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#16 User is offline   Executive Sadman 

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 08:28 PM

Things didnt end well for JFK, Robin Cook, Jorg Haider or Pym Fortyn, and very nearly didnt end well for Farage. Doesnt matter if youre on the left or right. The establishment does not like dissent.

He will lose or he will die. That is what history has shown. Every. Single. Time.
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 09:23 PM

View PostWhat, on 03 January 2012 - 07:25 PM, said:

Compared to Mitt Romney with a net worth of $202 million, he's working class.


Quite. An american politition with such a small amount of wealth just hasn't been trying hard enough.........!
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 09:24 PM

View PostExecutive Sadman, on 03 January 2012 - 08:28 PM, said:

Things didnt end well for JFK, Robin Cook, Jorg Haider or Pym Fortyn, and very nearly didnt end well for Farage. Doesnt matter if youre on the left or right. The establishment does not like dissent.

He will lose or he will die. That is what history has shown. Every. Single. Time.

+1.

At his age, not even any need for a bullet.
Just strap him in a room with a young lady and his heart will probably go pop.
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 10:21 PM

I'd love it if he won tonight. Just talks so much sense on so many things.

At least it would kick things up a bit.

I think the world is looking for something different. The mainstream press don't matter that much anymore.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 10:22 PM

View Postwellandpower, on 03 January 2012 - 09:24 PM, said:

+1.

At his age, not even any need for a bullet.
Just strap him in a room with a young lady and his heart will probably go pop.


If being stuck in a room with Bruno didn't do it, I think he'd survive. :)

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 10:37 PM

Given that he wants an audit of the FED, the banks will finance any/every other candidate to beat him...

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 11:10 PM

View PostSour Mash, on 03 January 2012 - 06:52 PM, said:

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Obama should be completely vulnerable in view of his abysmal track record and the fact that many former supporters are deserting him but it seems that there's not a single Rep who stands a chance of winning.
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Obama should be reelected, along as there's not a big economic disaster before the election.

This could be a blessing in disguise, as there's probably going to be a big economic/governmental collapse in the US sometime during his 2nd term (2013-2017), and the Democrats would get most of the blame for it.

With any luck, the Republicans can hold onto the House, to prevent state/local bailouts, federal assumption of public pensions, massive stimulus programs, confiscation of 401-K's, gold, and bank accounts, etc. It's usually bad when one party or the other has a monopoly of power in Washington DC. Better to have gridlock.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 11:36 PM

View PostWhat, on 03 January 2012 - 07:02 PM, said:

And the last Republican president was a crusader who kept Wall St honest and didn't introduce the Patriot Act - probably the single biggest erosion of liberties for US citizens in history - was he? :lol:

Let's face it, Obama didn't have much to live up to. By not starting two foreign wars he was already off to a flying start.


Hmm.. I'm sure I didn't mention Bush in my post, let me just see.... (checks).

Nope, didn't say a thing about him. No idea why you therefore went off on one about W. I can only assume you are creating a strawman to avoid addressing the issues that I raised.

I am, for the record no fan of Bush but at least he had the excuse of being a clueless stooge whereas Obama knows exactly how duplicitous he is being.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 11:52 PM

Ron Paul may win tonight - he may even do well in New Hampshire and come second but he will bomb in the southern states of South Carolina and Florida. His views foreign affairs are simply seen as too anti Israel and pro Muslim.

The alterrnatives are scary though - Romney is a Wall Street man (you might as well elect the CEO of Goldman Sachs to the White House) but the surge now seems to be for Rick Santorum a truly scary catholic fundamentalist. I really fear for the world if he wins the White House.

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 02:10 AM

Ron Paul is a no-brainer choice for the 2012 Dead Pool. If he continues to do well in the polls he will either meet with an untimely "heart attack" or will get DSK'd. As he seems a fairly principled chap, I suspect the former will be the selection option.
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 09:47 AM

BREAKING NEWS: Ron Paul accused of "serious financial irregularities", advised to give up GOP bid
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 09:49 AM

View PostTHEBIGMAN, on 04 January 2012 - 09:47 AM, said:



He's never gonna give you up

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 09:54 AM

View Postthecrashingisles, on 04 January 2012 - 09:49 AM, said:

He's never gonna give you up


He's never gonna let you down, either.

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 10:00 AM

View PostReck B, on 04 January 2012 - 09:54 AM, said:

He's never gonna let you down, either.


He won't u-turn around either.
It's time to pay the piper. There is no magician who will magic away the debt. Someone is going to have to pay it. Bend over and prepare to make payment.

In this glorious nation of ours, if you work hard and keep your head down for 25 years then you too can aspire to own one-eighth of a one bedroom flat in Manchester.


My mum and day always tell me how important it is to save to buy a house. They should know, it took them nearly 6 months to save for theirs. As teenagers, they bought a 3 bed semi.

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 10:26 AM

View PostRufflesTheGuineaPig, on 04 January 2012 - 10:00 AM, said:

He won't u-turn around either.

....or desert you.
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