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DrBubb
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Prudent Bear's...: Credit Bubble Bulletin
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Financial Sense..: Broadcast
Housing Bubble..: AlwaysOn's Forum (drb###563)
Realty Times......: Articles & Local market conditions

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I am off to Boston tomorrow,
and plan to develop this thread further upon my return.

Meantime, I know from my readings, that prices are high, and look poised for a fall. But if, and I repeat if, there is a large drop in the currency over the next 1-2 years, the US may provide some good buying opportunties before the UK. So let's watch it.

Meantime, This worries me:
The reliance of the US economy on Refinancing:


"The prodigious increase in outstanding mortgages obviously helped keep consumer spending, and the general economy, far stronger than it would otherwise have been. Unfortunately, it has also increased the sensitivity of consumer spending to interest rates, and mortgage refinancing has perhaps become the most vulnerable part of this 4-year political cycle. The usual need to ‘clean house’ in the first and second years of the next cycle of any administration will be confronted by dangerously extended credit on all fronts, but particularly for extended house mortgages. High and still increasing home prices will consequently have a central role in how this cycle’s politically driven financial house cleaning plays out in the next 2 years. The whole credit system, as well as consumption, the strength of the economy, and the stock market, will be unusually vulnerable to a combination of a house price decline and higher rates."

Source: GMO article
DrBubb
Here are some charts: / charts UPDATED to end Oct.2004

I-shares: DJ's US Real Estate (IYR) ... daclyyay[de][pb55!d377,2][vc60][iUb14!La12,26,9]&pref=G]updateIYR


Philex Housing Sector Index ($HGX) ... daclyyay[de][pb55!d377,2][vc60][iUb14!La12,26,9]&pref=G


Standard&Pacific (SPF) California Housebuilder ...
daclyyay[de][pb55!d377,2][vc60][iUb14!La12,26,9]&pref=G]updateSPF


Resistance: ($62 -$45): 17x.628= 11.5 +45= $56.50 Resistance
DrBubb
I am writing this from Boston.
Signs of a slowdown abound in the US.

Prices are down 10% or so from the peak in Boston, and rents remain soft.

In Califormia, BusinessWeek reports that Pulte has cut many of its prices by 10%, and even as much as 20% for some! That is approaching CRASH territory
DrBubb
SIGNS of slowdown in Las Vegas / down as much as 35%

Housing bubble popping in Las Vegas: Pulte slashes prices 25%
Posted by: Admin on Saturday, October 16, 2004 - 03:44 AM GMT

According to an Oct. 5, 2004 Las Vegas Review-Journal article:
The region's second largest home builder, Pulte Homes, has cut its new home prices by 5 percent to 25 percent in recent days, reversing a trend of ballooning home prices and leaving at least one Denver-based real estate investor threatening legal action.
Pulte executives announced the cuts to counter a dramatic decline in foot traffic, which was off by as much as 35 percent at some of its 18 Las Vegas Valley subdivisions.

Company executives believe the decline is the result of inflated housing prices that have in part been driven by real estate investors seeking a healthy return on their money.

New home prices in the valley appreciated by 35 percent during the first eight months of this year, according to Home Builders Research. Over the past decade, the median price of a valley home has more than doubled while median household income has increased just 22 percent.

[...] Denver-area resident Ross King is furious about the Pulte Homes price cuts, which came less than two weeks after he closed on a 1,900-square-foot home in Henderson's Anthem master-planned community. King paid $498,000 for the house, which he bought as an investment. The same model now lists for $382,990 after costing as much as $516,990 in June.

source
DrBubb
Another excellent write-up from Doug Noland...

EXCERPT

"...unlike 1994, the Fed has these days convinced the marketplace that it will move at a very measured pace, with absolutely no intention of doing anything that would disrupt the markets. In short, the Fed has promised Ongoing Easy Liquidity and the markets are positioned for as much. And, yes, making such assurances incites leveraging and financial sector expansion – exacerbating Liquidity Excess. Yet there is no escaping the reality that Ongoing Easy Liquidity poses the greatest risk to financial stability and the soundness of our currency.

