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#1 User is offline   The Knimbies who say no 

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 12:46 AM

From 'The Times', whatever that is. Can't see the full article. Classic Labour, do they ever learn. They are preparing the ground to 'consolidate all your debts into one easy payment'. There have been rumblings for a while about the state of the Party's coffers, I guess this is more fuel on the fire. I don't think Ed will be able to bank much from the unions..

The disgruntled local officials ought to reflect on being shafted by top-down centralised diktat. Might knock a bit of sense into some of them to see how it is to be on the receiving end of their 'Government knows best' garbage for a change. If Labour treats its own like this, seems a fair assumption that everyone else has no chance. I hope this makes big news tomorrow.

If anyone has the rest of it, it would make a good read.

Of course, if any of these local associations grow a pair and refuse to do it, it might get interesting. Doubt that'll happen though.

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Revolt over Labour’s raid on its local party assets

Labour is forcing local parties to hand over their headquarters buildings, enabling it to shore up its precarious finances, The Times has learnt. The move allows the party, which has a deficit of millions of pounds, to raise loans against the properties. It has caused unrest in constituency offices, which have been told that they will be thrown out of Labour unless they agree to sign over their assets. Several have told The Times of their anger at having to give up ownership of the buildings. They have been told to transfer the deeds of the properties into a company controlled by the national party. Letters sent out to constituencies that oppose the ruling state that complying is a “pre-condition of continued affiliation to the party”. Peter Watt, who served as Labour’s general secretary when the party narrowly avoided bankruptcy, said that it was right that local members helped to sort out its finances. “I think [the party] is doing a terrific job at stabilising the…

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/


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The Knimbies who say"No"! said:

The knimbies who say "No" demand..... a sacrifice!
Arthur: Knimbies of No, we are but simple hardworking families who seek affordable housing on the scrubland beyond these woods.
Knimbies of No: No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No!
Bedevere: Please stop opposing our reasonable demands!
Knimby of No: We shall say "No" to you... if you do not appease us.
Arthur: Well what is it you want?
Knimby of No: We will allow you to build your precious high density shoeboxes, so long as you do not move so much as....

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 01:20 AM

It sounds like a re-run of the Labour Party's much advertised adverse financial circumstances before Blair/Brown gained control and supposedly "reinvented" Labour. Reinvented - farce.

After that everything was suddenly supposed to be financially hunky dory for Labour.

These days I dont believe much if any of such stuff as published. If the politicians will totally lie about cast iron manifesto promises then they will certainly be economical with the truth about their own party's financial circumstances.

If only voters had known then what they know now, "No more boom and bust, prudence, no more housing booms, BoE controlling responsible interest rate policies, no more sleaze etc etc".

That's not to say that the Tory/LibDems (Coalition) are different.

Giving them money is like handing the banks money on a plate.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 01:21 AM

Money for Nothing :rolleyes:

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 padington, on 02 December 2013 - 08:53 AM, said:

No need to sell up, the next phase of the economics cycle is going to be very positive for anyone that owns property.

All I'm sayings is, don't listen to the property bears people, they are wrong.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 01:35 AM

There was a story in my local paper a few weeks ago (can't find it online; sorry) to the effect that all the Labour councillors in York were under orders from Central Office to claim every last penny they were eligible to in expenses, mileage, allowances and so on, and then forward all but a tiny fraction of it to the central party's coffers, such was the dire state of their finances. Of course that is why they'll fight tooth and nail to avoid a cap on union donations.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 02:11 AM

From what I can read on a graphic of the front page, Labour have a deficit of 7.5 million pounds.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 02:48 AM

This tells you everything you ever need to know about the statist left. Maybe a few members will wake up, but I doubt it.
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Posted 18 January 2012 - 07:13 AM

Nice to see they run their own finances in the same way as they ran the country!

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 08:11 AM

View PostTiger Woods?, on 18 January 2012 - 02:48 AM, said:

This tells you everything you ever need to know about the statist left. Maybe a few members will wake up, but I doubt it.


It'd be so much better if they just took donations from fraudsters(LD) or the hedge fund industry

http://www.guardian....ested-caribbean

http://www.ft.com/cm...l#axzz1jnLyGBFt

Biggest problem for Labour is their drift rightwards economically. Including their recent statements that they would copy the Conservative spending plans (Yay! Stagnation forever!).

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 08:26 AM

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 09:33 AM

View Postcheeznbreed, on 18 January 2012 - 12:46 AM, said:

Labour Party Finances In Dire Straights?


HPC spelling in dire straits too?

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 10:28 AM

After an election, the losing party always has financial problems, as doners are unwilling to donate to a party that doesn't have the power to pass laws reflecting their interests.

Put simply, you only pay bribes to people in power.
It's time to pay the piper. There is no magician who will magic away the debt. Someone is going to have to pay it. Bend over and prepare to make payment.

In this glorious nation of ours, if you work hard and keep your head down for 25 years then you too can aspire to own one-eighth of a one bedroom flat in Manchester.


My mum and day always tell me how important it is to save to buy a house. They should know, it took them nearly 6 months to save for theirs. As teenagers, they bought a 3 bed semi.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 10:29 AM

View Postwhoami, on 18 January 2012 - 09:33 AM, said:

HPC spelling in dire straits too?

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 padington, on 02 December 2013 - 08:53 AM, said:

No need to sell up, the next phase of the economics cycle is going to be very positive for anyone that owns property.

All I'm sayings is, don't listen to the property bears people, they are wrong.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 10:54 AM

View Postwhoami, on 18 January 2012 - 09:33 AM, said:

HPC spelling in dire straits too?


Changed, 'soz' and 'fanx'

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View Postdances with sheeple, on 12 November 2013 - 12:22 PM, said:




The Knimbies who say"No"! said:

The knimbies who say "No" demand..... a sacrifice!
Arthur: Knimbies of No, we are but simple hardworking families who seek affordable housing on the scrubland beyond these woods.
Knimbies of No: No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No!
Bedevere: Please stop opposing our reasonable demands!
Knimby of No: We shall say "No" to you... if you do not appease us.
Arthur: Well what is it you want?
Knimby of No: We will allow you to build your precious high density shoeboxes, so long as you do not move so much as....

(pregnant pause)

A SHRUBBERY!!!!

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 10:55 AM

View PostRufflesTheGuineaPig, on 18 January 2012 - 10:28 AM, said:

After an election, the losing party always has financial problems, as doners are unwilling to donate to a party that doesn't have the power to pass laws reflecting their interests.

Put simply, you only pay bribes to people in power.


This doesn't quite cut it though, as the problems have been rumbling on for a few years now. I suppose the same applies to a fag-end Government, but the consistent message seems to be that Labour will always spend more than they have, irrespective of the numbers involved.

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The Knimbies who say"No"! said:

The knimbies who say "No" demand..... a sacrifice!
Arthur: Knimbies of No, we are but simple hardworking families who seek affordable housing on the scrubland beyond these woods.
Knimbies of No: No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No!
Bedevere: Please stop opposing our reasonable demands!
Knimby of No: We shall say "No" to you... if you do not appease us.
Arthur: Well what is it you want?
Knimby of No: We will allow you to build your precious high density shoeboxes, so long as you do not move so much as....

(pregnant pause)

A SHRUBBERY!!!!

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 11:04 AM

Party funding needs to go on the taxpayers bill, nasty as that may sound.
All other donations banned with severe prison sentences for all who flout the rules.
It's the only way to re-establish democracy to at least a small extent.
If you want to know what the next political move will be, ask yourself what will suit the banks, and behold, the answer will come to you.

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