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#16 General Melchett

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 10:33 AM

http://www.mindfulmoney.co.uk/

Check out the homepage... on the right hand side... :lol:


ROTFL!
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#17 The Ayatollah Buggeri

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 10:36 AM

I like how they ignore the wider implications and that we are just focussed on house prices...


And also that this article doesn't mention BTL at all.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 10:37 AM

F*** them. They had no empathy for anyone sensible who stayed out, braying about how much more they were worth every 6 months, and now they want us to pay for their mistakes. ******** to them.


Don't get worked up. As the OP on the frontpage said, they are VI's.

The only thing I thought when they tried to summarise housepricecrash as a group with no sympathy for lost souls was 'when do you stop feeling sorry for a drug addict and start to take action instead'. The endless property porn TV get rich quick schemes have themselves robbed generations of life, and this forum gives a voice to that opinion. Don't mention that one do they, nope too close to the truth for a VI. "Keep giving me my daily fix of 'my house has increased in value by £500 this week' party banter".

I'll never flip about my stance. Houses are to live in. Turning them into investments (aka unearned retirement funds) is as evil as speculating on food prices but that's another topic. You're robbing people of a basic requirement since the start of time, shelter.
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Posted 22 September 2011 - 10:38 AM

This outfit is a PR front for the banks.

The Social Business Group is the publisher of Mindful Money; a Social News and Knowledge Network for the investment community, created in conjunction with HSBC, Henderson and Schroders.


:o

Well spotted. I would never have guessed!




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Posted 22 September 2011 - 10:40 AM

A special 'save our homes' tax that strategically targets renters would be the best solution.


Alternatively, an 'Adopt a debtor' charity special could be set up.




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Posted 22 September 2011 - 10:48 AM

Basically contributors appear to be frustrated would-be first-time buyers who resent renting and are hoping prices will "crash" so they can cash in.


cash in ???


cash in ???

all we wanted was housing at the same cost as everyone else had, not at 300% inflated prices. (which they regard now as 'normal')
its them who are trying to cash in. you couldnt make up this mass denial. they are so selfish they are prepared to bankrupt the country.

did anyone see the newsnight clip about rural planning ?

pans to a leafy village green and a thached pub. what sickened me was the pub had the nerve to fly the union jack.
these festering selfish nimbies are opposed to anything that disturbs their views. they were all in their late 50s+
they didnt want wind farms. houses or anything. they just wanted their own little ignorant areas to continue on,
regardless of the cost to others. these people put the value of a blade of grass above that of a child in poverty.

they make me PUKE, and i would want that flag removing, as these are the people who are choking our country and the fabric of our society to death. they are the most un loyal and un british people you could imagine. what happened to fairness ? that was supposed to be a british trait. i could have ripped that flag down.

sickening, and to read the OPs post, endemic mindset of even the most lowly home owner.
if you have overpaid in 2004+, then it is YOU that hold the losses. hanging on like this is busting the country.

i hope they bulldoze the planning laws into the soil and begin a huge program of affordable houses.
if not, this country will NEVER recover from this and all those nimbys will soon be fleeing the country,

take that flag down.
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Posted 22 September 2011 - 10:49 AM

I think the author has been a bit selective about whom he's chosen to castigate and hasn't given a balanced view of the contributors to this site. I'm a Home Owner (emphasis for his benefit not yours) so I'm alright Jack, but most certainly the upcoming generations will not be without a real house price correction. He looking from a very narrow point of view and isn't considering the wider implications not only for the individual but the economy as whole.

My reason for having been here for the past 6 years even though I OWN MY OWN HOME is for my son, younger members of the family and their friends who haven't got a hope in hell of buying or saving for their own home with the high cost of rents and living expenses these days. If things continue the way they are their last gasp of hope will be that they will inherit from their parents but I expect TPTB will find a way of relieving them of that as well. I'll save my sympathy for them and all the other young people who may never get a look in rather than those feckless credit card junkies and greedy speculators who borrowed way beyond their means and should now be crying their tears of self pity as the banks foreclose, but hey, as usual, the market is fixed :angry:

Edited by Solitaire, 22 September 2011 - 10:49 AM.


