Hi All,
I have been doing some research on the Brazil market, and it looks like it is going to be my next investment, especially areas like Natal, Maracajau. Why?
They call Maracajaú has being dubbed the Caribbean of the Rio Grande do Norte. Its beaches are with crystalline water, sea-front coconut groves, white sand dunes and a large coral reef a few kilometers from the coastline.
Also, the new Sao Gonzalo Do Amarante Airport being built near by, the works of which are due to be completed by the year 2009, is foreseen to be the biggest commercial airport in Latin America and the fourth largest in the world.
This is an emerging location, and there are major developments in the pipeline in the area.
Is location this a sure winner for a sound investment?
Wondering if anyone has thought about investing or have already purchased in this area? What are your thoughts?
Cheers,
AI
Full Version: Brazil - Natal, Maracajaú
I think Brazil is a great money making facility for developers but I wouldn't buy there.
2% of the population have money, the rest don't. Spells trouble in my eyes.
You'd be better off buying a piece of land and developing it yourself and cash in on the foreign buyers.
2% of the population have money, the rest don't. Spells trouble in my eyes.
You'd be better off buying a piece of land and developing it yourself and cash in on the foreign buyers.
The trick is to spot the really good micro locations within any nation. Try and buy beachfront property in the best locations in the Bahamas for example and you will need millions, yet when that nation was just emmerging as a tourism hotspot these same properties would have been within the reach of many of us.
I actualy did spot one of these micro locations once and then pulled out. Worst decision I ever made.
For us Europeans there are markets a lot closer to home to exploit so many of us will mop up profits on our doorstep first.
QUOTE(dogbox @ Mar 19 2007, 05:33 PM) [snapback]582316[/snapback]
The trick is to spot the really good micro locations within any nation. Try and buy beachfront property in the best locations in the Bahamas for example and you will need millions, yet when that nation was just emmerging as a tourism hotspot these same properties would have been within the reach of many of us.
I actualy did spot one of these micro locations once and then pulled out. Worst decision I ever made.
For us Europeans there are markets a lot closer to home to exploit so many of us will mop up profits on our doorstep first.
I actualy did spot one of these micro locations once and then pulled out. Worst decision I ever made.
For us Europeans there are markets a lot closer to home to exploit so many of us will mop up profits on our doorstep first.
Hi Dogbox,
Micro location? hmmm. Well, this location also seems like a Micro location because it is emerging and is becomming a very popular tourist destination as more flights from uk and us are created. Dont you think so?
Find it quite bizzare how this location displays all factors that shows positive growth, but no one is investing in this forum. in the following development, it is nearly all sold out within months.
http://www.brazilianhomes.com/
QUOTE(AustralianInvestor @ Mar 20 2007, 07:24 AM) [snapback]582715[/snapback]
Hi Dogbox,
Micro location? hmmm. Well, this location also seems like a Micro location because it is emerging and is becomming a very popular tourist destination as more flights from uk and us are created. Dont you think so?
Find it quite bizzare how this location displays all factors that shows positive growth, but no one is investing in this forum. in the following development, it is nearly all sold out within months.
http://www.brazilianhomes.com/
Micro location? hmmm. Well, this location also seems like a Micro location because it is emerging and is becomming a very popular tourist destination as more flights from uk and us are created. Dont you think so?
Find it quite bizzare how this location displays all factors that shows positive growth, but no one is investing in this forum. in the following development, it is nearly all sold out within months.
http://www.brazilianhomes.com/
Ive just reserved a plot of land in Natal.
I now await the legal issues to be ironed - out.
A poster above says 2% of the population has money which spells trouble. I disagree completely. Jamaica and other prime tourism islands had desperatly poor general population yet this hasnt stopped prime beach front property changing hands for millions.
I spent time in the Bahamas. On Exuma the population is poverty stricken yet prime plots again change hands for millions.
Furthermore Brazil is one of the BRICS economies and expected to become one of the most important economies on the planet so it is certain the general population will get richer.
Lets suppose you are right and assume the 2% rich will retain all the wealth. Thats still a lot of people wanting prime property. Add this together with the large influx of foreigners seeking a carribean dream without a caribbean price tag and hey presto you get a boom.
