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#61 Si1

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 07:52 PM

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#62 spyguy

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 08:52 PM

Don't think I read thid.

My comment on teachers i baed on my experience up to my O levels (84).
Our town had one school -no 'good' or 'bad' split, every one went to it - a handful who went to a very small public school.
I was in the top stream i.e. doing 7 O levels.

Of my teachers, 30% should have been sacked then and there. It was embarrassing having to sit there and watching them fail to read the course work nook.
When the inspectors bang on about preparing for lessons they at least mean remembering which chapter you were reading - and which book/subject.
Nothing more than register tickers.

Another 30% might be OK for tutorial type classes- with some intensive retraining - or just reading the s*dding course book.

30% were OK to good. Bear in mind these were O -levels i.e 150 hours over 2 years, you are not talking anything really complex or hard.

I started to pick up during A levels because I'd given up on lessons and just read the books, which brings me to the point - How many teachers add any value above the course book? Why not find a good teacher, video him/her teaching, chuck in some good course books and pay the students to pass the exams?

I've made these comments to teachers - I hesitate to say peers, lets say same age group - and I get some waffle about 'soft' culture growing up etc. What a load of w*nk.

ps. Don't get me started on FE colleges - nothing more than a job creation scheme for the intellectually sub-normal.

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 10:34 PM

Sit the teacher down in an undersized chair with the crayons and explain:

"Mr & Mrs Private produce 5 Oranges. Mr Public takes 3 off them.

Mr Public keeps one for himeself, gives 1 to Mr & Mrs Private's retired parents, and gives one to Mr Teacher.

Mr Teacher is also smirkingly amused that Mrs Public is to lose her job, and and will thus produce no oranges.

Mr Teacher still thinks that an extra orange will appear for him when he retires.

Explain where this orange will magically appear from. Show your working."

#64 Byron

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 10:35 PM

* Eighties house price bubble - Thatcher

* Energy companies - Thatcher

* Banks - Thatcher

* Wage inequality - Thatcher

* WTO - Thatcher

* Financialisation - Thatcher

* Tax cuts for the wealthiest - Thatcher

Continued by " We're all Thatcherites now" NuLiebour

It's really not difficult to grasp, even for Hayekians.

Jack the Ripper- Thatcher
World War One and Two-Thatcher
Korean war-Thatcher
Traffic wardens-Thatcher
Winter of discontent-Thatcher
Sold all the gold-Thatcher
etc. etc. etc.

#65 MrWallace

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 11:17 PM

I don't mean to sound rude but I really think you and your primary school teacher mate are wasting your time favouring one of the mainstream parties over the other.

They're all the same really, politicians gave their power over to 'the markets' long ago, and they plan to keep it that way too.

If Labour were in power unemployment would be like it is now as they wouldn't be able to do much to force private enterprises to create jobs either. All the cuts would be happening too and they would have raised VAT as well. Their promises don't mean anything. Labour are owned by exactly the same group of people who own the Tories.

Its like this. Pretty much all politicians of all the mainstream parties will always take the side of a higher social/economic class over another. For example, they will always favour landlord over their tenants, but if landlords get into trouble they will always side with the bankers over the landlords.

The only difference is with policies that the mega wealthy aren't untied about; such as the right to protest, free speech, ID cards and other civil liberties. Labour really dislike individual freedom and want as much state control over people as possible in order to socially engineer them into what they want them to be. Labour were also pretty keen on filling up the jails as fast as possible and criminalising as many things as they could, as quickly as they could. Labour will generally sell you a peerage too whilst the Tories will had them out to folk born with a silver spoon in their mouth, but really there is not a lot of difference between them when it comes to things like employment and the economy.

What always surprises me though, is how come Labour's core vote of Social Democratic voters are so stupid that they vote for them time and time again? Don't they realise that when your vote can be taken for granted your views become worthless to these people?

Labour introduced the non-dom tax break for foreign billionaires, it was such a break that I believe the IMF listed the UK as a tax haven for foreign nationals until 2008.

Labour kept all the Tories buy-to-let legislation and engineered a housing (price, not building) boom to transfer wealth from the young and the less well off to the better off and the baby boomers.

Labour built less council housing than the Tories and continued to sell it off.

Labour introduced tuition fees because their goal was, as Tony Blair put it, 'to create a market in higher education'. They're totally cool with the market in elementary education too and Labour politicians, even the so called 'left-wing' ones, generally send their children to private schools.

Labour increased the gap between rich and poor, during Labours term in office the earnings of the richest 0.1% soared and the bottom 50% of earners got poorer in real terms.

Labour well and truly reversed social mobility. Senior Labour politicians like Harrett Harmen claim they're concerned about inequality amongst different sub-groups, race, religion, gender etc... but they one group they're not interested in is the working class. They're so far detached from the plights of ordinary working people that they don't even seem to be able to relate to them.

Labour boasted about their "light touch" regulation and let the capitalist cowboys in the City of London, dodge taxes, run riot and blow up the banks and then bailed them all out with tax payers money when they did it and allowed them to return to business as usual.

Labour MPs ripped off the tax payer with their expense claims at least as badly as MPs from every other party too.

Why anybody who believes in social democracy turns out to vote for a party like that is beyond me. At least Conservative voters believe in the massive inequality they're voting for...


Show your teacher mate my comments if you will, because I'd honestly like to hear what a Labour voters has to say about these things. If I knew any Labour voters who were social democrats I'd ask them myself but up here they've all switched to the SNP in disgust (not because they want independence).

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 07:45 AM

Labour well and truly reversed social mobility. Senior Labour politicians like Harrett Harmen claim they're concerned about inequality amongst different sub-groups, race, religion, gender etc... but they one group they're not interested in is the working class. They're so far detached from the plights of ordinary working people that they don't even seem to be able to relate to them.


One very noticable change that has occurred since Bevan is that Labour changed from being the party of 'the working man' to being the party of 'the public sector worker and client state'

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 11:52 AM

What is it with so many teachers? That's exactly how they are.


Many of them are institutionalised i.e. school -> 6th form -> uni -> teacher training -> back to school. They're not very good at talking to anyone except other teachers and kids.
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Posted 27 December 2011 - 09:12 PM

The biggest joke of the latter Labour Government under Gordon Brown was his statement.

BRITISH JOBS FOR BRITISH WORKERS. :rolleyes: Herein lays the true problem.
I have been studying the European Economic Community which became the European Community and finally becoming the European Union since the 1st January 1973. As each year passed the stench of corruption, financial recklessness, and Dictatorship has got totally out of control.

In an interview,( on holiday in the exclusive Swiss ski resort of Davos ) the Liberal Democrat leader was asked whether he was in charge while the Prime Minister was away from Britain travelling in the Middle East. Sipping from a mug marked “Deputy Prime Minister,” he said: “Yeah, I suppose I am. I forgot about that.( Proves what a total berk he is )

Cameron must learn the basic rule in politics and life ( Put brain in gear before putting mouth in motion ) and Miliband with no direct British Lineage should dig a hole and disappear down it.

Is Nicholarse Elcleggski ( 25% British ) insane? Who, in their right mind would willingly appease the French and Germans?

In our Country today THE TRUTH MUST NEVER BE SPOKEN, I will leave you all with your very bleak future as I will be gone.

The Lib/Dems who over the years have supported the demise of the moral and accepted standards we were all brought up to respect. The party who would lead us the way of the Ancient Greek and Roman Empires. We can Add David Cameron and Ed Miliband as Leaders of their parties who are heading for the buffers

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 12:31 PM

So, have you seem the teacher again yet?

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 09:03 AM

So, have you seem the teacher again yet?


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