To wrap this up, I’ll return briefly to some theorizing. System Liquidity is today predominantly created through the process of financial leveraging. Speculative financial market returns are the driving force for monetary expansion, as opposed to financing investment in pursuit of true economic returns in the real economy. The great risk in this mechanism is that gross (“blow-off”) market excess can completely corrupt the market pricing mechanism with little hope for adjustment or self-regulation. Left to its own devices, such a maligned and dysfunctional system will self-destruct. The Fed has abandoned its responsibility for regulating an increasingly unwieldy Credit system, seemingly leaving the burden to our foreign Creditors. All the while, economic distortions and imbalances run deeper, financial fragility more acute, and unmanageable foreign liabilities more unmanageable. And as magical as today’s Ongoing Easy Liquidity appears to most market professionals, there is no avoiding the reality that it must end – one way or the other – to forestall a dollar collapse. "

Source: Credit Bubble Bulletin
DrBubb
Home Values Built on Rotten Foundations

- By Richard Benson
November 4, 2004
http://www.sfgroup.org

We have been gleaning facts "brick by brick" in order to write this story on the housing market and what it all means for Wall Street and the economy. The story is simple: While the Federal Reserve is slowly raising interest rates, it is our observation that the housing price bubble is already bursting of its own accord.

Let me begin with the sale of a property located a short distance away from our modest casa in Palm Beach, where the big houses have names. Casa Apava, an estate with ocean and lakefront land totaling 18 acres, is under contract for about $70 Million by its current owner, Ronald Perelman. This same property sold for $14.25 Million in 1987. If the sale goes through, it will be the largest residential real estate sale in United States' history. (In 2004, the property was assessed for $33.4 Million and taxes were a modest $664,000 a year, or $55,333 a month). Needless to say, the buyer is reported to be the chairman of NVR, Inc., the nation's eighth largest home builder. Clearly, selling homes at inflated prices to average Americans, who bought them using other people's money, has paid off handsomely for this buyer.

The size of the housing bubble should not be underestimated. In middle America, housing prices are up 44 percent over the past 5 years while in the momentum markets, such as Las Vegas and Southern California, annual "price pops" of 20 to 40 percent have commonly been recorded until just recently. Housing is big business. In 2004, about 8 million new and used homes will sell with a total transaction value of $1.9 to $2 Trillion. Mortgage debt will rise about $800 billion to $7.5 Trillion by the end of this year. The increase in mortgage debt represents the spending that the Bush Administration needed to keep a $12 Trillion economy moving forward.

The good news is that home ownership rose 2 percent to an all time record of 67.2; the bad news is what had to be done to get it there while the labor force participation rate has dropped 2 percent! In other words, easy credit and record low interest rates have boosted home sales. In previous economic cycles, the boost to home sales came from rising incomes and more jobs!

Easy mortgage credit has been fostered by new mortgage products. New types of mortgages have been introduced over the past couple of years that transfer interest rate risk from the financial institution (mortgage owner), to the borrower, while allowing the borrower to take out the largest possible mortgage. Long gone are the days when a borrower borrowed what was considered a safe, prudent amount that they could actually pay back. Today, the borrower takes every penny that lenders will lend. In turn, lenders have "gone crazy" because at the end of the day, the lender is not lending "his" money. The loans go to a GSE security, or into a rated mortgage security, which in turn is bought by a bank or Hedge Fund that is invested just for a short term in the "Cash and Carry Trade".

Today, the new mortgage lenders are offering various types of mortgages to keep mortgage volume and quick origination profits up. These mortgages include Adjustable Rate, Interest Only, 40-Year, and Piggy Back. A Piggy Back mortgage is a senior mortgage combined with a junior mortgage that can leave the borrower owing more than 110% of the cost of the house. Moreover, these lending tactics leave the borrower more than a bit stretched and short liquidity, so it is no surprise that new mortgages that allow the borrower to skip payments and add the interest to principal are becoming popular. What will lenders who don't lend their own money think of next?

If these new types of mortgages aren't good enough to stretch a consumer's buying capacity, a few years ago special charities sprang up to give a home buyer his 5% down payment. (Since a home builder was giving the charity their funds anyway, he could easily "give back" 5% of his 30% profit to charity. Clearly, charity starts at home!

On top of that, President Bush signed the "American Dream Down Payment Act of 2003". This legislation authorized $200 Million per year in down payment assistance to at least 40,000 low-income families. His goal was to increase the number of minority homeowners by at least 5.5 million before the end of the decade.