Take the example of ROATAN a group of islands off Honduras (one of poorest nations on earth - far poorer than Brazil) - here a real estate drive began about 8 years ago in this hitherto banana republic. Very quickly the prime beachfront plots were snapped - up and now changed hands for hundreds of thousands of dollars. 'A home in the sun' filmed here 3 years ago and even by then all the prime plots were extremely expensive.
Now Ive found a prime plot in Brazil for under £40000.....mmmmmm......................
QUOTE(dogbox @ Mar 27 2007, 09:43 AM) [snapback]589927[/snapback]
Ive just reserved a plot of land in Natal.
I now await the legal issues to be ironed - out.
A poster above says 2% of the population has money which spells trouble. I disagree completely. Jamaica and other prime tourism islands had desperatly poor general population yet this hasnt stopped prime beach front property changing hands for millions.
I spent time in the Bahamas. On Exuma the population is poverty stricken yet prime plots again change hands for millions.
Furthermore Brazil is one of the BRICS economies and expected to become one of the most important economies on the planet so it is certain the general population will get richer.
Lets suppose you are right and assume the 2% rich will retain all the wealth. Thats still a lot of people wanting prime property. Add this together with the large influx of foreigners seeking a carribean dream without a caribbean price tag and hey presto you get a boom.
Take the example of ROATAN a group of islands off Honduras (one of poorest nations on earth - far poorer than Brazil) - here a real estate drive began about 8 years ago in this hitherto banana republic. Very quickly the prime beachfront plots were snapped - up and now changed hands for hundreds of thousands of dollars. 'A home in the sun' filmed here 3 years ago and even by then all the prime plots were extremely expensive.
Now Ive found a prime plot in Brazil for under £40000.....mmmmmm......................
I now await the legal issues to be ironed - out.
A poster above says 2% of the population has money which spells trouble. I disagree completely. Jamaica and other prime tourism islands had desperatly poor general population yet this hasnt stopped prime beach front property changing hands for millions.
I spent time in the Bahamas. On Exuma the population is poverty stricken yet prime plots again change hands for millions.
Furthermore Brazil is one of the BRICS economies and expected to become one of the most important economies on the planet so it is certain the general population will get richer.
Lets suppose you are right and assume the 2% rich will retain all the wealth. Thats still a lot of people wanting prime property. Add this together with the large influx of foreigners seeking a carribean dream without a caribbean price tag and hey presto you get a boom.
Take the example of ROATAN a group of islands off Honduras (one of poorest nations on earth - far poorer than Brazil) - here a real estate drive began about 8 years ago in this hitherto banana republic. Very quickly the prime beachfront plots were snapped - up and now changed hands for hundreds of thousands of dollars. 'A home in the sun' filmed here 3 years ago and even by then all the prime plots were extremely expensive.
Now Ive found a prime plot in Brazil for under £40000.....mmmmmm......................
I have found prime lots in Brazil for under £5000... I bought 3 of them already and I am planning to buy another 2. In a better location than Natal. Natal has already had some good years
of growth, the best deals can now be found to the North of Natal.
But it seems that we agree this time on the fact that Brazil is a good investment. Nevertheless, the best deals are to be found from the local people not from British sharks.
QUOTE(dogbox @ Mar 27 2007, 09:43 AM) [snapback]589927[/snapback]
Ive just reserved a plot of land in Natal.
I now await the legal issues to be ironed - out.
A poster above says 2% of the population has money which spells trouble. I disagree completely. Jamaica and other prime tourism islands had desperatly poor general population yet this hasnt stopped prime beach front property changing hands for millions.
I spent time in the Bahamas. On Exuma the population is poverty stricken yet prime plots again change hands for millions.
Furthermore Brazil is one of the BRICS economies and expected to become one of the most important economies on the planet so it is certain the general population will get richer.
Lets suppose you are right and assume the 2% rich will retain all the wealth. Thats still a lot of people wanting prime property. Add this together with the large influx of foreigners seeking a carribean dream without a caribbean price tag and hey presto you get a boom.
Take the example of ROATAN a group of islands off Honduras (one of poorest nations on earth - far poorer than Brazil) - here a real estate drive began about 8 years ago in this hitherto banana republic. Very quickly the prime beachfront plots were snapped - up and now changed hands for hundreds of thousands of dollars. 'A home in the sun' filmed here 3 years ago and even by then all the prime plots were extremely expensive.
Now Ive found a prime plot in Brazil for under £40000.....mmmmmm......................
I now await the legal issues to be ironed - out.
