[the shaping machine]

Parkwell, on 03 April 2012 - 10:14 AM, said:

...banning political parties, so that all politicians are independents, would go a long way to restoring some sort of sense to our political processes.

In my more cynical moments, I do wonder whether the regular "cash for influence" scandals are part of a longer-term campaign for state party funding, with the goal of locking the current 2.5 parties in power for eternity.

Parkwell, on 03 April 2012 - 10:14 AM, said:

Sadly the turnout of the AV referendum makes me think most people don't think too hard about these broader issues.

Although I personally felt AV was a small step in the right direction, I can see why most people rejected what was in the end little more than a token change.

This post has been edited by the shaping machine: 03 April 2012 - 07:34 PM

[oracle]

KingBingo, on 03 April 2012 - 07:29 PM, said:

I agree with this bit 100%




This bit however is ********. What we have today is fascism, not capitalism.

indeed.corporate fascism.


...and if it is left to metastacise and turn into the type of corporate fascism that hitler was fond of(ie production line babies,snoop culture and so on) it WILL end up the same way.
...on steroids.

it must be stopped NOW.
the politicians won't do it,they're bought and paid for.

the system needs an enema.....flush the poisonous little dregs of lawyers,bankers,paid for judiciary,corporate execs and politicians out of the system.
those who attempt to escape should be subject to their own snooping inventions.

..ie global e-bounty hunt.

[Davetolbooth]

It will be interesting to see if 'twatter' or 'offyerfacebook' etc enables a ground swell against party politics in the next election.

[billybong]

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This post has been edited by billybong: 04 April 2012 - 10:43 AM

[Vagabond]

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We're Sick Of The Lot Of You: Disgusted Voters Give All Three 'out Of Touch' Party Leaders The Worst Poll Ratings In History

And then promptly vote for them. Again.

Fool me once etc. Even without our currently, awful, system there are still the means to vote out poor candidates. The fact people don't so this just gets them that government they oh so deserve.

I've said before. With todays technology, there is no reason at all* why we couldn't have some sort of direct democracy and actually vote on the larger issues as and when.





* - Well, apart from the obvious reason of course.

[fluffy666]

Vagabond, on 04 April 2012 - 12:41 AM, said:

And then promptly vote for them. Again.

Fool me once etc. Even without our currently, awful, system there are still the means to vote out poor candidates. The fact people don't so this just gets them that government they oh so deserve.

I've said before. With todays technology, there is no reason at all* why we couldn't have some sort of direct democracy and actually vote on the larger issues as and when.

* - Well, apart from the obvious reason of course.

If you look at the percentage of the population who actually cast a vote for the current government..

[Parkwell]

Exactly, and don't forget that a third of people didn't even vote to start with.

[tahoma]

Short version, people are tired of seeing hard work punished, and the feckless rewarded with the spoils.

Also, having successive governments that are clearly hell-bent on destroying the most successful cultural and legal system in the history of mankind - the fifth column state funded broadcaster, 'media', 'intellectual' and 'educator' classes cheerleading all the way - is unlikely to be popular.

Back to basics folks. Low taxes, small state and defend the f*cking borders from those who would be perfectly happy to turn this country into whatever backward hell-hole they scurried in from.


Edit: I've said it before, I'll say it again. We are one charismatic leader away from things turning very, very nasty indeed.

This post has been edited by tahoma: 04 April 2012 - 11:32 AM