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warsaw,phonhm penh,bangkok,prague,monetivdeo,mexico city,hamburg,manila,dubai,auckland,buenois aaires,lima,shanghai,bogota,vienna,panama city,sydney,jakarta,berlin,malta.
whoever put warsaw in there might want to explain why most polish kids are coming here...land of milk and honey etc
Top Twenty Places To Emigrate For Young People
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 10:40 AM
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 10:44 AM
Zanu Bob, on 23 February 2012 - 10:40 AM, said:
whoever put warsaw in there might want to explain why most polish kids are coming here...land of milk and honey etc
There's probably plenty of jobs in the main cities, it's everywhere else that's the problem. Plus arbitrage.
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 11:09 AM
Why does it talk about emigrating and property investment? Are young people looking to emigrate because all the best properties to flip in the UK have already been flipped, and we need to foister our techniques onto unwitting societies?
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 11:44 AM
Interesting list. There should be at least one caribbean country in there.
Bahamas, Trinidad and Tobago (oil/gas-rich) and Barbados are all worth a look if you can handle the culture change. These countries will be needing a lot of know-how, skills and qualifications in the years ahead that young Brits can offer (education, public service, healthcare, oil industry).
Bahamas, Trinidad and Tobago (oil/gas-rich) and Barbados are all worth a look if you can handle the culture change. These countries will be needing a lot of know-how, skills and qualifications in the years ahead that young Brits can offer (education, public service, healthcare, oil industry).
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 11:55 AM
The Generation Game, on 23 February 2012 - 11:09 AM, said:
Why does it talk about emigrating and property investment? Are young people looking to emigrate because all the best properties to flip in the UK have already been flipped, and we need to foister our techniques onto unwitting societies?
Berlin is a very nice open city....so why then is their property so affordable,why do people there prefer to rent?
....is it because they did not allow a bubble to develop, therefore the people that matter the young, educated and resourceful can afford to stay living in their own country and create future growth and prosperity......you can hardly blame young people from deserting high price property bubble London to seek their fortune elsewhere now can you?
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 12:04 PM
Reading with interest. Feeling really stifled here in the UK at the moment and do feel like I gotta get out soon.
Mrs ska_mna has Oz Visa, so could go there tomorrow. But damn it, the Oz bubble is horrendous too. C'mon, burst already aussie bubble and I'm there!
Failing that, Germany perhaps.
EDIT: I'm a coastal-lovin chap, total water sport addict. Anyone got any recommendations?
Mrs ska_mna has Oz Visa, so could go there tomorrow. But damn it, the Oz bubble is horrendous too. C'mon, burst already aussie bubble and I'm there!
Failing that, Germany perhaps.
EDIT: I'm a coastal-lovin chap, total water sport addict. Anyone got any recommendations?
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 12:24 PM
Bogota, Colombia
Forget Colombia's reputation for crime and drug-barons. These days it has an improving security situation, huge potential for tourism and economic growth, and Bogota is a vibrant city far from the country's less stable parts. Add to this the attractiveness of the indiginous population and low property prices and you're onto a winner.
So, the writer can't spell and thinks the sh*ggability of the locals is an important factor.
Is this article from Nuts magazine or a broadsheet newspaper? It's hard to tell....
Forget Colombia's reputation for crime and drug-barons. These days it has an improving security situation, huge potential for tourism and economic growth, and Bogota is a vibrant city far from the country's less stable parts. Add to this the attractiveness of the indiginous population and low property prices and you're onto a winner.
So, the writer can't spell and thinks the sh*ggability of the locals is an important factor.
Is this article from Nuts magazine or a broadsheet newspaper? It's hard to tell....
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The Credit Crunch :
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The Credit Crunch :
The logical financial outcome is deflation. The logical political outcome is inflation. (Thanks to Injin 21st Sept 2008)
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 12:30 PM
winkie, on 23 February 2012 - 11:55 AM, said:
Berlin is a very nice open city....so why then is their property so affordable,why do people there prefer to rent?