A poster above says 2% of the population has money which spells trouble. I disagree completely. Jamaica and other prime tourism islands had desperatly poor general population yet this hasnt stopped prime beach front property changing hands for millions.
I spent time in the Bahamas. On Exuma the population is poverty stricken yet prime plots again change hands for millions.
Furthermore Brazil is one of the BRICS economies and expected to become one of the most important economies on the planet so it is certain the general population will get richer.
Lets suppose you are right and assume the 2% rich will retain all the wealth. Thats still a lot of people wanting prime property. Add this together with the large influx of foreigners seeking a carribean dream without a caribbean price tag and hey presto you get a boom.
Take the example of ROATAN a group of islands off Honduras (one of poorest nations on earth - far poorer than Brazil) - here a real estate drive began about 8 years ago in this hitherto banana republic. Very quickly the prime beachfront plots were snapped - up and now changed hands for hundreds of thousands of dollars. 'A home in the sun' filmed here 3 years ago and even by then all the prime plots were extremely expensive.
Now Ive found a prime plot in Brazil for under £40000.....mmmmmm......................
Hi Dogbox,
May I ask at which development you purchased at? Or specify the website, so that I can do more research?
Cheers,
AI
QUOTE(AustralianInvestor @ Mar 27 2007, 02:07 PM) [snapback]590243[/snapback]
Hi Dogbox,
May I ask at which development you purchased at? Or specify the website, so that I can do more research?
Cheers,
AI
May I ask at which development you purchased at? Or specify the website, so that I can do more research?
Cheers,
AI
Look for example at
http://www.visaoempreendimentos.com.br/paraisocanoa.php
They have second line from the beach for £10000.
I purchased there 4 months ago when the prices were 30% lower.
QUOTE(catara @ Mar 27 2007, 01:14 PM) [snapback]590250[/snapback]
Look for example at
http://www.visaoempreendimentos.com.br/paraisocanoa.php
They have second line from the beach for £10000.
I purchased there 4 months ago when the prices were 30% lower.
http://www.visaoempreendimentos.com.br/paraisocanoa.php
They have second line from the beach for £10000.
I purchased there 4 months ago when the prices were 30% lower.
Hi Catara,
Thank you for the link. But its in Portugal or some other language:(
QUOTE(AustralianInvestor @ Mar 28 2007, 12:22 PM) [snapback]591223[/snapback]
Hi Catara,
Thank you for the link. But its in Portugal or some other language:(
Thank you for the link. But its in Portugal or some other language:(
There is an English translation if you press the British flag.
Catara
Im very interested. Could you give the exact details of the land you have invested in so that I may approach the agents knowing what Im talking about. For example the exact location. Ive been to the website and Im unsure where to start.
QUOTE(dogbox @ Mar 28 2007, 02:03 PM) [snapback]591391[/snapback]
Catara
Im very interested. Could you give the exact details of the land you have invested in so that I may approach the agents knowing what Im talking about. For example the exact location. Ive been to the website and Im unsure where to start.
Im very interested. Could you give the exact details of the land you have invested in so that I may approach the agents knowing what Im talking about. For example the exact location. Ive been to the website and Im unsure where to start.
Two agents who sell in Canoa Quebrada:
tage@boligbrasil.com (Riviera Canoa)
Paulo Lima
usdarpnlc@yahoo.com (Paraiso de Canoa)
Unfortunately prices went up quite a lot in Canoa Quebrada recently.
Catara and Dogbox,
Are you planning on sitting on your land for a few years or building on it yourself? If the latter, when do you propose starting? I am interested in Brazil, but the one thing that concerns me is finding the right area and whether to invest in off-plan or simply to bank land. Am I right in saying there is 2000+ k of coastline? Dogbox, have you been out there or simply done your research through the net? I would be very interested in learning more about how you have both gone about this, so any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.
Are you planning on sitting on your land for a few years or building on it yourself? If the latter, when do you propose starting? I am interested in Brazil, but the one thing that concerns me is finding the right area and whether to invest in off-plan or simply to bank land. Am I right in saying there is 2000+ k of coastline? Dogbox, have you been out there or simply done your research through the net? I would be very interested in learning more about how you have both gone about this, so any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.
