[Pindar]

And it's all so predictable. Voting machine outcome set to "Democrat", Obama to the rescue. Much media nonsense about how it was all Bush's fault when it was the bankers that created this mess and it's the bankers who really pull the strings of American "democracy". They can practically hold any "elected" government to ransom and it's all so in our faces now that we'd surely be daft not to see it. That's the real reason American forces are being moved out of Iraq and back into home territory - they're expecting trouble at home after the fallout from this mess really starts to bite.

[Sinking Feeling]

I've not seen any of that on Fox News!

[EssexFTB]

Sinking Feeling, on Sep 28 2008, 05:01 PM, said:

I've not seen any of that on Fox News!

Where is it?

[Tiger Woods?]

crash2006, on Sep 28 2008, 04:25 AM, said:

Army 1st Brigade Combat Team being used to curb the protestors.

If that is true, whatever happened to posse comitatus?

[bearbullfence]

crash2006, on Sep 28 2008, 04:21 AM, said:

4.0 GPA, $90,000 in Debt, No Job ... Where's My Bailout?":

Guy's jussed p!ssed because he was about to start a new job as an investment banker with Lehmans.

BTW, he's protesting the bail out, but he was happy enough to take $90k off the fanancial institutions in the first place. Additionally he does have a bail out. He can go bankrupt and let the state wipe his debts off.

This post has been edited by bearbullfence: 28 September 2008 - 04:54 PM

[Crash Gordon]

bearbullfence, on Sep 28 2008, 05:53 PM, said:

BTW, he's protesting the bail out, but he was happy enough to take $90k off the fanancial institutions in the first place. Additionally he does have a bail out. He can go bankrupt and let the state wipe his debts off.

Not quite so easy as that - this page is from Sallie Mae, Fannie's little sister, and major US student loan company:

Sallie Says, Relax? Don't Believe It

[Garry AKA Pod]

The Dude, on Sep 28 2008, 04:18 PM, said:

A really interesting take on what the mood is really like in America. The American people have gone up in my estimation.

Agree with you there, though I never thought most Americans were as stupid as OUR media makes them out to be anyway.

[jonewer]

D, on Sep 28 2008, 05:06 PM, said:

If that is true, whatever happened to posse comitatus?

Nuthin like a bit of posse! 'sept maybe the indy 500!

[Slumpmonkey Returns]

You won't find any of these protests on mainstream western news channels like Fox, CBS, BBC, Sky etc. However, there is plenty of coverage on these demonstrations on Russia Today (the English language Russian state worldwide cable news channel) available on free sat.

[Little Professor]

Nikelodeon, on Sep 28 2008, 09:17 AM, said:

Why havent we seen any of this on the mainstream media?

WHY WHY WHY???


Love the "Jump, you *******" sign.

[Little Professor]

[Bloo Loo]

BarrelShifter, on Sep 28 2008, 04:33 PM, said:

And it's all so predictable. Voting machine outcome set to "Democrat", Obama to the rescue. Much media nonsense about how it was all Bush's fault when it was the bankers that created this mess and it's the bankers who really pull the strings of American "democracy". They can practically hold any "elected" government to ransom and it's all so in our faces now that we'd surely be daft not to see it. That's the real reason American forces are being moved out of Iraq and back into home territory - they're expecting trouble at home after the fallout from this mess really starts to bite.

US soldiers have mortgages and foreclosures too.

[Little Professor]

BarrelShifter, on Sep 28 2008, 04:33 PM, said:

That's the real reason American forces are being moved out of Iraq and back into home territory - they're expecting trouble at home after the fallout from this mess really starts to bite.

Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the "Homeland"?

This disturbing article from Army Times announces that "beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the [1st Brigade Combat Team of the 3rd Infantry Division] will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North" -- "the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to NorthCom, a joint command established in 2002 to provide command and control for federal homeland defense efforts and coordinate defense support of civil authorities." The article details:

They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack. . . .

The 1st BCT's soldiers also will learn how to use "the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded," 1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.

For more than 100 years -- since the end of the Civil War -- deployment of the U.S. military inside the U.S. has been prohibited under The Posse Comitatus Act (the only exceptions being that the National Guard and Coast Guard are exempted, and use of the military on an emergency ad hoc basis is permitted, such as what happened after Hurricane Katrina). Though there have been some erosions of this prohibition over the last several decades (most perniciously to allow the use of the military to work with law enforcement agencies in the "War on Drugs"), the bright line ban on using the U.S. military as a standing law enforcement force inside the U.S. has been more or less honored -- until now. And as the Army Times notes, once this particular brigade completes its one-year assignment, "expectations are that another, as yet unnamed, active-duty brigade will take over and that the mission will be a permanent one."

The decision this month to permanently deploy a U.S. Army brigade inside the U.S. for purely domestic law enforcement purposes is the fruit of the Congressional elimination of the long-standing prohibitions in Posse Comitatus (although there are credible signs that even before Congress acted, the Bush administration secretly decided it possessed the inherent power to violate the Act). It shouldn't take any efforts to explain why the permanent deployment of the U.S. military inside American cities, acting as the President's police force, is so disturbing. Bovard:

"Martial law" is a euphemism for military dictatorship. When foreign democracies are overthrown and a junta establishes martial law, Americans usually recognize that a fundamental change has occurred. . .

This post has been edited by Little Professor: 28 September 2008 - 06:51 PM