[switters]

Americans start to believe in miracles. Slowly the GOP gets ground down by the relentless numbers of people voting. Paul wins the presidential nomination, beats Obama on the basis he's not full of sh@t.and is new president in Nov.

Immediatelt orders disengagement from Iran. Economy still screwed, dollar collapses when powerful bankers pull plug to destabilise further, temporary martial law started to maintain control.

Oil shock caused by devalued dollar leads America to recalls aircraft carriers to protect own shores when cannot afford to pay government workers . China expands into Africa and Middle East to control resources

City of London still doing well investing in the BRIC economies. House prices stay bouyant, crash is averted.

Triples all round.

Happy New Year

[Sour Mash]

switters, on 03 January 2012 - 06:45 PM, said:

Americans start to believe in miracles. Slowly the GOP gets ground down by the relentless numbers of people voting. Paul wins the presidential nomination, beats Obama on the basis he's not full of sh@t.and is new president in Nov.

Immediatelt orders disengagement from Iran. Economy still screwed, dollar collapses when powerful bankers pull plug to destabilise further, temporary martial law started to maintain control.

Oil shock caused by devalued dollar leads America to recalls aircraft carriers to protect own shores when cannot afford to pay government workers . China expands into Africa and Middle East to control resources

City of London still doing well investing in the BRIC economies. House prices stay bouyant, crash is averted.

Triples all round.

Happy New Year

Not much chance of him actually being the Republican candidate and assuming by some miracle he did get the candidature, not a hope in hell against Obama unfortunately.

Ron Paul is one of the few politicians with a clue but unfortunately he totally lacks widespread voter appeal or populism. (Did anyone see that clip in the Brüno film? Apparently he was lured to the fake interview by being told he would be speaking to an 'Austrian economist'. Very apt).


Obama should be completely vulnerable in view of his abysmal track record and the fact that many former supporters are deserting him but it seems that there's not a single Rep who stands a chance of winning. Almost as if the whole thing was orchestrated to keep him 'doing the good work' for Wall St and continuing the programme of stripping away civil liberties. He's just an American Tony Blair character in my view - lots of big money behind him and I'm sure a very lucrative career after he leaves the Oval Office as he collects the payola.

[The Masked Tulip]

[Gone baby gone]

Sour Mash, on 03 January 2012 - 06:52 PM, said:

Obama should be completely vulnerable in view of his abysmal track record and the fact that many former supporters are deserting him but it seems that there's not a single Rep who stands a chance of winning. Almost as if the whole thing was orchestrated to keep him 'doing the good work' for Wall St and continuing the programme of stripping away civil liberties. He's just an American Tony Blair character in my view - lots of big money behind him and I'm sure a very lucrative career after he leaves the Oval Office as he collects the payola.

And the last Republican president was a crusader who kept Wall St honest and didn't introduce the Patriot Act - probably the single biggest erosion of liberties for US citizens in history - was he?

Let's face it, Obama didn't have much to live up to. By not starting two foreign wars he was already off to a flying start.

[LuckyOne]

Ron Paul resonates surprisingly well with younger people who can see what is happening to their country.

He is not part of the "elite". The right to bear arms in the US keeps politicians a bit more honest when times get tough than in some other countries.

http://www.telegraph...-Christmas.html

[Little Professor]

LuckyOne, on 03 January 2012 - 07:09 PM, said:

Ron Paul resonates surprisingly well with younger people who can see what is happening to their country.

He is not part of the "elite".

Net worth of $3.9million. Yep, he's just like one of us.

[Gone baby gone]

Little Professor, on 03 January 2012 - 07:18 PM, said:

Net worth of $3.9million. Yep, he's just like one of us.

Compared to Mitt Romney with a net worth of $202 million, he's working class.

[thecrashingisles]

Little Professor, on 03 January 2012 - 07:18 PM, said:

Net worth of $3.9million. Yep, he's just like one of us.