QUOTE(Splat The Cat @ Apr 1 2007, 10:35 PM) [snapback]595427[/snapback]
Catara and Dogbox,
Are you planning on sitting on your land for a few years or building on it yourself? If the latter, when do you propose starting? I am interested in Brazil, but the one thing that concerns me is finding the right area and whether to invest in off-plan or simply to bank land. Am I right in saying there is 2000+ k of coastline? Dogbox, have you been out there or simply done your research through the net? I would be very interested in learning more about how you have both gone about this, so any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.
Are you planning on sitting on your land for a few years or building on it yourself? If the latter, when do you propose starting? I am interested in Brazil, but the one thing that concerns me is finding the right area and whether to invest in off-plan or simply to bank land. Am I right in saying there is 2000+ k of coastline? Dogbox, have you been out there or simply done your research through the net? I would be very interested in learning more about how you have both gone about this, so any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.
I am planning to build something for myself, my mother would also like to retire there.
So 2 of the parcels I bought will be used by me. The rest I am planning to sell after I decide where to build.
Ceara and Rio Grande del NOrte are the two areas I researched. Rio Grande del NOrte has had about 3 years of price rise, Ceara has started to grow more recently.
What kind of place do you like most: windy for kiting, calm for swimming, diving, with interesting rock formations?
QUOTE(catara @ Apr 1 2007, 10:43 PM) [snapback]595438[/snapback]
I am planning to build something for myself, my mother would also like to retire there.
So 2 of the parcels I bought will be used by me. The rest I am planning to sell after I decide where to build.
Ceara and Rio Grande del NOrte are the two areas I researched. Rio Grande del NOrte has had about 3 years of price rise, Ceara has started to grow more recently.
What kind of place do you like most: windy for kiting, calm for swimming, diving, with interesting rock formations?
So 2 of the parcels I bought will be used by me. The rest I am planning to sell after I decide where to build.
Ceara and Rio Grande del NOrte are the two areas I researched. Rio Grande del NOrte has had about 3 years of price rise, Ceara has started to grow more recently.
What kind of place do you like most: windy for kiting, calm for swimming, diving, with interesting rock formations?
Thanks for your reply. I keep getting involved in projects that a) tie up a fair bit of capital and
are places I would enjoy visiting, so take a long term view. What I need to start doing now is earning some MONEY, so it's probably less about what I want and more about how to go about it! I either want to buy something that I can sell again quite quickly or something with a high rental yield. My investments to date will hopefully bring both a capital gain and a good rental yield but not for many years yet and I can't keep putting myself in a situation where everything gets built at once and all I'm doing is subsidising rent. However I am in a position to invest..... Dogbox, what is your plan with your land? But in answer to your question, calm for swimming 
Hi Dogbox,
What agent did you buy your land from as I too am looking into buying land for investment in Braaaaaaaaaaaazzzzzzzzzzzil ??
What agent did you buy your land from as I too am looking into buying land for investment in Braaaaaaaaaaaazzzzzzzzzzzil ??
Hello All members,
I'm Paulo Lima, I'm the Real Estate Agent in Brazil.
My name and my e-mail had been mentioned in this forum before, if any of you will have interest in a great investment in Brazil, please let me know.
We have the best options in homes, apartments, flats, farms, beach-fronts, country-housing, hotels, and home complexes in states of the Ceará, Bahia and Natal (RN).
Please visit us:
http://www.brasilimoveis.cim.br (will be translated soon)
usdarpnlc@yahoo.com or brasilimoveis_ce@yahoo.com.br
I'm Paulo Lima, I'm the Real Estate Agent in Brazil.
My name and my e-mail had been mentioned in this forum before, if any of you will have interest in a great investment in Brazil, please let me know.
We have the best options in homes, apartments, flats, farms, beach-fronts, country-housing, hotels, and home complexes in states of the Ceará, Bahia and Natal (RN).
Please visit us:
http://www.brasilimoveis.cim.br (will be translated soon)
usdarpnlc@yahoo.com or brasilimoveis_ce@yahoo.com.br
QUOTE(catara @ Mar 28 2007, 11:18 AM) [snapback]591410[/snapback]
Two agents who sell in Canoa Quebrada:
tage@boligbrasil.com (Riviera Canoa)
Paulo Lima
usdarpnlc@yahoo.com (Paraiso de Canoa)
Unfortunately prices went up quite a lot in Canoa Quebrada recently.
tage@boligbrasil.com (Riviera Canoa)
Paulo Lima
usdarpnlc@yahoo.com (Paraiso de Canoa)
Unfortunately prices went up quite a lot in Canoa Quebrada recently.
