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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:32 PM

Mortgage broker friend (South East) complains Feb has been his worst month EVER - £zer0. Any panic to beat the stamp duty holiday has probably fallen out of the figures and we had a fall last month anyway. Having said that, I've seen a couple of properties come on in recent weeks (Cardiff) for beyond-stupid asking prices. (There's 'trying it on' and there's barking.) Without looking at previous Febs, I'd guess it's one of those months that always sees a rise and I'm preparing myself for such.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:35 PM

View Postmrpleasant, on 19 February 2012 - 06:32 PM, said:

Mortgage broker friend (South East) complains Feb has been his worst month EVER - £zer0. Any panic to beat the stamp duty holiday has probably fallen out of the figures and we had a fall last month anyway. Having said that, I've seen a couple of properties come on in recent weeks (Cardiff) for beyond-stupid asking prices. (There's 'trying it on' and there's barking.) Without looking at previous Febs, I'd guess it's one of those months that always sees a rise and I'm preparing myself for such.

easy to call +1.5% at least guaranteed 100%
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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:45 PM

It's the 'spring bounce' innit.... :lol:

blah blah blah. :rolleyes:

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:47 PM

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:52 PM

Asking prices are irrelevant.
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Posted 19 February 2012 - 07:26 PM

View Postlurker07, on 19 February 2012 - 06:52 PM, said:

Asking prices are irrelevant.


Yep, this index is a waste of time. It only dropped about 6% at the worst other than that it's been roughly the same since 07.
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Posted 19 February 2012 - 07:28 PM

+5.3%

(Feels like my area contributed most to the rise)
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Posted 19 February 2012 - 07:57 PM

Was a big jump last February that will fall out of the numbers.(+3.10 % to £230,030)
YOY change should bomb to -2.6% even if they say this month was flat and prices stay around £224,000 Posted Image Asking prices that is.Posted Image

Could cause some nice headlines tomorrow, but only if Greece situation doesn't go boom !!

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 08:06 PM

View Postsatch, on 19 February 2012 - 06:35 PM, said:

easy to call +1.5% at least guaranteed 100%


Agreed. Although, lack of new stock = EAs getting more desperate to win new instructions = even more ludicrous valuations.

A 3 or 4% wouldn't even surprise me - cue Miles telling vendors that they're deluded, fundamentals won't support rises like this etc etc.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 08:18 PM

This index is NOT seasonally adjusted. In the hope of any Spring Bounce (ha ha!) I would expect UP something in the region of 3%.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 08:43 PM

Always +ve in Feb!!!

2005 +2.3%
2006 +2.7%
2007 +0.9%
2008 +3.2%
2009 +1.2%
2010 +3.2%
2011 +3.1%

In my opinion, anything below 1.2% would be interesting. Also, I remember the previous report where they highlighted a 1.6% increase in two weeks during January. I would not be at all surprised to see a figure around 3% tho - got to keep the public confidence in piles of bricks high :angry: .

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 09:55 PM

View Postdanlee74, on 19 February 2012 - 08:43 PM, said:

Always +ve in Feb!!!

2005 +2.3%
2006 +2.7%
2007 +0.9%
2008 +3.2%
2009 +1.2%
2010 +3.2%
2011 +3.1%

In my opinion, anything below 1.2% would be interesting. Also, I remember the previous report where they highlighted a 1.6% increase in two weeks during January. I would not be at all surprised to see a figure around 3% tho - got to keep the public confidence in piles of bricks high :angry: .


Are these mom then?


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 10:14 PM

View Postlurker07, on 19 February 2012 - 06:52 PM, said:

Asking prices are irrelevant.

I absolutely agree! The only thing that counts is sold prices and transaction numbers. The number of sales going through is fairly low. So many houses come back on with anew agent trying it on again. The difference in price between 'homes that are selling' and the asking prices of 'homes that stay on the shelf' is now very substantial indeed. It is as if 2 markets are apparent. One with a flicker of reality attached and another in the parrallel universe where a few old victorian bricks and a new kitchen= £up to a million pounds in London or even a half million elsewhere.

Spoke to an agent on Friday - looked at a rental which is also for sale - he was strangely loose with info - no interest in the property as a sale atall - 3 viewers for rent - all had put in vastly lower rent offers (30% below asking). So we put in a 25% below rent offer. Lovely house, but half the price to rent than buy. Does that tell you anything? SE

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 10:26 PM

It will be up. The media will latch on to it in a frenzy, as will EAs. It is all meanginless. Banks are lending less and the housing market appears caught up in spin and hype.
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Posted 19 February 2012 - 10:54 PM

View Post!EURO!, on 19 February 2012 - 09:55 PM, said:

Are these mom then?


Yes ... http://www.forexfact...hp#chart=40583.

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