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dinker, on 03 May 2012 - 02:45 AM, said:

I`m with Virgin and this is what I get if I try to access TPB now:

I'm still up and running. I'm on O2 - whilst they agreed with Virgin et al, they basically aquire their bandwith through BT who have yet to agree to the ruling.

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Riedquat, on 03 May 2012 - 10:24 AM, said:

Aw, I'll get the violin out for the poor hard done by freeloaders who think that two wrongs make a right. I don't give a crap whether it's what people do anyway. There are all sorts of things that people do that they shouldn't and get stopped where possible with no-one complaining (go and look a the metal theft thread). "Censoring the internet", get real for heaven's sake.

UK ISP's have been forced to deny access to a website. Sounds like censorship to me. Don't you agree that it opens the floodgates to more censorship, which is not really the internet as it should be?

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bendybogle, on 03 May 2012 - 11:17 AM, said:

Thanks for the link - shows just how inconsequential a few music and movies will be!

Indeed, some posters seem to think its 1999 and we’re talking about napster. Although that’s marginally better than the state, that’s concerned that home taping is killing music.

Funny thing is though, there is absolutely a margin is putting the creators in touch with the consumers. Businesses that understand how to do this will survive and thrive, others will not, and new ones will be born. So the margins may not be at the level that corporates have commanded over the last 50 years or so. But the opportunities are there.

Incidentally I have a lastfm sub, so someone figured out how to turn a profit from music distribution

[The Eagle]

CrashedOutAndBurned, on 03 May 2012 - 11:41 AM, said:

That said, the genuine indie scene is 100% dead now. You could live off a few thousand album sales for a few years in the early 90s. Now the NME is full of haircuts from Dalston that could look good in an advert or fashion shoot.

Why should any musician be able to live off royalties? They should make their money by playing music (down at the pub, at social events, at concerts, etc..).

Same goes for actors: who says they should earn millions per movie? If it wasn't for stars (and the studio execs) getting paid millions, movie budgets would be a lot lower and therefore they could sell DVDs/BDs or unencrypted licensed downloads at a few quid each, which would remove most of the incentives for pirated downloads.

This post has been edited by awake_eagle: 03 May 2012 - 01:25 PM

[Rozza]

I used to buy many many CD's and DVD's but i got absolutely sick to death of going out on release day and spending a fortune only to find a few months later that another version of the album with 3 extras tracks had been released, so i started downloading the extra tracks and before long realised it was easier to just get the whole album

When the media companies come up with a business model where the price reflects some form of reality i might go back to purchasing but as things stand music and video is now more expensive than when giant factories were needed to press physical copies and large costs were incurred to distribute so frankly they can get stuffed

Also when something is on TV in the U.S and i want a copy there are precisely zero legal avenues to get it, there are many satires of exactly this point e.g Comic

so I as a user have two choices

1) Get it for free from somewhere
2) Go without

Given that option 1 is free.... its a no brainer.. When option 3) Buy for a reasonable price and 4) rent for a reasonable price become available maybe things will change

Blocking one website will not change this, it will just make things get more secure quickly so that the snoops dont know whats going on

This post has been edited by Rozza: 03 May 2012 - 01:30 PM

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British Ban Spikes Pirate Bay Traffic

"Today sees UK ISPs begin to block access for their subscribers to the Pirate Bay URL. Sky, Talk Talk, Virgin Media and O2 have already blocked access and the UK's biggest provider, BT, are currently reviewing their legal position. This access ban however has seen The Pirate Bay's traffic spike to 12 million more page views than their previous daily record. It seems obvious that a message is being sent, that this type of censorship is not the way forward. The Pirate Bay keeps on sailing.""

http://yro.slashdot....ate-bay-traffic

well that worked then.

[libspero]

feed, on 03 May 2012 - 01:41 PM, said:

British Ban Spikes Pirate Bay Traffic

"Today sees UK ISPs begin to block access for their subscribers to the Pirate Bay URL. Sky, Talk Talk, Virgin Media and O2 have already blocked access and the UK's biggest provider, BT, are currently reviewing their legal position. This access ban however has seen The Pirate Bay's traffic spike to 12 million more page views than their previous daily record. It seems obvious that a message is being sent, that this type of censorship is not the way forward. The Pirate Bay keeps on sailing.""

http://yro.slashdot....ate-bay-traffic

well that worked then.

I'm not a particular fan of TPB.. but direct censorship of information/internet seems very wrong to me.

Don't forget, THEY WORK FOR YOU.. tell them.

[WorkingForTheMan]

cashinmattress, on 30 April 2012 - 07:28 PM, said:

Yeah, sure.

http://www.mafiaafire.com/

So, Virgin have now blocked my access to TPB

Quote

Sorry, the web page you have requested is not available through Virgin Media.

Virgin Media has received an order from the Courts requiring us to prevent access to this site in order to help protect against copyright infringement.

Mafiaafire add-on for firefox doesn't work for me

Any similar alternatives?


Pretty annoyed about this tbh, its a slippery slope to complete censorship

[WorkingForTheMan]

ignore my last post above..found a far simpler alternative if anyones interested:

http://tpb.pirateparty.org.uk/

[bendybogle]

WorkingForTheMan, on 03 May 2012 - 07:02 PM, said:

So, Virgin have now blocked my access to TPB



Mafiaafire add-on for firefox doesn't work for me

Any similar alternatives?


Pretty annoyed about this tbh, its a slippery slope to complete censorship

Just google what you want and add torrent – or nzb if you’re a news subscriber.

However you, others and I are right in being concerned about this – the ‘nothing to hide’ which unfortunately are present in this very thread don’t quite realise that indirectly there may well be a day when this very site gets blocked due to ‘promotion of avenues to incite copyright infringement’. This thread being the evidence.

They'd never do that though of course. No, no removal of free speech. Never.

[dinker]

And now all porn sites are to be blocked:

http://www.pcpro.co....-blocking-plans

******ing hell, that woke you all up.

[stormymonday_2011]

WorkingForTheMan, on 03 May 2012 - 07:02 PM, said:

So, Virgin have now blocked my access to TPB



Mafiaafire add-on for firefox doesn't work for me

Any similar alternatives?

Pretty annoyed about this tbh, its a slippery slope to complete censorship

I use Virgin Media as an ISP and I had no trouble getting round their block using a proxy.

Strangely I never use these download sites so this was the first time I have ever visited the PTB.

This post has been edited by stormymonday_2011: 04 May 2012 - 07:30 PM

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thombleached, on 03 May 2012 - 12:28 PM, said:

UK ISP's have been forced to deny access to a website. Sounds like censorship to me. Don't you agree that it opens the floodgates to more censorship, which is not really the internet as it should be?

Thin end of the wedge stuff this. Copyright then offence then the wrong sort of opinions. Could HPC or the myriad of blogs find themselves blocked because the challenge mainstream views.

dinker, on 04 May 2012 - 07:24 PM, said:

And now all porn sites are to be blocked:

http://www.pcpro.co....-blocking-plans

******ing hell, that woke you all up.

This was on the news as a potentially being a 'popular' policy with voters to block porn site, it seems you would have to opt in. Isn't this the case with browser filters? It's ridiculous of course, but will be spun to protect children (who may possibly have parents, supposedly their guardians), and whose curiosity is a natural part of growing up. To be human is to be interested in sex.

The internet is revolution, it seems it must be controlled.