Hello guys,
I'm Paulo Lima, I'm the Real Estate Agent in Brazil.
My name and my e-mail had been mentioned in this forum before, if any of you will have interest in a great investment in Brazil, please let me know.
We have the best options in homes, apartments, flats, farms, beach-fronts, country-housing, hotels, and home complexes in states of the Ceará, Bahia and Natal (RN).
Please visit us:
http://www.brasilimoveis.cim.br (will be translated soon)
usdarpnlc@yahoo.co or brasilimoveis_ce@yahoo.com.br
For anyone who has pre-reserved one of the maracajau plots on the beachfront, the last 2 checks by the agents solicitors are expected back from the local authorities on Monday, all other legal and land survey checks have come back 100% okay, clear title, taxes paid etc.
It looks like they are going to be a good investment, beachfront plots no matter where you are appreciate greatly over the years so hopefully we can get this completed soon.
I have read some of your posts on cheaper plots in Ceara but the economic and financial factors behind Rio Grande do Norte seem very strong to me.
I think the price of £35K is going to be seen as cheap in the future and the plot price has a long way to go.
I am going to sit on it for a year or two and maybe build and sell off then.
If this goes through okay they are negotiating on getting more plots on the frontline so I might get another, if anyone wants to look at the site its:
http://www.brazilpropertydevelopments.com
They seem ok and quite open and straight forward.
Amanda x
It looks like they are going to be a good investment, beachfront plots no matter where you are appreciate greatly over the years so hopefully we can get this completed soon.
I have read some of your posts on cheaper plots in Ceara but the economic and financial factors behind Rio Grande do Norte seem very strong to me.
I think the price of £35K is going to be seen as cheap in the future and the plot price has a long way to go.
I am going to sit on it for a year or two and maybe build and sell off then.
If this goes through okay they are negotiating on getting more plots on the frontline so I might get another, if anyone wants to look at the site its:
http://www.brazilpropertydevelopments.com
They seem ok and quite open and straight forward.
Amanda x
QUOTE(Amanda Darling @ May 10 2007, 05:38 PM) [snapback]633465[/snapback]
I have read some of your posts on cheaper plots in Ceara but the economic and financial factors behind Rio Grande do Norte seem very strong to me.
I think the price of £35K is going to be seen as cheap in the future and the plot price has a long way to go.
I am going to sit on it for a year or two and maybe build and sell off then.
Amanda x
I think the price of £35K is going to be seen as cheap in the future and the plot price has a long way to go.
I am going to sit on it for a year or two and maybe build and sell off then.
Amanda x
What makes you an expert on NE Brazil? To claim that Ceara has worse perspective that RG del NOrte requires lots of knowledge.
QUOTE(Amanda Darling @ May 10 2007, 05:38 PM) [snapback]633465[/snapback]
For anyone who has pre-reserved one of the maracajau plots on the beachfront, the last 2 checks by the agents solicitors are expected back from the local authorities on Monday, all other legal and land survey checks have come back 100% okay, clear title, taxes paid etc.
It looks like they are going to be a good investment, beachfront plots no matter where you are appreciate greatly over the years so hopefully we can get this completed soon.
I have read some of your posts on cheaper plots in Ceara but the economic and financial factors behind Rio Grande do Norte seem very strong to me.
I think the price of £35K is going to be seen as cheap in the future and the plot price has a long way to go.
I am going to sit on it for a year or two and maybe build and sell off then.
If this goes through okay they are negotiating on getting more plots on the frontline so I might get another, if anyone wants to look at the site its:
http://www.brazilpropertydevelopments.com
They seem ok and quite open and straight forward.
Amanda x
It looks like they are going to be a good investment, beachfront plots no matter where you are appreciate greatly over the years so hopefully we can get this completed soon.
I have read some of your posts on cheaper plots in Ceara but the economic and financial factors behind Rio Grande do Norte seem very strong to me.
I think the price of £35K is going to be seen as cheap in the future and the plot price has a long way to go.
I am going to sit on it for a year or two and maybe build and sell off then.
If this goes through okay they are negotiating on getting more plots on the frontline so I might get another, if anyone wants to look at the site its:
http://www.brazilpropertydevelopments.com
They seem ok and quite open and straight forward.
Amanda x
Amanda, have you been to see the area?
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