Edited to say - as the computer on Blakes Seven would say - 'Confirmed!' Who remembers B7?

Newsnight Scotland 03.07.08 Lasts c 20 minutes
Barra
QUOTE (Financial Planner @ Jul 3 2008, 02:24 PM) *
At this point I'll be on but TBC

Should be on satellite - can someone please tell us they'll digitally record it and make it available on the site?


I will be watching with great interest
sorry I cannot help with the recording

the denial phase is alive and well
I cannot see Scotland being exempt unless they build that wall again
and quickly
hope you have plenty ammo, (I'm sure you have)

SoreHeadBear
QUOTE (Financial Planner @ Jul 3 2008, 03:24 PM) *
At this point I'll be on but TBC

Should be on satellite - can someone please tell us they'll digitally record it and make it available on the site?


BBC iPlayer usually has the Scottish edition of Newsnight separately listed - I think the programmes are usually available about an hour after broadcast.
crown
QUOTE (Financial Planner @ Jul 3 2008, 03:24 PM) *
At this point I'll be on but TBC

Should be on satellite - can someone please tell us they'll digitally record it and make it available on the site?


i'll sky+ it and I should have it up by 8am
garybug
Good luck FP rolleyes.gif

BTW, BBC2 Scotland is available in Sky channel 990.
bobthe~
QUOTE (garybug @ Jul 3 2008, 04:34 PM) *
Good luck FP rolleyes.gif

BTW, BBC2 Scotland is available in Sky channel 990.

not the most interesting of the "900 series" of channels though. wink.gif
Little Professor
It'l be on after 11pm - BBC Scotland shows the English version of Newsnight for the first half hour, and then opts out for the last 20 mins to do its own thing.

Although, with all the news about the leaders of the Scottish Lib Dems and Labour resigning, are you sure your segment won't get bumped in favour of coverage of this instead?
Little Professor
QUOTE (crown @ Jul 3 2008, 04:06 PM) *
i'll sky+ it and I should have it up by 8am


Just out of interest - how do you manage to get stuff from your Sky+ on to your computer?
Financial Planner
QUOTE (crown @ Jul 3 2008, 04:06 PM) *
i'll sky+ it and I should have it up by 8am

Many thx Crown

BTW - do you know why the Declan thing is no longer on YouTube?
crown
QUOTE (Financial Planner @ Jul 3 2008, 05:18 PM) *
Many thx Crown

BTW - do you know why the Declan thing is no longer on YouTube?


It's still up there FP - I just watched it again!

http://thecrownblogspot.blogspot.com/2008/...e-falls-in.html
crown
QUOTE (Little Professor @ Jul 3 2008, 05:00 PM) *
Just out of interest - how do you manage to get stuff from your Sky+ on to your computer?


an Adaptec capture thingy - I should invest in some better software though to make the movie
zceb90
QUOTE (Little Professor @ Jul 3 2008, 05:00 PM) *
Just out of interest - how do you manage to get stuff from your Sky+ on to your computer?

Sky+ has a scart socket to which I've a DVD recorder connected. The way I'd do it is to copy (or record live via the 'line' option) from Sky+ to a DVD-RW disc and then load same in DVD slot of PC and copy the resulting file. I'm sure there are more direct ways to transfer to PC but I have to use an intermediate step as PC is not in same building as Sky+ box.

Btw I don't need Sky+ for this program as can receive BBC Scotland via Freeview. If someone could suggest where I could upload the resulting file to maybe I could try a recording tonight.
Financial Planner
QUOTE (crown @ Jul 3 2008, 05:42 PM) *
It's still up there FP - I just watched it again!

http://thecrownblogspot.blogspot.com/2008/...e-falls-in.html

But when I go to YouTube direct to watch it, it's no longer available. unsure.gif
garybug
QUOTE (bobthe~ @ Jul 3 2008, 04:58 PM) *
not the most interesting of the "900 series" of channels though. wink.gif


How do you think I found it? wink.gif wink.gif wink.gif
Little Professor
QUOTE (Financial Planner @ Jul 3 2008, 06:43 PM) *
But when I go to YouTube direct to watch it, it's no longer available. unsure.gif


It's still there for me. Something wrong with your comp?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MSWeP4nYjeo
bobthe~
QUOTE (garybug @ Jul 3 2008, 07:08 PM) *
How do you think I found it? wink.gif wink.gif wink.gif

laugh.gif
crown
QUOTE (Financial Planner @ Jul 3 2008, 06:43 PM) *
But when I go to YouTube direct to watch it, it's no longer available. unsure.gif


Maybe google have dobbed you in to the FEDS

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7488009.stm
tinker
FP, if we don't hear from you for 42 days we'll 'know' where you are!

