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I'd do south America, it's got this going on, looks way nicer than blighty. Have to brush up on my spanglish.
Top Twenty Places To Emigrate For Young People
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 11:23 PM
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 11:59 PM
jammo, on 23 February 2012 - 11:23 PM, said:
I'd do south America, it's got this going on, looks way nicer than blighty. Have to brush up on my spanglish.
Those guys make good music but some really weird videos
And I tell you we have learned from past mistakes.
Just as you cannot spend your way out of recession, you cannot, in a global economy, simply spend your way through recovery either.
(Gordon Brown, Labour Party Annual Conference, 29 September 1997)
So, housing affordability is better than it has ever been, but no-one can take advantage of this because they can't afford the houses. I see.
cybernoid - 7th August 2010
Gambling promises the poor what property promises the rich - something for nothing
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Just as you cannot spend your way out of recession, you cannot, in a global economy, simply spend your way through recovery either.
(Gordon Brown, Labour Party Annual Conference, 29 September 1997)
So, housing affordability is better than it has ever been, but no-one can take advantage of this because they can't afford the houses. I see.
cybernoid - 7th August 2010
Gambling promises the poor what property promises the rich - something for nothing
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Posted 24 February 2012 - 12:08 AM
iamnumerate, on 23 February 2012 - 04:19 PM, said:
But the bad thing is that to get a job you need qualifications not experience.
If you have 15 years programming but no degree- don't even think about it - if what my in laws say is true.
If you have 15 years programming but no degree- don't even think about it - if what my in laws say is true.
Someone I know moved out to Bogota not so long ago, not bright at all and no degree, however he invested a substantial some of $ over there setting up a security company. Before that he lived in Afghanistan for five years permanently as a security consultant.
Me and the wife have considered moving overseas and dismissed opportunities in oz, geneva and Norway - all with real jobs to go to. Fact of the matter is for us the best place to be is as far away from all the other high achievers, and right now home (UK) appears to tick all the boxes. There are skills shortages here and the situation is getting worse with all the super sheep fleeing to sunnier climbs and IMO the people who frequent this site have a higher than average IQ and some (not all) might be cutting their noses off to spite their face moving somewhere unfamiliar and culturally different.
Edit: to put UK in #1 spot of places to emigrate
This post has been edited by 30k: 24 February 2012 - 12:10 AM
10 years ago we had Steve Jobs, Bob Hope and Johnny Cash - Now we have no Jobs, no Hope and no Cash So, what left? Alcohol.
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"the world seems a better place when you're wearing beer goggles".
Quote buried in same article from 27 year old female subject painting the town of Cardiff red on a booze fuelled night out.
John Baker, Aberdeen 8/10/2011 22:34
http://www.dailymail...n.html#comments
"the world seems a better place when you're wearing beer goggles".
Quote buried in same article from 27 year old female subject painting the town of Cardiff red on a booze fuelled night out.
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Posted 24 February 2012 - 12:25 AM
I don't get why people are saying Berlin is such a great place to emigrate to.
Yeah it's a kinda hip/happening place, so nice if you want to stay for a short while travelling etc., but unemployment is really high (>12%, not much less than... Hull
) and it's got massive social problems in certain areas, so it's really not a good place to emigrate to for the longer term.
Yeah it's a kinda hip/happening place, so nice if you want to stay for a short while travelling etc., but unemployment is really high (>12%, not much less than... Hull
) and it's got massive social problems in certain areas, so it's really not a good place to emigrate to for the longer term.
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Posted 24 February 2012 - 12:40 AM
EvilEdna, on 23 February 2012 - 10:47 PM, said:
Denmark's nice
Have you been to Esbjerg ?
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Posted 24 February 2012 - 01:35 AM
Zanu Bob, on 23 February 2012 - 10:40 AM, said:
Speaking from experience Phnom Penh is the place to be
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Posted 24 February 2012 - 01:51 AM
Phnom Penh. Awesome. Fact.
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Posted 24 February 2012 - 04:40 AM
ska_mna, on 23 February 2012 - 12:04 PM, said:
Reading with interest. Feeling really stifled here in the UK at the moment and do feel like I gotta get out soon.
Mrs ska_mna has Oz Visa, so could go there tomorrow. But damn it, the Oz bubble is horrendous too. C'mon, burst already aussie bubble and I'm there!
Failing that, Germany perhaps.
EDIT: I'm a coastal-lovin chap, total water sport addict. Anyone got any recommendations?
Mrs ska_mna has Oz Visa, so could go there tomorrow. But damn it, the Oz bubble is horrendous too. C'mon, burst already aussie bubble and I'm there!
Failing that, Germany perhaps.
EDIT: I'm a coastal-lovin chap, total water sport addict. Anyone got any recommendations?
Yeah, start with a MiniMal, probably about 8"2' should do.
