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#1 Live Peasant

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 09:11 PM

Using the Irish constitution and Common Law to tell the Sheriff's representative to go away



Edited by Live Peasant, 25 February 2012 - 09:13 PM.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 09:21 PM

Using the Irish constitution and Common Law to tell the Sheriff's representative to go away



I would be interested to see how a non violence cooperative society is going to deal with this...

Of course, if property prices always go up then we wound't have this problem except that it does not.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 09:36 PM

Confusion.....Eclectic Law Orchestra


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Posted 25 February 2012 - 09:43 PM

OK, given that I am not going to be spending 23 minutes of my life watching that video (or reading a transcript of it), would you care to summarize, in 50-100 words, OP?
The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 09:44 PM

That's brilliant. Is there a resource on the net which might list or point to similar conflicts of interest? Bet there is loads of it goes on by all the troughing old boys networks. I'll bet the majority is at least one step removed though (nepotism, honours, bribery). Makes you think though. Thanks for the link, it makes me want to read law. ;)
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Posted 25 February 2012 - 09:58 PM

OK, given that I am not going to be spending 23 minutes of my life watching that video (or reading a transcript of it), would you care to summarize, in 50-100 words, OP?



Yes Sir...

It basically says because the judge (the registrar) and the sheriff are the same person who act in different role (i.e. hat), there is no separation of judiciary and enforcement and hence the warrant is unlawful.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 10:58 PM

Good video. This seems pretty similar to the freeman on the land movement.

People seem to assume that those in authority will obey the law, much like the plebs try to do. Unfortunately, it seems they often take the piss.

It looks like the bank was chancing their arm, as was the sheriff. Good on these guys for calling their bluff!
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Posted 25 February 2012 - 11:01 PM

I would be interested to see how a non violence cooperative society is going to deal with this...

Of course, if property prices always go up then we wound't have this problem except that it does not.


Easy - contracts can be broken, but a social stigma may apply if you do. It doesn't give people the right to violate another, if a contract is broken.

This is where the minarchists get it wrong. Contracts should never be enforced with violence. They are just agreements which can be broken.

People may or may not cooperate with someone who breaks contracts, but it doesn't mean that people get to use violence to enforce them
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Posted 25 February 2012 - 11:32 PM

19.38 minutes.

"It was Ulster Bank went looking for this order tonight and as you know Ulster Bank has ownership of 70% of HM Treasury now" :o

Edited by billybong, 25 February 2012 - 11:35 PM.


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Posted 26 February 2012 - 12:55 AM

OK, given that I am not going to be spending 23 minutes of my life watching that video (or reading a transcript of it), would you care to summarize, in 50-100 words, OP?


Someone with a large mansion style house behind a gate and long driveway isn't paying the full mortgage repayments they agreed to pay, when they laid claim to such a nice property. Probably over 6 months of lenders forbearance, then months of lenders trying to reclaim property in court, sees a court order issued.

Some groups have formed believing the lender has made no loss over the mortgage because of securitization. Implying the debtor should be able to keep their fine house, and fresh young buyers should be forced to pay much higher prices with mortgage debtors in all the nice homes not having to suffer any consequences.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 01:19 AM

It's a time machine!

The Irish protested evictions like this by landlords 150 years ago. Except the evictees way back then didn't borrow their arses into infinity and were trying to survive off their labour.

We can expect today's priced-outs to start their own protests against these evictees ... when?
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 01:31 AM

We can expect today's priced-outs to start their own protests against these evictees ... when?


Don't start with the usual crap, these evictees and any priced-outs are both victims of the bankster elite, in-fights among commoners is exactly what the elite loves so we don't blame them.

Anyway, there are no priced-outs in Ireland anymore, thanks to the big HPC they have had over the last few years.


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Posted 26 February 2012 - 02:32 AM

Anyway, there are no priced-outs in Ireland anymore, thanks to the big HPC they have had over the last few years.


There's posters in the NI forum and on the ROI thread priced out. Or not willing to overpay because so many people expect to be let off their mortgage debt.

In 2007 Ben Gilroy got an interest only mortgage with Start Mortgage. For four and a half years he's been paying a whopping two thousand eight hundred euros a month, but now he can't pay any more. He's in arrears for six months.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCzte9CnKu8

Upgraded to that house in 2007, happy to buy at the 452,000 Euros asking price. Put in 150,000 Euros of his own money, or 'profit' from the house he sold. Borrowed 310,000 Euros going with a really expensive subprime broker with a 650 PER WEEK mortgage, so he could get the house he wanted. Had missed payments on his small mortgage previously so explains that's the reason he had to go with a subprime lender. Not concerned with the high price of the house he wanted. He just wanted it. Probably expecting the HPI party to continue. Now wanting to prevent all those who acted as stupidly with debt having to deal with consequences, allowing house prices to become more affordable for people who didn't join the buying frenzy at ridiculous high prices.

Edited by Venger, 26 February 2012 - 02:33 AM.


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Posted 26 February 2012 - 08:41 AM

Who are the Irish bank bond holders..........No suprises there for me but enjoy the kn*b getting toasted by the interviewer



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Posted 26 February 2012 - 08:41 AM

It's no surprise the you tube rating system was scrapped when you see clips like this.

The 1% don't want this sort of info being seen by large numbers of the plebs. They might get idea's :)

Edited by Ned Coates, 26 February 2012 - 08:50 AM.





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