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Britons With Holiday Homes In France Face £700-A-Year Tax As Sarkozy Looks To Raise Cash Daily Mail catches up with HPC Rate Topic: -----

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 10:32 AM

£700 a year on a £350k house?

If it's 20% of the imputed rent surely a £350k house would rent for more than £3,500 a year?

This quote is hilarious:

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Trevor Leggett, Chief Executive of French estate agents Leggett Immobilier, said: 'The French property market has only just weathered the storm created by the incompetence of the banking sector, and could now be led into even more turbulent waters by the political manoeuvring of the current government.

'This proposed tax of 20 per cent is an idea that came about without any consultation of those of us within the industry.

'With the current, favourable, taxation regime in France an increasing number of UK and European citizens are looking to retire over here and we believe that there are far more efficient and equitable ways for the government to balance the books. '


Even little estate agents have a "Chief Executive"
The French property market bubbled because of the banks
An estate agent (English) wants the French government to ask his permission about what they can do! (France is not like the UK!)
People retiring over there will not have to pay this new tax - if more people sell up it's good news for them if prices fall

This post has been edited by Redhat Sly: 12 June 2011 - 10:34 AM

If you say "democorruptcy" quickly, it sounds a bit like "democracy". In a "democracy" people vote for politicians who represent their interests. In the UK's "democorruptcy" people can only vote for expense fiddling thieving MPs who are in the hip pocket of big business and the finance sector.

The Funding for Lending Scheme (FLS) is stealing from savers to make them pay for crimes by bankers. Via lower interest on savings, all the bank fines for PPI, LIBOR and interest rates swaps are now being paid by savers so that bankers can keep pocketing bonuses.

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- So what do Camoron & Osborne do? Print money and leave interest rates at 0.5% when inflation is over 5%

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 12:20 PM

View Postdoccyboy, on 12 June 2011 - 09:59 AM, said:

old news and many threads - merged with recent one.



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CRIMBOCASTS for y/e 2013

1. The Euro will have another bad year and may hit parity with the US$ before the end of the year.
2. The Pound will not move much against the dollar (range 1.47-1.60) but is likely to regain a lot of ground verses the Euro which may not survive. US $ will be a safe bet, especially ST bonds and large caps.
3. Stocks should finish moderately higher than 2012 barring a war with Korea and Iran.
4. Gold will not be flying to the moon (again) and will bitterly disappoint (again) any who got in during the run up in 2011.
5. House prices: Flattish to up single digits overall..
6. Not much in the way of inflation again this year--those who forecast hyperinflation will be proven wrong (again--as in 2011 and 2012)
7. Could see a snap GE after the May elections which will be the worst result EVER for Dave. UKIP continue to make headway and will be number 3 before year end.

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 10:06 AM

I'd stick the tax up to 40% or 50%. This would get the market moving again. There are a lot of French families who have a 2nd or 3rd home inherited from 1 or 2 generations back. The laws in France means they are shared with the surviving kids , grandkids. In many cases, the property is kept as the family members can't agree to sell it. I've got French relations who are in this situation. Due to one being a stubborn cow, the house reamins unoccupied for 45weeks of the year, except for the times her and her offspring decide they need a holiday. She thinks having a 2nd home makes her rich :D

For all those other foreigners with a residence in France who are unhappy at the new tax. Tough titty. If you can't pay / won't pay, go elsewhere. The CAC40 companies are scamming the country by paying little or no tax. Individuals are seen as a soft and easy target. I'd much rather see the CAC40 companies taxed, but as the govt doesn't want to do this, I'd rather someone else with a bit more spare cash than the average Smicard (french min national wage earner) cough up the money.

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 08:09 AM

View PostAgentimmo, on 13 June 2011 - 10:06 AM, said:

I'd stick the tax up to 40% or 50%. This would get the market moving again. There are a lot of French families who have a 2nd or 3rd home inherited from 1 or 2 generations back. The laws in France means they are shared with the surviving kids , grandkids. In many cases, the property is kept as the family members can't agree to sell it. I've got French relations who are in this situation. Due to one being a stubborn cow, the house reamins unoccupied for 45weeks of the year, except for the times her and her offspring decide they need a holiday. She thinks having a 2nd home makes her rich :D

For all those other foreigners with a residence in France who are unhappy at the new tax. Tough titty. If you can't pay / won't pay, go elsewhere. The CAC40 companies are scamming the country by paying little or no tax. Individuals are seen as a soft and easy target. I'd much rather see the CAC40 companies taxed, but as the govt doesn't want to do this, I'd rather someone else with a bit more spare cash than the average Smicard (french min national wage earner) cough up the money.



I'd stick the tax up to 40% or 50%

Not 0% then

http://www.telegraph...-in-France.html


"British people help rejuvenate some of our countryside and have a very positive influence, and we should be grateful,"

This is very true. Many derelict properties that the French wouldn't bother with have been brought bsack to life by Brits who have injected welcome money into rural economies via the taxes they already pay and on the money they put into local businesses. Far better to buy a second home in France that doesn't deprive someone else of a first home as is the case in the UK.
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Posted 20 June 2011 - 08:56 AM

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"British people help rejuvenate some of our countryside and have a very positive influence, and we should be grateful,"

What a load of BS.
Still, if he believes that then good luck to him.

So that's the French property crash averted for another X months , as the Brits will now keep their properties after being saved from a £700 tax. Whew ! ;)

Sarkozy might not be the president in 11 months time.....be thankful for small mercies.

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