Under Federal Law, if you are a first time home buyer and your income is 20 percent less than the local medium income, your neighbor - the US taxpayer - will give you the greater of $10,000, or 6% of the cost of the home to buy it! Thus, sub-prime borrowers have influenced home ownership rates considerably.

However, there are some sobering facts about sub-prime borrowers. They are twice as likely to pick an ARM mortgage. (ARM mortgages are already 30% of new home loans and, as the Federal Reserve raises interest rates to normal levels, the monthly payment on an ARM will go up over 25 percent).

Moreover, sub-prime borrowers frequently refinance. Borrowers who refinance for cash-out are twice as likely to default as those who don't take cash out. Currently, 70 to 80 percent of sub-prime mortgages are debt consolidation loans which add credit card and other debt onto the house!

These sub-prime mortgages have a terrible record. At least 16 percent are delinquent or in foreclosure, and 4.6 percent are actually in foreclosure. The "funny money" down payment mortgages are worse, with defaults running close to 20 percent. The Federal Housing Administration, FHA, which insures these loans, says national FHA mortgage defaults are 11 percent, while in cities like Baltimore, Maryland and Queens, New York, the default rates for FHA loans are 21 percent and 25 percent. Perhaps more lenders could do what FNMA does with loans heading to default: Re-write half of them and call them "good". Remember, "A rolling loan gathers no loss."

Also, with the Fed making money free, and the government trying to give money to sub-prime borrowers regardless of their willingness or ability to pay, the private sector is trying to get back in the lead of "the easy money free for all". The FBI has reported that in the first 9 months of 2004, 12,100 complaints of suspicious activity in the mortgage market have been reported. Fraud hot spots include the usual suspect states such as Florida, California, and Nevada with honorable mention to Michigan, Illinois and Missouri. (At least this restores my pride in the Midwest). Moreover, the reported fraud would be higher except that i) most of the FBI are out looking for terrorists, and ii) fraud big enough to interest the FBI only includes something like the house or buyer not even existing.

Most mortgages written today have a bit of a fudge factor in the total honesty of income and net worth. Much information is excluded from debt and payment histories, and "appraisals are either wish or myth." Even the Mortgage Bankers Association recognizes that the home appraisal process is totally broken. In reality, with easy money allowing home prices to rise, fraud has become a way of life in the mortgage market because every participant makes a commission or fee if the mortgage closes. The higher the house price, the bigger the mortgage!

Looking back at the facts, it is easy to see that the foundation for housing prices is rotting fast. Buyers have stretched the truth, in every possible way, in order to buy the most expensive house for the lowest possible monthly payment. Given the fraudulent loan underwriting and emphasis on Adjustable Rate mortgages and sub-prime loans, it is clear that any rise in mortgage rates will bury housing.

At the high end of the housing market, there are reports of "Yuppie Fatigue". Super-sizing homes also super-sizes the heating and utility bills, insurance and maintenance costs. Those vaulted ceilings sure look nice, but watch out for the heating bill! Million dollar home foreclosures are picking up.

In the general housing market, 5 to 6 percent of homes already have more debt than home value, and homeowners are loading up with home equity loans and lines of credit. These home equity loans and lines will be up to $400 billion in 2004. Home equity can be spent, but as home prices stop going up, more and more homes will have "no equity left".

Currently, wages and salaries have not kept up with inflation despite "economic recovery"; bankruptcies will hit another all time record of over 1.6 million in 2004. Forty five percent of workers have total net assets of less than $25,000 (including the value of their house) and less than 4 of 10 workers save anything.

All of these facts were in place well before oil and natural gas prices headed north for the economic winter. Reasonable estimates show the average household bill for gas for the car and energy for the home will be $9,000 in 2005, up from $6,000 last year. Other costs of running a household would put people in the poorhouse, but it's too expensive to check in. This Christmas, Santa might skip homes that are draining their home equity.

Does housing always go up forever? In the United Kingdom where housing prices have soared like in America, prices fell last month. Real estate agents can't be found to talk about it, as it is bad for business. In San Diego, housing prices have been flat the last couple of months while the supply of homes for sale has jumped from a 2-month to an 8-month supply.