Have you ever considered or been considered for the Question Time panel?
W12
Wow! I've never seen the seamless opt-in to Newsnight Scotland before.... And now I know where the Gordon Brewer went to.....

The action begins.....



After 90 seconds, I'm almost deafened by the growling bearish tone.....
garybug
FP on now...
W12
Crap lighting, crap framing, FP. Bloody BBC (Essex).

You're talking sense though......
The Conveyancer
Are there only four of us still awake?
W12
I can only count two.
winkie
Didn't even have to look at the screen, just heard the voice and I knew he was on. wink.gif
geed
Excellent FP, I didn't realise you wer on tonight. The other two on the the panel were flaccid beyond beleif. They back their arguments up with nothing, absolutely nothing.

Thanks FP for articulately and forcefully putting your factual evidence for a crash accross to the people of Scotland, perhaps they will f*cking wake up now.

Looks a little quiet in the office wink.gif
W12
Nationalising housing stock seems a bit dramatic, FP........


Radge
Well done, FP and thanks for the mention of Embra - anything to help burst Scotia's biggest bubble helps. I think we can safely say you came across best of the 3: The EA did his best to ramp as expected and the Prof didn't come across well at all.

Edit: change pr1ck to burst, I didn't think pr1ck was a rude word?
maranello
QUOTE (W12 @ Jul 3 2008, 11:19 PM) *
Nationalising housing stock seems a bit dramatic, FP........


100% mortgage from the bank of Ireland just so long as your parents put their pension fund up as collateral!
way to go - NOT
ccc
Good work.

Gordon Brewer is a bit of a realist which is good.

I know I am biased - but I am certain if I was watching that from a 'novice' point of view I would only think two people out of the 4 had a real clue what was going on.

FP and Brewer. You clearly knew what you were talking about and Brewer was the neutral who seemed to have a bit of common sense and understanding.

The other 2 seemed to be simply hoping 'Scotland was different' and not much else. Nice. wink.gif
lovelyhead
Brilliant stuff FP! You annihilated the two other guests.

I wonder if the estate agent really believes the nonsense he was spouting about how parents should be guarantors to the tune of 20%?! Here's a simple idea for him. How about house prices fall to a level where people can actually afford to buy them without signing your life away to pay off a UK slave box?

That is the first time I have heard anyone on TV dispelling the myth that Scotland will be immune to any falls in house prices. About time too.

Thanks for taking the time to go on these programmes FP. It's much appreciated.
notrich
As Iam not in UK and so the programme isn't available. I am from Scotland and would love to see it can someone put it up on you tube.
needle
I havent been convinced by your performances in the past FP but, in fairness, that was much improved.

Well done.


Little Professor
QUOTE (notrich @ Jul 4 2008, 01:38 AM) *
As Iam not in UK and so the programme isn't available. I am from Scotland and would love to see it can someone put it up on you tube.


Crown is putting it on youtube mané.

It's already up on iPlayer:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/item/b00...on_pid=b00ccfr4
Little Professor
"My forecasts have been very accurate since I started making them last year"

Naughty, naughty, FP wink.gif

Great performance, though.
crown
If everyone can see it on iplayer - I won't bother putting it on youtube. Unless anyone wants it on youtube
notrich
QUOTE (crown @ Jul 4 2008, 08:22 AM) *
If everyone can see it on iplayer - I won't bother putting it on youtube. Unless anyone wants it on youtube


Yes please I can't watch via BBC ipod as I am not in UK.
sign_of_the_times
good performance again FP, I can no longer hold you to account for being Scottish wink.gif

I wonder how the scottish system (binding bids) will affect their market? presumably if you dont have the cash to buy (or not sold your existing property) you can't bid ??
eastleighfan
QUOTE (notrich @ Jul 4 2008, 06:34 AM) *
Yes please I can't watch via BBC ipod as I am not in UK.