Move to Oz anyway; immigration laws are the most frequently amended after tax laws, you can't guarantee that visa will remain extant forever.
And then when you arrive sit back and enjoy reliving 2008 all over again.
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Posted 24 February 2012 - 04:54 AM
30k, on 24 February 2012 - 12:08 AM, said:
Me and the wife have considered moving overseas and dismissed opportunities in oz, geneva and Norway - all with real jobs to go to. Fact of the matter is for us the best place to be is as far away from all the other high achievers, and right now home (UK) appears to tick all the boxes. There are skills shortages here and the situation is getting worse with all the super sheep fleeing to sunnier climbs and IMO the people who frequent this site have a higher than average IQ and some (not all) might be cutting their noses off to spite their face moving somewhere unfamiliar and culturally different.
Well, speaking as someone who started my working day with a one hour surfing session and is now in the office earning my highest day rate ever, it doesn't feel like I'm having a probiscotomy to annoy my visage.
And as for high achievers being here in Sydney; ha! You should read my blog to set yourself straight on that one. The smart Australians are over in London.
"And thus the rule, supported by the experience of centuries; the speculative episode always ends, not with a whimper but with a bang."
J. K. Galbraith - A short history of financial euphoria
My blog from enemy territory
J. K. Galbraith - A short history of financial euphoria
My blog from enemy territory
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Posted 24 February 2012 - 09:34 AM
swissy_fit, on 23 February 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:
Bogota, Colombia
So, the writer can't spell and thinks the sh*ggability of the locals is an important factor.
So, the writer can't spell and thinks the sh*ggability of the locals is an important factor.
If you are a red blooded male with a healthy libido, it is important. Living amongst attractive people is most desirable. Wander round most English towns, you're surrounded by the chavlike, the corpulent, the unwashed, the loud, the unkempt, the tatooed, the nose ringed. We aren't exactly classy are we.
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Posted 24 February 2012 - 10:19 AM
This list is a terrible bit of research, probably put together by a temp before her lunch break. I don’t think anyone collects accurate statistics on where English people emigrate (no one asked me where I was going).
It would be nice to see an international league table of good-job-vacancies vs. quality-of-live (with scroll bars allowing you to weigh factors like weather, safety, etc.). Most of this data should be out there on the internet already.
Berlin is a special case. It is only cheap because of the commies, and is naturally getting less so over time.
If you want a good job in Germany, go to NRW or München.
Also, region comparisons are more useful than individual cities.
It would be nice to see an international league table of good-job-vacancies vs. quality-of-live (with scroll bars allowing you to weigh factors like weather, safety, etc.). Most of this data should be out there on the internet already.
winkie, on 23 February 2012 - 11:55 AM, said:
Berlin is a very nice open city....so why then is their property so affordable,why do people there prefer to rent?
Berlin is a special case. It is only cheap because of the commies, and is naturally getting less so over time.
If you want a good job in Germany, go to NRW or München.
Also, region comparisons are more useful than individual cities.
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Posted 24 February 2012 - 11:17 AM
i, on 24 February 2012 - 01:35 AM, said:
Speaking from experience Phnom Penh is the place to be
Is that just a holiday experience or do you live there?
What's Sihankouville like?
If you say "democorruptcy" quickly, it sounds a bit like "democracy". In a "democracy" people vote for politicians who represent their interests. In the UK's "democorruptcy" people can only vote for expense fiddling thieving MPs who are in the hip pocket of big business and the finance sector.
The Funding for Lending Scheme (FLS) is stealing from savers to make them pay for crimes by bankers. Via lower interest on savings, all the bank fines for PPI, LIBOR and interest rates swaps are now being paid by savers so that bankers can keep pocketing bonuses.
"We need to make a really big change: from an economy built on debt to an economy built on savings" - David Camoron Jan 2009
"Printing money is the last resort of desperate governments when all other policies have failed" - George Osborne Jan 2009
- So what do Camoron & Osborne do? Print money and leave interest rates at 0.5% when inflation is over 5%
If it is asserted that civilization is a real advance in the condition of man -- and I think that it is, though only the wise improve their advantages -- it must be shown that it has produced better dwellings without making them more costly; and the cost of a thing is the amount of what I will call life which is required to be exchanged for it, immediately or in the long run.
http://classiclit.ab...en-Part-2_4.htm
Did you recognise the two robbers in my avatar? Clue: One got a knighthood and inflation linked pension, the other a 150 year prison sentence.
The Funding for Lending Scheme (FLS) is stealing from savers to make them pay for crimes by bankers. Via lower interest on savings, all the bank fines for PPI, LIBOR and interest rates swaps are now being paid by savers so that bankers can keep pocketing bonuses.
