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HOLA441
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About to begin it's next leg up.

I like to follow Nadeem Walayat of marketoracle's inflation megatrend theory and have accumulated heavily during the recent downturn (just about breaking even on what I bought today).

It will be an extremely bumpy rollercoaster of a ride but this has been a bull market correction in my opinion.

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HOLA442
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About to begin it's next leg up.

I like to follow Nadeem Walayat of marketoracle's inflation megatrend theory and have accumulated heavily during the recent downturn (just about breaking even on what I bought today).

It will be an extremely bumpy rollercoaster of a ride but this has been a bull market correction in my opinion.

After last months bum raping I piled in heavily and am now about 5% up plus dividends which are flowing in steadily

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HOLA443
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After last months bum raping I piled in heavily and am now about 5% up plus dividends which are flowing in steadily

Which stock did you buy last month which has already paid you a dividend?

Or have I misunderstood?

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HOLA444
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Pumping in liquidity because 'household name' banks would otherwise go bust = great time to get into shares. It's not just investment banking that is a casino, but the whole stock market.

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HOLA445
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Which stock did you buy last month which has already paid you a dividend?

Or have I misunderstood?

I have been buying since February but purchased a large bundle last month.

At present

Expenditure including SD & trade costs £37107

Total value of holding at mid point £38,621

Dividends to date for 2011 £855

I reckon that leaves me about 6.4% up at the end of today

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HOLA447
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I have been buying since February but purchased a large bundle last month.

At present

Expenditure including SD & trade costs £37107

Total value of holding at mid point £38,621

Dividends to date for 2011 £855

I reckon that leaves me about 6.4% up at the end of today

it's kinda tacky to use absolute nos. %s please in future.

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HOLA448
Posted

I'm piling into cleaning my neighbours homes/doing old people favours, heavy lifting etc. (for tea, biscuits, sandwiches, bit o meat and tatty pie, and beer), first class stamps and job application sites.

Ladder, aldi value washin up liquid, watter and bucket soon, the recovery is ON!

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HOLA449
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I soooooooooooooooo hope he's right. :)

me too. It makes me salivate to think about picking up shares at 40% of todays prices. Of course you will need to ignore the background market panic that will be accompanied by such a drop if you want to make money.

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HOLA4411
Posted

About to begin it's next leg up.

I like to follow Nadeem Walayat of marketoracle's inflation megatrend theory and have accumulated heavily during the recent downturn (just about breaking even on what I bought today).

It will be an extremely bumpy rollercoaster of a ride but this has been a bull market correction in my opinion.

He is a clever man, but he could be wrong this time. The argument is about inflation or deflation and in fact there is both. Unless the sovereign debt problems are actually satisfactorily resolved he will be calling a return to a rising stock market too early in my view. It's all on a knife edge and I beleive there is more down time to do yet. The 30's will tell you that and the big second leg down has not yet happened this time - on that basis we are on the shoulders of the head and shoulders pattern, riding for a much steeper fall. Back then it took 20 years to recover (but we'll accept there was a WW11 in there) .

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HOLA4412
Posted

It will only be a bull run because of the next round of printing money. When that stops, shares will slump again.

Meanwhile, we all get poorer, because the pound gets trashed.

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HOLA4414
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It will only be a bull run because of the next round of printing money. When that stops, shares will slump again.

Meanwhile, we all get poorer, because the pound gets trashed.

In fact it's doing crap over the last month

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HOLA4415
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Only on HPC can folks state the MASIF gains they're getting with no losses in sight lol.

Will I hell plunge into more shares, too risky - from now on trackers only. I see gold's back down now, if it falls below $1700, could be a good time to buy back in.

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HOLA4416
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Only on HPC can folks state the MASIF gains they're getting with no losses in sight lol.

Will I hell plunge into more shares, too risky - from now on trackers only. I see gold's back down now, if it falls below $1700, could be a good time to buy back in.

Whether £1=100 or not it's always good to get on with your neighbours...

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HOLA4417
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Only on HPC can folks state the MASIF gains they're getting with no losses in sight lol.

Will I hell plunge into more shares, too risky - from now on trackers only. I see gold's back down now, if it falls below $1700, could be a good time to buy back in.

Whether £1=100 or not it's always good to get on with your neighbours...

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HOLA4418
Posted (edited)

Just tired of hearing BS about making the right call and getting 200% back on stellar investments (even though they don't need it as they're 25 t/o with an income of £150k+). Really starting to take everything on here with a very large pinch of salt lol..

Edited by guitarman001
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HOLA4419
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The stock market goes up on news of another proven failure of the free market. We might as well move to the point where central banks/governments simply set share prices by decree.

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HOLA4420
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He is a clever man, but he could be wrong this time. The argument is about inflation or deflation and in fact there is both. Unless the sovereign debt problems are actually satisfactorily resolved he will be calling a return to a rising stock market too early in my view. It's all on a knife edge and I beleive there is more down time to do yet. The 30's will tell you that and the big second leg down has not yet happened this time - on that basis we are on the shoulders of the head and shoulders pattern, riding for a much steeper fall. Back then it took 20 years to recover (but we'll accept there was a WW11 in there) .

His reply to that point is that the market was a lot lower then than now, so the trend either from the '29 peak, or from the '30s bottom, was strongly up. Very useful is you have a 90 year investment horizon.

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HOLA4421
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Just tired of hearing BS about making the right call and getting 200% back on stellar investments (even though they don't need it as they're 25 t/o with an income of £150k+). Really starting to take everything on here with a very large pinch of salt lol..

I don't know where anybody mentioned achieveing stellar investment returns on this thread.

Some of my paper losses are quite stunning at the moment.

I buy very few individual shares and prefer ETFs to track sectors/countries.

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HOLA4422
Posted (edited)

I reckon that leaves me about 6.4% up at the end of today

So you just about managed to beat inflation by a small margin... ( before taxes...)

and of course it's all theoretical until you actually sell.

Edited by awake_eagle
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HOLA4423
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It was coming.

Amazing losses on my end, too.

The stock market goes up on news of another proven failure of the free market. We might as well move to the point where central banks/governments simply set share prices by decree.

+1

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HOLA4424
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The stock market goes up on news of another proven failure of the free market. We might as well move to the point where central banks/governments simply set share prices by decree.

On HPC the market isnt allowed to go up by decree it seems, its about 15% down from a couple of months ago and has gone precisely nowhere the last month+. Its impossible for it to go up or down in a straight line without opposite moves, thats its nature

Daily, weekly moves are really just white noise, maybe its wiser to look at the stockmarket as its own entity, it goes where it wants based on interactions of millions of people at any moment in time, the stock market fundamentally drives the news (by creating the mood) rather than the other way round, it moves and we simply then look for a reason or news as to why its done what its done even if that news is actually irrelevant, its a nice crutch to have,

Edited by Tamara De Lempicka
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