In Las Vegas there is an unfolding house price debacle. The national public has heard that the large developer, Pulte Homes, has cut new home prices by 8 to 25 percent, and 25 percent of new homes on order have just been cancelled. However, the public hasn't heard that i) 20 to 40 percent of sales in new planned unit developments were to speculators; ii) For-Rent signs in the complexes are everywhere. (To make some easy money on the flip, buyers of second and third homes planned to rent them out first); and, iii) Homes that sold for $750,000 just three months ago are across the street from homes that the same developer is selling today at a nice profit for $550,000. "The Las Vegas housing market has crapped out!"

In the United States, the supply of new homes has risen steadily to a 275 day supply. Six of the 14 largest home builders have debt-to-equity ratios of 95 percent, and home builders know exactly what the car companies know: "If you want to move inventory, cut the price!"

If home lenders would only read history they would know that from 1975 to 1995, on average home prices rose only 0.4% and with prices sagging now, they should ask for a larger down payment, and fast, or they will be facing big losses. In a market where housing prices are flat, it takes a 15 to 20 percent down payment to protect a lender against loss. The sales commission is 6% and REPO, carry, and marketing costs can run another 10% or more.

What would a rational down payment mean for housing prices? Today, a buyer who can scrape up $20,000 for a 5 percent down payment can afford a home priced at $400,000. If you ask him for a 10 percent down payment, he can suddenly only afford a home costing $200,000! Rational down payments will force housing prices down. Whatever you do, please do not share this observation with existing homeowners; they might want to sell before I have had a chance to follow up with Ron Perelman's example.


Richard Benson
President
Specialty Finance Group LLC
Member NASD/SIPC
www.sfgroup.org

Source: Kitco
Spoony
Very good Dr Bubb. Cheers for posting those, very informative.

I just found this article on the US property market crashing, also worth reading:

http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_04/maund050804.html

'Fundamentally, there are a wide variety of factors that are set to exacerbate the collapse in the property market. The most obvious of these is the rampant, credit fuelled, highly leveraged and now maxed-out speculation in property that is approaching its inevitable nemesis'

How accurate is this?
DrBubb
Top on US Builder stocks may be in

DrBubb
ANOTHER BUBBLE CALL...

Housing bubble is real, report says HSBC
Bank predicts a 'hard landing' by mid-2005. And regulators say too many homeowners are cashing out their equity to play the market.

By Reuters

Economists at HSBC have waded into the debate over whether the U.S. housing market is overinflated, declaring a bubble exists, something the Federal Reserve has long been reluctant to do.

Only days after the Federal Reserve Bank of New York said there was little evidence of a nationwide housing bubble, HSBC, a giant bank and financial services company, issued its assessment of the situation with a report titled, "The U.S. Housing Bubble -- The case for a home-brewed hangover." The bank insists that a bubble exists and prices are likely to deflate gradually over a few years, triggered by Federal Reserve interest rate rises.

"This bubble-psychology has manifested itself in very rich valuations,'' HSBC chief U.S. economist Ian Morris wrote.

House prices relative to income, rent, replacement-cost and home-equity have all set new highs, Morris said.Banks and insurers
check your credit.
So should you.



"Expectations of future house price appreciation are spectacularly, and unrealistically, high,'' he said.

The debate over whether a housing bubble exists has raged in recent years as prices have surged. But the Federal Reserve has often said it does not see a bubble.

Over the four years to the first quarter of 2004, official figures show house prices rose 33% nationally. Over the same period, prices in Washington, D.C., were up 70%, in California 60% and in New York and Florida 50%.

Cashing out to play the market
If anything, the trend has sped up. The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise and Oversight reported that prices as of Sept. 30 were 13% higher than a year earlier. Just weeks later, though, Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan sought to reassure lenders that the ride wasn't over.

"Improvements in lending practices driven by information technology have enabled lenders to reach out to households with previously unrecognized borrowing capacities," Greenspan told America's Community Bankers.

Stock brokers are apparently reaching out, too. Wednesday, the regulatory agency NASD warned that too many house-rich Americans are borrowing money against their homes to play the stock market.
...
Some economists worry that the run-up in housing prices in recent years has created a bubble similar to the stock market excesses of the late 1990s and could jeopardize the entire U.S. economy if prices fall sharply.

The 47-page HSBC report, issued in late June, said a "hard landing'' is typical after a housing bust because the wealth effects -- which can affect consumer spending -- from real estate are more powerful than from stocks.

"Prices are 10 to 20% too high and can overshoot on the way down,'' HSBC's Morris said, most likely deflating gradually over a few years rather than crashing like stocks.

