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#1 Wurzel Of Highbridge

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 10:01 PM

A one, yes ONE BEDROOM HOUSE a bargain for one hundred and twenty thousand pounds:

http://www.rightmove...y-16209438.html

WHY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :angry:

No wonder the NIMBYS say don't build around here! If all the current building monopoly is capable of building is that.

Why can't we build more estates like they could one generation ago.

http://maps.google.c...2,25.79,,0,5.38

In my opinion a pleasant and sustainable development with driveways, a place to put your bins and gardens for the wildlife to flourish.

AND YES, THIS WAS FARM LAND BEFORE IT WAS A HOUSING ESTATE.


WHY ???????????????????? :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:
  • I don't believe that there can be sustainable asset inflation when there is underlying wage deflation.
  • No matter what you choose to do in life, choose to do what you are best at and be the best you can be.
  • Everyone is a vested interest and everything is rigged.
  • Sometimes bubble dynamics just end, people stop believing and what was once a virtuous cycle suddenly morphs into vicious one.
  • The real value goes beyond the money.

I have come to realize that there is widespread belief in a 2015 global recovery.At this point in June 2013 is clear that there will be no recovery in 2015, central bankers have run out of tools to patch over the structural problems and the can can no longer be kicked.As we approach 2015 it will be clear that the emperor has no clothes and there will be an economic crash that makes 2009 look trivial.Note: I was wrong on 2nd May 2012 12:00 - London Top called prediction of London will fall by >10% in 12 months.


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Posted 05 April 2012 - 10:08 PM

Its because of nimbys that we don't get buildings like that any more.

Farmland no chance of building on it.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 10:12 PM

A one, yes ONE BEDROOM HOUSE a bargain for one hundred and twenty thousand pounds:

http://www.rightmove...y-16209438.html

WHY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :angry:

No wonder the NIMBYS say don't build around here! If all the current building monopoly is capable of building is that.

Why can't we build more estates like they could one generation ago.

http://maps.google.c...2,25.79,,0,5.38

In my opinion a pleasant and sustainable development with driveways, a place to put your bins and gardens for the wildlife to flourish.

AND YES, THIS WAS FARM LAND BEFORE IT WAS A HOUSING ESTATE.


WHY ???????????????????? :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:




I like the description...

"Attached modern house"....like that makes it different from semi detached.

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#4 Wurzel Of Highbridge

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 10:15 PM

People don't like diluting the money housing supply ?

Take a look at this hideous development:

http://maps.google.c...2,140.98,,0,6.2

Not even I want that built!

Building lower density developments would use around double the amount of land. At the current rate of development we would another 0.00001% of the available land in the UK each year.
  • I don't believe that there can be sustainable asset inflation when there is underlying wage deflation.
  • No matter what you choose to do in life, choose to do what you are best at and be the best you can be.
  • Everyone is a vested interest and everything is rigged.
  • Sometimes bubble dynamics just end, people stop believing and what was once a virtuous cycle suddenly morphs into vicious one.
  • The real value goes beyond the money.

I have come to realize that there is widespread belief in a 2015 global recovery.At this point in June 2013 is clear that there will be no recovery in 2015, central bankers have run out of tools to patch over the structural problems and the can can no longer be kicked.As we approach 2015 it will be clear that the emperor has no clothes and there will be an economic crash that makes 2009 look trivial.Note: I was wrong on 2nd May 2012 12:00 - London Top called prediction of London will fall by >10% in 12 months.


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Posted 05 April 2012 - 10:15 PM

Ah, Shit & Smellit...popular for commuters who work in Brizzle & Bath, but cant afford those prices...
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 10:16 PM

Agenda 21
"Asians make things and sell them to Americans, who borrow money from their suppliers (on the inflated value of their houses) in order to continue living beyond their means. Asians take their profits and either relend them to Americans...or use them to buy more productive capacity, in America and elsewhere.

For those who wonder where this trend will lead, we offer a guess: The average American will be left with a shoeshine kit and instructions on how to say 'please' and 'thank you' in Chinese...."

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#7 Wurzel Of Highbridge

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 10:18 PM

I now absolutely believe that the housing supply is that tight that another 1 million well distributed houses appearing overnight would not harm property values in this country.

People only 'allow' these crappy developments because 'it is worse than where we live' type attitude.

I really start to question how this attitude came about? It must have started after around 1995, there was a sudden change of thinking by the general public. <_<
  • I don't believe that there can be sustainable asset inflation when there is underlying wage deflation.
  • No matter what you choose to do in life, choose to do what you are best at and be the best you can be.
  • Everyone is a vested interest and everything is rigged.
  • Sometimes bubble dynamics just end, people stop believing and what was once a virtuous cycle suddenly morphs into vicious one.
  • The real value goes beyond the money.