....is it because they did not allow a bubble to develop, therefore the people that matter the young, educated and resourceful can afford to stay living in their own country and create future growth and prosperity......you can hardly blame young people from deserting high price property bubble London to seek their fortune elsewhere now can you?
....is it because they did not allow a bubble to develop, therefore the people that matter the young, educated and resourceful can afford to stay living in their own country and create future growth and prosperity......you can hardly blame young people from deserting high price property bubble London to seek their fortune elsewhere now can you?
Apartment prices rising a lot in Germany but existing home prices falling:
http://www.hypoport....px-hedonic.html
If you say "democorruptcy" quickly, it sounds a bit like "democracy". In a "democracy" people vote for politicians who represent their interests. In the UK's "democorruptcy" people can only vote for expense fiddling thieving MPs who are in the hip pocket of big business and the finance sector.
The Funding for Lending Scheme (FLS) is stealing from savers to make them pay for crimes by bankers. Via lower interest on savings, all the bank fines for PPI, LIBOR and interest rates swaps are now being paid by savers so that bankers can keep pocketing bonuses.
"We need to make a really big change: from an economy built on debt to an economy built on savings" - David Camoron Jan 2009
"Printing money is the last resort of desperate governments when all other policies have failed" - George Osborne Jan 2009
- So what do Camoron & Osborne do? Print money and leave interest rates at 0.5% when inflation is over 5%
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The Funding for Lending Scheme (FLS) is stealing from savers to make them pay for crimes by bankers. Via lower interest on savings, all the bank fines for PPI, LIBOR and interest rates swaps are now being paid by savers so that bankers can keep pocketing bonuses.
"We need to make a really big change: from an economy built on debt to an economy built on savings" - David Camoron Jan 2009
"Printing money is the last resort of desperate governments when all other policies have failed" - George Osborne Jan 2009
- So what do Camoron & Osborne do? Print money and leave interest rates at 0.5% when inflation is over 5%
If it is asserted that civilization is a real advance in the condition of man -- and I think that it is, though only the wise improve their advantages -- it must be shown that it has produced better dwellings without making them more costly; and the cost of a thing is the amount of what I will call life which is required to be exchanged for it, immediately or in the long run.
http://classiclit.ab...en-Part-2_4.htm
Did you recognise the two robbers in my avatar? Clue: One got a knighthood and inflation linked pension, the other a 150 year prison sentence.
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 12:33 PM
ska_mna, on 23 February 2012 - 12:04 PM, said:
EDIT: I'm a coastal-lovin chap, total water sport addict. Anyone got any recommendations?
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SeeYouNextTuesday, on 23 February 2012 - 12:33 PM, said:
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...is that good advise?
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...is that good advise?
what's that phrase about being brave when others a fearful?
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warsaw,phonhm penh,bangkok,prague,monetivdeo,mexico city,hamburg,manila,dubai,auckland,buenois aaires,lima,shanghai,bogota,vienna,panama city,sydney,jakarta,berlin,malta.
whoever put warsaw in there might want to explain why most polish kids are coming here...land of milk and honey etc
warsaw,phonhm penh,bangkok,prague,monetivdeo,mexico city,hamburg,manila,dubai,auckland,buenois aaires,lima,shanghai,bogota,vienna,panama city,sydney,jakarta,berlin,malta.
whoever put warsaw in there might want to explain why most polish kids are coming here...land of milk and honey etc
Jakarta? Manila? Put down the sodding crackpipe....Bland, boring, polluted, one big traffic jam and no subway or public transport. I'd pay money not to live in Jakarta. The Philippines has beautiful islands and beaches - true, but you won't see much of that in Manila. Choke on the fumes, get deafened by the endless blaring on the car horn.