"We think the party stops by mid-2005. A series of rate hikes will cause a reassessment of likely future house price risks and its associated debt, thereby triggering housing's fall.''

...HSBC Call on MSN
zzg113
DrB, that SFGroup article is absolutely mind-blowing. I think it shoud be pinned on the main discussion forum so everyone can see what an insane housing market REALLY looks like. (skipping mortgage payments and adding the interest to the principal....... ohmy.gif )
DrBubb
A LOOK BACK AT L.A.: lost 41%

"And right you are. That's why I am aware that this thing can draw out into 2007 or even 2009. It depends, too, on where your geographical location is. In Los Angeles for instance, Real Estate lost 41% in value from 1989 to 1997 by some records, but in other terms, 1993/5 was a low when the RTC finished dumping the majority of RE inventory after the failure of the FSLIC. So, we know that a Problem is brewing and it's just a matter of TIME."

Best To You Always, Jim D.
@:

Note:http://www.gmstechstreet.com/cgi-bin/webbbs_gmspublic.pl?read=51329
TRADERS on GMS
are talking alot about the impact of problems at FNM & FRE
DrBubb
Out-of date, but Intriguing

Home P/E ratios for 9 metro areas

=========== Avg. 1988-2000 : 2001
Boston.............. 20.5 ................30.2
San Diego......... 22.8 ................29.7
San Francisco.... 23.8 ................27.2
Los Angeles....... 21.3 ................25.6
Seattle.............. 20.4 ................25.0
Denver.............. 17.7 ................23.7
New York........... 21.2 ................22.5
Chicago............. 17.2 ................20.8
Washington, DC 17.1 ................20.4

Comments:
"Not everyone buys the idea that P/Es dictate value. But investors who completely ignore P/Es do so at their peril, as many have learned in recent years. Leamer, who heads the prestigious Anderson Forecast at the University of California in Los Angeles, points out that the P/E for the Standard & Poor’s 500, a key stock benchmark, was nearly double its previous historical high when the stock market bubble burst in 2000. When home P/Es peaked in California, Boston, Dallas and other markets in the mid-1980s, devastating real estate recessions followed.

Leamer didn’t invent the concept of P/Es for homes. But his willingness to proclaim bubbles in several of the nation’s hottest markets has brought him lots of attention recently.

To calculate P/Es for entire cities, Leamer divided the median home price in each by the annual rent for a two-bedroom unit in each city -- and looked at P/Es each year since 1988. Here’s what he found:

In Boston, the residential real estate market’s P/E recently topped 30 -- compared with just under 20 in 1988.
San Francisco’s previous peak of 25.6 in 1989 has been eclipsed, with the P/E currently at just over 27.
San Diego’s current P/E is nearly 30, compared with a 1989 high of 23.4.
New York, by contrast, is actually well below previous peaks. The area’s current 22.5 P/E is above its recent nadir of 17.6 in 1993, but down from 28.6 in 1988.
You don’t have to know exact P/Es, however, to spot signs of trouble, Leamer says. Any time there’s a disconnect between prices and the underlying value of homes, as measured by their market rents, there’s the potential for a bubble.

If home prices are rising much faster than rents, as is true in Los Angeles, that’s a strong indication a bubble is forming."

@: http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/Bankin...uide/P37631.asp
DrBubb
FRANKENSTEIN LIVES !
The Monster Bubble goes on growing - Collision Coming

...

Excerpt from J.Puplava's "Lull Before the Storm":
Real Estate Bubble Continues

Worse is the deterioration of underwriting standards in the mortgage markets. According to one underwriter “when money chases deals underwriting standards suffer." Last year interest only loans skyrocketed to make up more than 39% of all loans. That is up from 10% in 2002. Interest only loans are fine as long as real estate prices continue to rise or stay firm. Problems begin to surface in the way of defaults once home prices head south.

Meanwhile homeowners remain distracted and unaware of risk mesmerized by the returns made on real estate. Last year in San Diego housing prices rose 21.1%, the ninth consecutive year of gains. That figure is just an average. In the suburbs, price appreciation has been much higher. It has been 48% on the coast and as high as 39% in the tony parts of town. The median price San Diego home is now $500,000. San Diego is leading the state in lending trends. Buyers of homes are resorting to adjustable rate mortgages and interest only loans. In San Diego County in 2004 adjustable-rate mortgages represented 80% of all new purchases last year.

