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I saw a job today that made me wish I was 15 years younger, but right now, it would suit me fine. Less stress than I am used to, a walk in the park.
I add an enormous amount of value, but how could you persuade them to take me rather than a youngster? How much can you dumb down your CV? I have freelance work currently, but this job is tempting. I can manage on the low wages.
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Posted 16 August 2010 - 12:10 PM
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Posted 16 August 2010 - 12:25 PM
won't you get bored if your over skilled?
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I have bought a newish (5 years) house in November 2006. I talked the vendor down 30% off peak 2004 price am am paying less than the 2002 price. I feel prices will continue to drop down to the 2001 price but saving for 5 years hopefully means i wont be stung. The price i am paying isn't much above the price the vendor paid for the place when it was new in 2000. However some idiot is trying to flog an identical house on my road for 55k above the price i paid, one month later!?!?! The housing market is frothy, no-one ever knows what the value of a house is, the value is what someone is willing to pay, make sure you pay alot less than the asking price.
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QUOTE (Rolling Stone 13th July 2000)The first thing you need to know about Goldman Sachs is that it's everywhere. The world's most powerful investment bank is a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money.
QUOTE (Soon Not a Chain Retailer @ Aug 30 2009, 01:03 AM) Society should provide trampolines not safety nets.
QUOTE (GordonBrown Jan 27 2008 (warning about the coming inflation?))if you don't get the skills you wont get a job
if you get the skills you will earn ALOT of money
Free to collect, like ebay but you dont pay, you just have to collect
QUOTE (sledgehead)If you make a living from something, you are a professional something: it is your profession. You could bake dog turds and flog them as ornaments. If that's how you make your living, you ARE a professional dog-turd baker. Period
QUOTE (Rolling Stone 13th July 2000)The first thing you need to know about Goldman Sachs is that it's everywhere. The world's most powerful investment bank is a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money.
QUOTE (Soon Not a Chain Retailer @ Aug 30 2009, 01:03 AM) Society should provide trampolines not safety nets.
QUOTE (GordonBrown Jan 27 2008 (warning about the coming inflation?))if you don't get the skills you wont get a job
if you get the skills you will earn ALOT of money
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Posted 16 August 2010 - 12:30 PM
Tonkers, on 16 August 2010 - 12:10 PM, said:
I saw a job today that made me wish I was 15 years younger, but right now, it would suit me fine. Less stress than I am used to, a walk in the park.
I add an enormous amount of value, but how could you persuade them to take me rather than a youngster? How much can you dumb down your CV? I have freelance work currently, but this job is tempting. I can manage on the low wages.
I add an enormous amount of value, but how could you persuade them to take me rather than a youngster? How much can you dumb down your CV? I have freelance work currently, but this job is tempting. I can manage on the low wages.
I wouldn't dumb down your cv, make it relevant to the role though, and just put together a well worded covering letter giving good reasons why you want the job and that you will stick at it for a decent length of time.
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Posted 16 August 2010 - 01:03 PM
worzel, on 16 August 2010 - 12:30 PM, said:
I wouldn't dumb down your cv, make it relevant to the role though, and just put together a well worded covering letter giving good reasons why you want the job and that you will stick at it for a decent length of time.
I did that recently. Didn't get the courtesy of a reply.
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Posted 16 August 2010 - 01:13 PM
Jadoube, on 16 August 2010 - 01:03 PM, said:
I did that recently. Didn't get the courtesy of a reply.
Also a small industry so there is an element of risk, applying for 'lowlier' posts, in regards to appearances. They certainly don't want to hear that I want a stress free life for a couple of years! Thing is the trade off is very good for the company, but then you can't have the office admin piping up with quarterly forecasts, better profit margins, and hey, I could build that website for you! Tax return? No problem! With that need to deals perhaps frustrating me. Truth is then, there might not be any going back, without brain surgery.
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Posted 16 August 2010 - 01:14 PM
Tonkers, on 16 August 2010 - 12:10 PM, said:
I saw a job today that made me wish I was 15 years younger, but right now, it would suit me fine. Less stress than I am used to, a walk in the park.
I add an enormous amount of value, but how could you persuade them to take me rather than a youngster? How much can you dumb down your CV? I have freelance work currently, but this job is tempting. I can manage on the low wages.
I add an enormous amount of value, but how could you persuade them to take me rather than a youngster? How much can you dumb down your CV? I have freelance work currently, but this job is tempting. I can manage on the low wages.
Why dont you find the job you really want?
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Posted 16 August 2010 - 02:21 PM
Jadoube, on 16 August 2010 - 01:03 PM, said:
I did that recently. Didn't get the courtesy of a reply.