He is 76 and still working... That's the sort of net worth that any professional person would achieve by that age unless they fritter their money away.

[Wig]

I've been following the GOP campaign pretty closely over the past few months. Since stumbling across an article on Ron Paul as it happens.

Its crazy how much the 'establishment' in the US don't want Paul to win. Few months ago when he was polling in the top 3/4 he was completely ignored by the mainstream media, to the extent they'd read out all the names and ignore his. loads of stuff on youtube of cnn and particularly fox showing remarkable bias against him. google 'ron paul ignored' john stewart has a cracking bit about it.

Now he's polling ever more popular and it looks like might even win the Iowa caucus(?) CNN and fox are now saying if he does win it, it just means that Iowa no longer means anything in the scheme of things, and they need to focus on who comes second in Iowa as the real frontrunner.

It seems ludicrous to the extent you couldn't make it up but there is a clear and huge bias against him moreso than any other candidate. The reason from what I can tell is that he is the only candidate who is anti big-government, anti wall street controlling washington, anti current foreign policy ie invade country that has dark skin and/or oil. And he wants to audit/end the federal reserve. He's anti establishment and the establishment appear to be running scared!

Guy talks so much sense, has a strong grasp on [austrian] economics, called the US subprime collapse sometime back in 2005-6, and more than anything comes across as consistent and dare I say it honest. He's hit a nerve with young people in america has a huge internet following but remains to be seen how that translates to the real vote...

Thing is his views and policies represent such a threat to the status quo and to so many VIs throughout america and probably the world that you have to wonder if 'they' will let him win anyway. Compelling viewing to follow from afar, he seems to have captured the mood of the american people right now, if not the 'sheeple'

[LJAR]

I desperately want Paul to win.

Unfortunately I think the 1990 newsletters mean he hasn't got a hope in hell.


He is actually one of the only GOP candidates that might stand a chance against Obama, in the polls I saw (old ones) the other lot are all seen as another identikit politician who will talk big and do nothing.



I would love to see him win in Iowa, win the nomination and then start taking the federal government to pieces. Never gonna happen though.

[Lone_Twin]

What, on 03 January 2012 - 07:25 PM, said:

Compared to Mitt Romney with a net worth of $202 million, he's working class.

On paper he is on a par with the couple who own the big house at the end of my street.
Hardly stratospheric wealth. (though I wouldnt mind it!)

[Nuggets Mahoney]

What, on 03 January 2012 - 07:25 PM, said:

Compared to Mitt Romney with a net worth of $202 million, he's working class.

Given that Paul's been in Washington for 30 years, $3.9m must qualify him as being practically destitute

Going forward I suspect that at least some of Paul's supporters believe that Paul is going to climb into a rebel fighter, pop a single well-aimed shot into a Death Star, bring down the Empire with a single blow and fly back home in time for muffins

In reality he probably won't and they will be sad


edit: fair play to Paul trying though, but I'm waiting for Paul to team up with Jesse Ventura, my personal favourite libertarian intellectual heavyweight, before I start taking his presidential bid seriously

This post has been edited by Charlton Peston: 03 January 2012 - 08:10 PM

[dothemaths]

Wig, on 03 January 2012 - 07:31 PM, said:

Its crazy how much the 'establishment' in the US don't want Paul to win.

He's the only honest one out there so he won't be allowed to win.
If he manages against the odds to get the Republican nomination, he'll have a heart attack or something before polling day.

[ozmunky]

thecrashingisles, on 03 January 2012 - 07:29 PM, said:

He is 76 and still working... That's the sort of net worth that any professional person would achieve by that age unless they fritter their money away.

A la George Best

[interestrateripoff]

In a bizarre way the fact he's being totally ignored by the mainstream media might work for him.

If he can harness the internet and make his pitch I'm not the elite, just look how they are ignoring me he could pull it off.

However if it looks like he's getting close to the White House I'd expect him to have a accident.