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"The Chinese make things and exchange these with the Americans for paper whose value can be changed on a whim. The Chinese take this paper and ask the Americans for more...they don't exchange them for more productive capacity as that would entail increasing the value of the RMB destroying their competitive advantage. They build the extra capacity using massive amounts of increasingly difficult to service debt.
For those who wonder where this trend will lead, we offer a guess: The average American will be left with loads of cheap consumer goods and the Chinese with a large pile of attractively coloured paper and a debt crisis...."
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"The Chinese make things and exchange these with the Americans for paper whose value can be changed on a whim. The Chinese take this paper and ask the Americans for more...they don't exchange them for more productive capacity as that would entail increasing the value of the RMB destroying their competitive advantage. They build the extra capacity using massive amounts of increasingly difficult to service debt.
For those who wonder where this trend will lead, we offer a guess: The average American will be left with loads of cheap consumer goods and the Chinese with a large pile of attractively coloured paper and a debt crisis...."
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what's that phrase about being brave when others a fearful?
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Bogota, Colombia
Forget Colombia's reputation for crime and drug-barons.
Forget Colombia's reputation for crime and drug-barons.
Sorry, I can't.
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Polster: why did you vote labour?
Labour voter: because I hate Margaret Thatcher
Polster: how old were you when she left Downing st?
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Polster: why did you vote labour?
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Labour voter: 3
(by Robo1968, posted 10/05/2010)
From BBC HYS 15/05/2009:
"Last year, my MP's second home claim was £5,000 more than my total salary and now I find out that he's trying to charge me for cleaning his swimming pool!"
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MY VIEW on whether or not good places to live:
warsaw - CRAP
phonhm penh - CRAP
bangkok - CRAP
prague - CRAP
monetivdeo - CRAP
mexico city - CRAP
hamburg - GOOD
manila - CRAP
dubai - UTTER CRAP
auckland - EARTHQUAKES & TOO REMOTE FROM ANY WESTERN CULTURE
buenois aaires - LOVELY
lima - CRAP
shanghai - GREAT FOR A FEW YEARS
bogota - CRAP
vienna - AH, VIENNA!
panama city - CRAP
sydney - BUBBLE + FULL OF AUSSIES
jakarta - CRAP
berlin - NICE
malta - CRAP
warsaw - CRAP
phonhm penh - CRAP
bangkok - CRAP
prague - CRAP
monetivdeo - CRAP
mexico city - CRAP
hamburg - GOOD
manila - CRAP
dubai - UTTER CRAP
auckland - EARTHQUAKES & TOO REMOTE FROM ANY WESTERN CULTURE
buenois aaires - LOVELY
lima - CRAP
shanghai - GREAT FOR A FEW YEARS
bogota - CRAP
vienna - AH, VIENNA!
panama city - CRAP
sydney - BUBBLE + FULL OF AUSSIES
jakarta - CRAP
berlin - NICE
malta - CRAP
The mighty neo liberal steam roller that crushed all before it from the 1980s to the beginning of the new millennium has morphed in recent years into a Charlie Carioli clown car that now can not go two yards without loud bangs, smoke pouring out of the engine and the doors dropping off. (by stormymonday_2011, posted amidst the Barclays Libor crisis on 02/07/2012)
Polster: why did you vote labour?
Labour voter: because I hate Margaret Thatcher
Polster: how old were you when she left Downing st?
Labour voter: 3
(by Robo1968, posted 10/05/2010)
From BBC HYS 15/05/2009:
"Last year, my MP's second home claim was £5,000 more than my total salary and now I find out that he's trying to charge me for cleaning his swimming pool!"
Polster: why did you vote labour?
Labour voter: because I hate Margaret Thatcher
Polster: how old were you when she left Downing st?
Labour voter: 3
(by Robo1968, posted 10/05/2010)
From BBC HYS 15/05/2009:
"Last year, my MP's second home claim was £5,000 more than my total salary and now I find out that he's trying to charge me for cleaning his swimming pool!"