Is there a "you tube " channel for all these little "bits and pieces" ? It would be handy if there was one , maybe with a link pinned to the top of the message boards ?

Top marks FP , another superb performance !


Bearfacts
First Class FP - well done. I have a feeling you will be much in demand in the coming months / years and deservedly so. You were clearly the best informed as usual.


P.S I imagine you are not very popular with the VIs - do you get hate mail / menacing calls ?!
aliveandkicking
Unfortunately the iplayer has a restriction that prevents none uk based people from seeing the video.

It would easier if the videos were available under a channel in utube that grouped them under the one user name.


shindigger
QUOTE (lovelyhead @ Jul 4 2008, 12:55 AM) *
Brilliant stuff FP! You annihilated the two other guests.

I wonder if the estate agent really believes the nonsense he was spouting about how parents should be guarantors to the tune of 20%?! Here's a simple idea for him. How about house prices fall to a level where people can actually afford to buy them without signing your life away to pay off a UK slave box?

That is the first time I have heard anyone on TV dispelling the myth that Scotland will be immune to any falls in house prices. About time too.

Thanks for taking the time to go on these programmes FP. It's much appreciated.



He referred to his estate agency business as a "practice" laugh.gif i stopped taking him seriously at that point.
Typical EA delusion.
Financial Planner
QUOTE (Bearfacts @ Jul 4 2008, 08:50 AM) *
I imagine you are not very popular with the VIs - do you get hate mail / menacing calls ?!

I had an email from a so-called financial adviser. I told him to read The Economist and visit Florida.
bobthe~
QUOTE (Financial Planner @ Jul 4 2008, 10:45 AM) *
I had an email from a so-called financial adviser. I told him to read The Economist and visit Florida.

laugh.gif
Actually we are visiting Florida in the Summer, and we don't need the economist, we are here. smile.gif

Great job FP.

I can't believe that a professor of economics was spouting Supply and Demand.
I thought the point of supply and demand was that it described the means of getting to an equilibrium price, i.e. in a shortage the price goes up to the point where only people with enough money can afford to buy.
but it seems to have been hi-jacked to mean that prices will always go up no matter what. dry.gif

Of course I am no professor.

I also noticed a different tack from the interviewer, as he came to you for opinion rather than to attack your views, and was rather dismissive of the EA guy.

FP, you were the expert on that panel, not the "nutter".

Well done again.
The Masked Tulip
Excellent!
ccc
QUOTE (bobthe~ @ Jul 4 2008, 10:55 AM) *
I also noticed a different tack from the interviewer, as he came to you for opinion rather than to attack your views, and was rather dismissive of the EA guy.

FP, you were the expert on that panel, not the "nutter".


I noticed that as well. I also noticed it on BBC Breakfast earlier in the week. It was not so obvious as clearly Declan has a certain agenda but still he wasn't dismissive of your ideas. All FP has to do is stay calm and know his stuff and he will become the 'talking head' of choice for property related discussions.

As long as FP doesn't slide into some kind of *arrogant 'I know it all' Kirsty Allsop persona I reckon most of the public will really listen to what he has to say. This is a good thing. A bit of reality is welcome in this nation.

* Not saying this will happen - just pointing out it does happen a lot when people are proven correct. I am sure FP will keep it sane and low key. wink.gif
sinclair
Just to say very well done FP - you gave a very convincing argument as to why Scotland isn't immune to the crash - I know journalists on The Scotsman who still won't hear of this!
The other pair were like rabbits in the headlights - giving very woolly answers.
Very impressed with Gordon Brewers' handling of the debate too.
Well done!
Financial Planner
QUOTE (ccc @ Jul 4 2008, 12:05 PM) *
I am sure FP will keep it sane and low key. wink.gif

If there are ever any 'impartial' economists spouting sh1te, I'll get stuck in. VIs are to be expected and the viewers take with large salt pinches. But not the 'impartial' ones.
zceb90
QUOTE (Financial Planner @ Jul 4 2008, 12:41 AM) *

In the past Newsnight Scotland has only been avail on iplayer for 24hrs; it's also blocked outside UK. As I can receive prog on Freeview I watched last night.