I have come to realize that there is widespread belief in a 2015 global recovery.At this point in June 2013 is clear that there will be no recovery in 2015, central bankers have run out of tools to patch over the structural problems and the can can no longer be kicked.As we approach 2015 it will be clear that the emperor has no clothes and there will be an economic crash that makes 2009 look trivial.Note: I was wrong on 2nd May 2012 12:00 - London Top called prediction of London will fall by >10% in 12 months.


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Posted 05 April 2012 - 10:19 PM

I like the description...

"Attached modern house"....like that makes it different from semi detached.


I've seen one bedroom houses like that where the building actually divided in four so you get a corner each.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 10:26 PM

[edit]Started new post.

Edited by khards, 05 April 2012 - 10:26 PM.

  • I don't believe that there can be sustainable asset inflation when there is underlying wage deflation.
  • No matter what you choose to do in life, choose to do what you are best at and be the best you can be.
  • Everyone is a vested interest and everything is rigged.
  • Sometimes bubble dynamics just end, people stop believing and what was once a virtuous cycle suddenly morphs into vicious one.
  • The real value goes beyond the money.

I have come to realize that there is widespread belief in a 2015 global recovery.At this point in June 2013 is clear that there will be no recovery in 2015, central bankers have run out of tools to patch over the structural problems and the can can no longer be kicked.As we approach 2015 it will be clear that the emperor has no clothes and there will be an economic crash that makes 2009 look trivial.Note: I was wrong on 2nd May 2012 12:00 - London Top called prediction of London will fall by >10% in 12 months.


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Posted 06 April 2012 - 07:33 AM

I now absolutely believe that the housing supply is that tight that another 1 million well distributed houses appearing overnight would not harm property values in this country.

People only 'allow' these crappy developments because 'it is worse than where we live' type attitude.

I really start to question how this attitude came about? It must have started after around 1995, there was a sudden change of thinking by the general public. <_<



I think it started in the 1980s, when a few "minimum size" planning restrictions were lifted!

Therefore you won't get decent houses built! Just cardboard flats! :angry: :blink: :huh:
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 07:46 AM

I now absolutely believe that the housing supply is that tight that another 1 million well distributed houses appearing overnight would not harm property values in this country.

People only 'allow' these crappy developments because 'it is worse than where we live' type attitude.

I really start to question how this attitude came about? It must have started after around 1995, there was a sudden change of thinking by the general public. <_<


How many more threads will we get claiming that there is a housing under-supply problem. There isn't its a myth created by the big builders to justify there land banking and get planning permission for slave boxes.

All we have is an over-demand problem created by lack credit conditions and the property route to riches culture.

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 10:23 AM

I think it started in the 1980s, when a few "minimum size" planning restrictions were lifted!

Therefore you won't get decent houses built! Just cardboard flats! :angry: :blink: :huh:

But there are older houses.

'Built in 1884 originally for the railway workers, Barnet re-listed the estate and protected it
with a conservation band and since then the estate has been lovingly restored and has
become a tranquil haven for young families'

NW2 6QL, two bed terrace (nicely furnished IMHO) asking price .... £399,950. Not many railway workers will be living there now.
George Osborne July 2013; 'I don't think in the current environment a house price bubble is going to emerge in 18 months or three years.' Mark Carney September 2013; ' ... there has been an improvement in prices and activity (talking about the housing market) Osborne to cabinet as quoted in the Indie October 2013; "Hopefully we will get a little housing boom & everyone will be happy"

Osborne says; “Printing money is the last resort of desperate governments when all other policies have failed.”

George Osborne December 2008; “Savers and pensioners are the forgotten victims … They are innocent bystanders and it’s simply not good enough for the Government to walk on by."

In his 1997 Budget speech, Gordon Brown said, "I will not allow house prices to get out of control and put at risk the sustainability of the future". He went on to say that he did not want a return to "instability, speculation and negative equity" of the 1980's and 1990's.

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 10:29 AM

How many more threads will we get claiming that there is a housing under-supply problem. There isn't its a myth created by the big builders to justify there land banking and get planning permission for slave boxes.


There is an under supply of large houses. If anyone had predicted 15 years ago that normal people would be spending so much money on houses, you'd have imagined that all that capital invested would have led to a massive increase in standard of living and quality of dwellings. Instead supply was artificially distorted and we just bid up the prices of the same old rubbish.

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 10:34 AM

NW2 6QL, two bed terrace (nicely furnished IMHO) asking price .... £399,950. Not many railway workers will be living there now.


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Posted 06 April 2012 - 10:38 AM

There is an under supply of large houses. If anyone had predicted 15 years ago that normal people would be spending so much money on houses, you'd have imagined that all that capital invested would have led to a massive increase in standard of living and quality of dwellings. Instead supply was artificially distorted and we just bid up the prices of the same old rubbish.

it did lead to a massive increase in living standard whilst prices increased as that debt and tax take off it was spent back into the wider economy, granted it was mostly on sh@t but you dont go making quality programs about what makes Britain Rich and the like unless living standards are going through the roof

Edited by Georgia O'Keeffe, 06 April 2012 - 10:46 AM.





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