"We need to make a really big change: from an economy built on debt to an economy built on savings" - David Camoron Jan 2009
"Printing money is the last resort of desperate governments when all other policies have failed" - George Osborne Jan 2009
- So what do Camoron & Osborne do? Print money and leave interest rates at 0.5% when inflation is over 5%
If it is asserted that civilization is a real advance in the condition of man -- and I think that it is, though only the wise improve their advantages -- it must be shown that it has produced better dwellings without making them more costly; and the cost of a thing is the amount of what I will call life which is required to be exchanged for it, immediately or in the long run.
http://classiclit.ab...en-Part-2_4.htm
Did you recognise the two robbers in my avatar? Clue: One got a knighthood and inflation linked pension, the other a 150 year prison sentence.
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Vagabond, on 24 February 2012 - 01:51 AM, said:
Phnom Penh. Awesome. Fact.
Is that just a holiday experience or do you live there?
What's Sihankouville like?
If you say "democorruptcy" quickly, it sounds a bit like "democracy". In a "democracy" people vote for politicians who represent their interests. In the UK's "democorruptcy" people can only vote for expense fiddling thieving MPs who are in the hip pocket of big business and the finance sector.
The Funding for Lending Scheme (FLS) is stealing from savers to make them pay for crimes by bankers. Via lower interest on savings, all the bank fines for PPI, LIBOR and interest rates swaps are now being paid by savers so that bankers can keep pocketing bonuses.
"We need to make a really big change: from an economy built on debt to an economy built on savings" - David Camoron Jan 2009
"Printing money is the last resort of desperate governments when all other policies have failed" - George Osborne Jan 2009
- So what do Camoron & Osborne do? Print money and leave interest rates at 0.5% when inflation is over 5%
If it is asserted that civilization is a real advance in the condition of man -- and I think that it is, though only the wise improve their advantages -- it must be shown that it has produced better dwellings without making them more costly; and the cost of a thing is the amount of what I will call life which is required to be exchanged for it, immediately or in the long run.
http://classiclit.ab...en-Part-2_4.htm
Did you recognise the two robbers in my avatar? Clue: One got a knighthood and inflation linked pension, the other a 150 year prison sentence.
The Funding for Lending Scheme (FLS) is stealing from savers to make them pay for crimes by bankers. Via lower interest on savings, all the bank fines for PPI, LIBOR and interest rates swaps are now being paid by savers so that bankers can keep pocketing bonuses.
"We need to make a really big change: from an economy built on debt to an economy built on savings" - David Camoron Jan 2009
"Printing money is the last resort of desperate governments when all other policies have failed" - George Osborne Jan 2009
- So what do Camoron & Osborne do? Print money and leave interest rates at 0.5% when inflation is over 5%
If it is asserted that civilization is a real advance in the condition of man -- and I think that it is, though only the wise improve their advantages -- it must be shown that it has produced better dwellings without making them more costly; and the cost of a thing is the amount of what I will call life which is required to be exchanged for it, immediately or in the long run.
http://classiclit.ab...en-Part-2_4.htm
Did you recognise the two robbers in my avatar? Clue: One got a knighthood and inflation linked pension, the other a 150 year prison sentence.
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Posted 24 February 2012 - 11:23 AM
What about Singapore?....is that worth writing home about? 
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Posted 24 February 2012 - 12:59 PM
Paddles, on 24 February 2012 - 04:54 AM, said:
Well, speaking as someone who started my working day with a one hour surfing session and is now in the office earning my highest day rate ever, it doesn't feel like I'm having a probiscotomy to annoy my visage.
And as for high achievers being here in Sydney; ha! You should read my blog to set yourself straight on that one. The smart Australians are over in London.
And as for high achievers being here in Sydney; ha! You should read my blog to set yourself straight on that one. The smart Australians are over in London.
Had a look at your blog thanks, very entertaining
Glad it's worked out for you although i'm sure you'll agree for every success there are countless others making the return trip home. My wife's not doing too badly in the UK so obviously I am not bitter about my lot. If I was younger and poorer then I wouldn't hesitate jumping ship, my one regret is that I turned down a £400 a day contracting job for a bank in Germany (I'd be lucky enough to get that a week here now), fully expensed apartment and flights home back in 2001 and joined the forces instead.
This post has been edited by 30k: 24 February 2012 - 01:13 PM
10 years ago we had Steve Jobs, Bob Hope and Johnny Cash - Now we have no Jobs, no Hope and no Cash So, what left? Alcohol.
John Baker, Aberdeen 8/10/2011 22:34
http://www.dailymail...n.html#comments
"the world seems a better place when you're wearing beer goggles".
Quote buried in same article from 27 year old female subject painting the town of Cardiff red on a booze fuelled night out.
John Baker, Aberdeen 8/10/2011 22:34
http://www.dailymail...n.html#comments
"the world seems a better place when you're wearing beer goggles".
Quote buried in same article from 27 year old female subject painting the town of Cardiff red on a booze fuelled night out.