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Posted 22 September 2011 - 10:54 AM

F*** them. They had no empathy for anyone sensible who stayed out, braying about how much more they were worth every 6 months, and now they want us to pay for their mistakes. ******** to them.


Well said.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 11:05 AM

i hope they bulldoze the planning laws into the soil and begin a huge program of affordable houses.
take that flag down.


Forget it. The government have absolutely no intention of making "affordable housing" available. It's just another meaningless political soundbite. And exactly what would a state sponsored "affordable house" be, anyway. For "affordable", read "cheap and nasty in an undesirable area?" Forgive my skepticism.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 11:11 AM

Forget it. The government have absolutely no intention of making "affordable housing" available. It's just another meaningless political soundbite. And exactly what would a state sponsored "affordable house" be, anyway. For "affordable", read "cheap and nasty in an undesirable area?" Forgive my skepticism.


i think the government have finally realised they have no choice and they are going to have to sacrifice them or face total collapse.
like facing down a public sector strike. they cant pay them anymore because they have already took far more than the goverment (taxpayer) ever had. its over for the nimbies. they are going to be taken to greenbelt building kicking and screaming, but they are going. or the country collapses.

the government now know this i feel. they are trying to pussy foot them, and the nimbies wont even go with that, so i think within the next 3-6 months, the government will simply roll over them as they are the most unloyal, selfish people in the country and produce nothing but financial stagnation and collapse.

greece has a similar problem. they refuse to accept reality. so they go on strike. well go on strike. striking will not change things.
a complete refusal to deal with reality. stagflation - collapse.

go bulldozers go !!!
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Posted 22 September 2011 - 11:15 AM

as for the original link and comments. dont waste your time on these people.
in their world black is white and bad is good. your wasting your time.

ignore them. the opinions they hold are extinct.
i am boethius. author of the consolation of philosophy. it is my belief that fortune is a wheel. inconstancy is my very essence says the wheel. rise up on my spokes if you like, but dont complain when your cast back down into the depths. good times pass away, but then so do the bad. mutability is our tragedy, but its also our hope. the worst of the times, like the best. are always passing away.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 11:19 AM

haha:

http://www.mindfulmo...s-we-trust.html

Social Media: In Forums We Trust



Nice... Reckon that's gagging for some comments too...

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 11:19 AM

as for the original link and comments. dont waste your time on these people.
in their world black is white and bad is good. your wasting your time.

ignore them. the opinions they hold are extinct.


There will be many who will be reading that article (who aren't "regulars" of that site) who can be "turned" though.. ;)

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 11:44 AM

Err, we were right. See my signature.
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----------------------- Peak ---------- Trough -(% trough fall) - Current - (% from peak) - (% from Trough)

Halifax: -------------- Aug07 199,612 - Apr09 154,490 (-22.60%) - Oct09 165,528 (-17.08%) - (+07.14%)

Nationwide: ----------- Oct07 186,044 - Feb09 147,746 (-20.59%) - Oct09 162,038 (-12.90%) - (+09.67%)

Rightmove: ------------ May08 242,500 - Jan09 213,570 (-11.93%) - Nov09 226,440 (-06.62%) - (+06.03%)

DCLG (formerly ODPM): - Jan08 221,758 - Mar09 187,193 (-15.59%) - Jul09 196,338 (-11.46%) - (+04.89%)

Land Registry (Mth): -- Nov07 186,009 - Apr09 152,803 (-17.85%) - Sep09 158,377 (-14.86%) - (+03.64%)

FT HPI: --------------- Feb08 231,804 - Apr09 199,953 (-13.74%) - Aug09 205,338 (-11.42%) - (+02.69%)

Land Registry (Qtr): -- Q307 230,474 -- Q109 198,939  (-13.68%) - Q209 224,064  (-02.78%) -- (+12.63%)


Topic Link: http://www.housepric...howtopic=127421
Links: Halifax, Nationwide, Rightmove, Land Registry (monthly), Land Registry (Raw data - Quarterly).
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Posted 22 September 2011 - 11:44 AM

Sibley has posted a comment!! :lol: :lol: :lol:




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