With housing inflation making most homes unaffordable, buyers here are relying on creative financing. Adjustable-rate mortgages, interest rate only, and negative amortization loans have become the new trend. It’s the only way buyers can qualify and make ends meet. Homebuyers are using savings and drawing down investments in order to buy. Salaries and wages just don’t cut it anymore when median price homes in the suburbs start at $700,000-$750,000. The new California definition of a millionaire is a homeowner. You have to be one to live here anymore.

California isn’t the only city to be taken over by the gold rush mentality sweeping over the real estate markets. From Miami to New York and from Orlando to San Diego, buyers are lining up, camping out overnight in front of sales offices to be the next in line to buy a new condo. With homes becoming unaffordable, buyers are rushing in to buy condos. Some are first-time buyers, some are looking for a second home, while others are just speculating hoping to make a quick buck by flipping the property. Buyers are oblivious to risk and believe that home prices can only go up. The Center for Economic Policy Research believes that a one percent rise in borrowing rates could start driving home prices lower. The fact that housing prices could decline may come as a shock to homeowners. Especially if they own an adjustable-rate, negative amortization, or interest only loan.

Addicted Consumers

Even worse is the shock that falling real estate prices could have on consumption. Last year U.S. consumers spent a record $4 trillion taking advantage of cut rate prices for cars and discounts from retailers. Total sales for 2004 were up 8% from 2003 to $4.06 trillion. The consumer is back at the mall buying everything from new cars to furniture and home entertainment systems. Funding this spending orgy is home equity extraction, which is now averaging close to $300 billion a year. What happens to consumption when consumers’ ATM machines—their homes—stops appreciating? Add this to rising interest rate costs and ballooning property taxes and it isn’t hard to see that a home budget squeeze is in the making.

@: http://www.financialsense.com/Market/puplava/2005/0207.html
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Great thread OP. Here's an update on P/Es from the NY Times:

The New York Times - Signs of bubbles in some regions?
DrBubb
The US Boom since 2000... Coastal concentration


Created by cheap money, thanks to the 9/11 rate cuts


Homeowners have felt more wealthy, thanks to Real Estate appreciation


Unprecedent growth in values


The point, however, is this. Ultra easy monetary policies after 2001 fueled in the US an asset boom, which was particularly noticeable in the housing industry. This housing boom created wealth, illusionary wealth I might add, which allowed American households to boost their consumption at a faster rate than their personal income gains. What ultra easy monetary policies failed to boost was capital spending in terms of net capital formation (capital spending that exceed depreciation) and "real" industrial production, as I have demonstrated in the case of the semiconductor industry (see figure 2). To what extend the US economy can continue to expand based on inflating home prices remain to be seen, but as Hayek would say, faced with a misdirection of production in the late 1990s, the Fed created further misdirection in the housing industry between 2000 and today, which will eventually lead to a much more severe crisis as soon as the credit expansion comes to an end.

...MZM growth has recently almost come to a standstill. In fact, MZM is expanding at the slowest rate in ten years, which would suggest to me that money has already become much tighter. ...unless the Fed starts to print money once again, the housing market may shortly begin to weaken somewhat, as has already happened in Australia, and in the United Kingdom, where following some unease in the property market retail sales disappointed.

...another round of ultra easy monetary policies would lead to renewed dollar weakness, some inflationary pressures for consumer prices and weaker bond prices. So, it is likely that nationwide home price increases will shortly moderate and that in some areas (California and Florida - see figure 4) prices will even come down regardless of the Fed's monetary policies.

The stock market rally I expected for April unfolded in May but now the oversold position we had in late April has been replaced by an overbought condition. In addition, the market faces significant resistance between 1200 and 1230. Therefore, the upside potential seems rather limited at this point.

Bonds are now also grossly overbought and are likely to weaken in the period directly ahead. In the meantime, the Euro has broken down, whereby bearish sentiment on the Euro is now almost as high as bearish sentiment was for the US dollar in late 2004. Therefore, I would expect at least some stabilization of the Euro around current levels. Moreover, if investors begin to discount that the Fed may refrain from further increasing rates, a strong rebound in the Euro and renewed dollar weakness should not be ruled out.

Regards, Marc Faber

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