V good point re leverage on bank loans i.e. $400bn bad debts = $4 trillion less to lend. I'm not even sure it will end there as a combination of falling house prices and recession will bring lots more mortgages 'under water' in both US and UK in turn leading to further bad debts.

US and UK are in further trouble re trade balances. US oil imports currently cost $700bn pa and recent report estimated UK energy imports during 5 year period 2008 - 2013 at $500bn. I doubt either country can maintain currency outflows on this scale for long and even if they could interest rates would have to rise to attract foreign currency. Outflows of currency on this scale combined with rising interest rates means recession.

The alternative, of course, is for currency outflows to be minimised in which case requisite energy imports simply won't show up. That in turn means recession. Either way I don't see how the housing market in both US and UK can avoid falls in the order of 40% as FP referred to...and it may well go lower than that.
ccc
QUOTE (Financial Planner @ Jul 4 2008, 02:33 PM) *
If there are ever any 'impartial' economists spouting sh1te, I'll get stuck in. VIs are to be expected and the viewers take with large salt pinches. But not the 'impartial' ones.


Indeed. When I heard the others anounced last night I though great we have an economist who clearly must know the score. Very wrong.

What really annoys me about Scotland is the constant referel to the fact Scotland has 'traditionally' had no boom and bust or peaks and troughs like England - So therefore we won't have the same bust that England is having. (This impartial 'expert' was spouting this last night)

That would make sense except we have just had a massive boom in Scotland !!!

For years they have been telling everyone that 'Scotland property market is booming', 'Edinburgh is now the 5th most expensive place to live in the UK', 'Irvine is the property hotspot for entire UK in 2006' etc...

Now they are trying to tell us that this boom never actually happened - so no need to worry about a bust !! It is ridiculous. !!

Many have this notion that Scotland is in some way still 'affordable'. There seems to be this viewpoint that everyone in England has to pay Chelsea, 500k, prices for small one bed flats. The reality is that many places in Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Ayrshire) are some of the most overvalued in the entire UK. Many places in England are far mroe affordable than many parts of Scotland.

This Scottish delusion must end !!

PS - I am from Edinburgh so I hear this drivel all the time. Cracks are finally showing through however.... wink.gif
shindigger
QUOTE (zceb90 @ Jul 4 2008, 02:44 PM) *
In the past Newsnight Scotland has only been avail on iplayer for 24hrs; it's also blocked outside UK. As I can receive prog on Freeview I watched last night.

V good point re leverage on bank loans i.e. $400bn bad debts = $4 trillion less to lend. I'm not even sure it will end there as a combination of falling house prices and recession will bring lots more mortgages 'under water' in both US and UK in turn leading to further bad debts.

US and UK are in further trouble re trade balances. US oil imports currently cost $700bn pa and recent report estimated UK energy imports during 5 year period 2008 - 2013 at $500bn. I doubt either country can maintain currency outflows on this scale for long and even if they could interest rates would have to rise to attract foreign currency. Outflows of currency on this scale combined with rising interest rates means recession.

The alternative, of course, is for currency outflows to be minimised in which case requisite energy imports simply won't show up. That in turn means recession. Either way I don't see how the housing market in both US and UK can avoid falls in the order of 40% as FP referred to...and it may well go lower than that.



Energy costs could mean 5-6 people to a 3 bed house easliy. Ergo we have enough houses/ flats.
Ergo, speaking as a 42 year old, i dont think i'll see house prices return to 07 levels in my lifetime.
Our whole way of life is about to fundamentally shift. Theres practically a whole generation who have got in to work expecting their humdrum existences to be brightened, temporarily, by the unearned, unsaved, gotten gains of mewing.(Holidays, plasmas etc) The psychological impact of this new reality could very damaging for thousands of people.
When in truth, they should be counting themselves lucky to even have a job.
Expect another 50 Bridgends coming to a town near you.
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