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#31 User is offline   Mr. Piddle 

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 08:53 PM

Oh no poor Theobold & Tarquin will have to mingle with Dave & Pete, poor soles!! :P
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 09:01 PM

View PostMr. Piddle, on 01 March 2012 - 08:53 PM, said:

Oh no poor Theobold & Tarquin will have to mingle with Dave & Pete, poor soles!! :P


What have their shoes got to do with it?

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 09:28 PM

View Postlevoleurdefruits, on 01 March 2012 - 09:01 PM, said:

What have their shoes got to do with it?


Well at least you can tell I weren't privately educated! Sorry my bad.... SOULS!
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 09:41 PM

View PostMr. Piddle, on 01 March 2012 - 08:53 PM, said:

Oh no poor Theobold & Tarquin will have to mingle with Dave & Pete, poor soles!! :P


Are they fish?


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Posted 01 March 2012 - 09:51 PM

View Posthotairmail, on 01 March 2012 - 09:41 PM, said:

Are they fish?


Oh sod off you lot, you can correct my spellings if you dont like it! :P
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 10:27 PM

View Posttbatst2000, on 01 March 2012 - 08:47 PM, said:

I don't think that is generally true - may be mostly true at the older end, but I know of many counter-examples. Pre-12 setting is actually very uncommon from what I can see.


With kids at school my experience is as follows:

State primary doesn't stream by class but does within the class for teh core subjects - kids will sit in different groups by ability and get different tasks depending on ability. Also have additional classes for the really exception from each year, and a remedial group.

State secondary school streams from year 8 (second year in old school parlance).
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 10:39 PM

My heart bleeds. They've already made a pot from ZIRP off my effin' back, what more do they want?

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 02:14 PM

View Postjackpot06, on 01 March 2012 - 02:20 PM, said:



Whats your point?

Are you trying to say that because of this one tragedy that all state schools are terrible and should be avoided like the plague?

I hope not, as that would be pretty f**king dumb.

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 02:48 PM

Let them eat Turkey Twiszlers....
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 05:41 PM

View Postbrocken spectre, on 01 March 2012 - 11:50 AM, said:

Generally children are pretty fair and don't take account of where you come from.


Really? I must have been unlucky with my school. Got to say I disliked most of the kids I was stuck with post-13 because of streaming and being from a much poorer social class than most of the others in the class. School in general like 13 years of a prison sentence from what I remember. Very glad when I finally left.
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 05:48 PM

View Posteasy2012, on 01 March 2012 - 06:30 PM, said:

Education act 1996 which basically says sufficient education provision needs to be made. But home school is perfectly legal although I believe the bureaucrat reserves
the right to inspect.

I was assuming hotairmail was joking as we are not quite USSR yet.

Hold yer horses...I was saying in addition to normal school. I've got to work during the day (if I have a job!).

One on one in addition to school is effective. My dad did it with me and I do it with my girlfriend now too. I definitely plan to teach my children writing, maths, science, and IT several hours a week. I don't think it's done very well in schools.

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 11:02 AM

View Postcica, on 02 March 2012 - 05:48 PM, said:

Hold yer horses...I was saying in addition to normal school. I've got to work during the day (if I have a job!).

One on one in addition to school is effective. My dad did it with me and I do it with my girlfriend now too. I definitely plan to teach my children writing, maths, science, and IT several hours a week. I don't think it's done very well in schools.


It's called being a good parent, on the girlfriend front I wouldn't hold out much hope of it lasting if your idea of a fun evening is playing teacher unless of course this is a bit of code for a good spanking ......
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 09:30 PM

View Postcica, on 02 March 2012 - 05:48 PM, said:

Hold yer horses...I was saying in addition to normal school. I've got to work during the day (if I have a job!).

One on one in addition to school is effective. My dad did it with me and I do it with my girlfriend now too. I definitely plan to teach my children writing, maths, science, and IT several hours a week. I don't think it's done very well in schools.


Any parent with a child in a state secondary school has to spend enormous amounts of time/effort and/or money otherwise their kids will sink without a trace.

Ditto state A level college.

Sadly I could write a book on this subject.

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 09:38 PM

Most schools stream, but the problem with streaming is that the majority of the times it's a method to focus resources on a particular group rather than actually helping individuals.

The middle ranking students will get most resources to get them up to c level standard. The lower groups will just be screwed over and expected to fail, and the higher level groups will be similar to the middle group. Then they wonder why the lower group can't get jobs or progress in education.

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 09:45 PM

What is really needed is a individual approach with access to the same resources as everyone else. Having trouble with certain formula, well we can go over that some more. Your finding that equation easy, well that's move on. Etc. I think people would be surprised on how people change on different topics within the same subject. Lower group people might be really good at some parts, but really bad at others and the same is true for higher group people. What matters is what stage they got tested.

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