That happens to most job applications.
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Posted 16 August 2010 - 04:31 PM
Caveat Mortgagor, on 16 August 2010 - 01:14 PM, said:
Why dont you find the job you really want?
True, just sometimes feel like I was shot out of my last career with a cannon and am still orbiting the Earth.
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Posted 16 August 2010 - 07:05 PM
Many people are overskilled these days, not least the army of graduates who go from grappling weighty intellectual concepts one moment to dishing up burgers and fries the next.
I've known several people over the last few years who've climbed greasy poles and found themselves in 35k+ executive roles only to discover upon losing those jobs that they really have to look many rungs below to get a sniff.
If I lost my average salary job now and needed work in a hurry I'd be under no illusions that 12k might be all I could hope for. It's the brave new world of 75% jobs growth in the lowest paid sectors.
Train everyone to be a rocket scientist and you'd find rocket scientists cleaning toilets.
I've known several people over the last few years who've climbed greasy poles and found themselves in 35k+ executive roles only to discover upon losing those jobs that they really have to look many rungs below to get a sniff.
If I lost my average salary job now and needed work in a hurry I'd be under no illusions that 12k might be all I could hope for. It's the brave new world of 75% jobs growth in the lowest paid sectors.
Train everyone to be a rocket scientist and you'd find rocket scientists cleaning toilets.
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Posted 16 August 2010 - 09:50 PM
Tell them you're the perfect candidate because you only live round the corner.....
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Shall walk this world, in credit, to his grave..'
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Posted 20 August 2010 - 04:05 PM
CrashedOutAndBurned, on 16 August 2010 - 07:05 PM, said:
Many people are overskilled these days, not least the army of graduates who go from grappling weighty intellectual concepts one moment to dishing up burgers and fries the next.
I've known several people over the last few years who've climbed greasy poles and found themselves in 35k+ executive roles only to discover upon losing those jobs that they really have to look many rungs below to get a sniff.
If I lost my average salary job now and needed work in a hurry I'd be under no illusions that 12k might be all I could hope for. It's the brave new world of 75% jobs growth in the lowest paid sectors.
Train everyone to be a rocket scientist and you'd find rocket scientists cleaning toilets.
I've known several people over the last few years who've climbed greasy poles and found themselves in 35k+ executive roles only to discover upon losing those jobs that they really have to look many rungs below to get a sniff.
If I lost my average salary job now and needed work in a hurry I'd be under no illusions that 12k might be all I could hope for. It's the brave new world of 75% jobs growth in the lowest paid sectors.
Train everyone to be a rocket scientist and you'd find rocket scientists cleaning toilets.
Yeah also, how many people who get jobs in companies stay at the same level - no management, no encouragement , life is made difficult if they try to move internally in the company- while at the top its musical chairs bosses moving around from position to positions - and letting no one else into their club
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Posted 20 August 2010 - 04:39 PM
CrashedOutAndBurned, on 16 August 2010 - 07:05 PM, said:
Many people are overskilled these days, not least the army of graduates who go from grappling weighty intellectual concepts one moment to dishing up burgers and fries the next.
I've known several people over the last few years who've climbed greasy poles and found themselves in 35k+ executive roles only to discover upon losing those jobs that they really have to look many rungs below to get a sniff.
If I lost my average salary job now and needed work in a hurry I'd be under no illusions that 12k might be all I could hope for. It's the brave new world of 75% jobs growth in the lowest paid sectors.
Train everyone to be a rocket scientist and you'd find rocket scientists cleaning toilets.
I've known several people over the last few years who've climbed greasy poles and found themselves in 35k+ executive roles only to discover upon losing those jobs that they really have to look many rungs below to get a sniff.
If I lost my average salary job now and needed work in a hurry I'd be under no illusions that 12k might be all I could hope for. It's the brave new world of 75% jobs growth in the lowest paid sectors.
Train everyone to be a rocket scientist and you'd find rocket scientists cleaning toilets.
That is the point tho' really. We need to be training artisians - plumbers, builders, plasterers, and electricians, instreas of conning everyone that a degree is a must have.
They did this with trainers and golfers T shirts. 'Bout time someone cottoned on that they are being led by the nose.
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Posted 20 August 2010 - 05:05 PM
It entirely depends on the boss. I have hired two massively over-qualified older (>55) workers. They both stressed in their CVs that they were keen to work in a specific area and were not worried about seniority, pay or promotion. On paper they might have had an outside chance of my job but that didn't put me off.
I grilled them both very heavily in interview and they convinced me that they actually wanted the job for itself, not as a short-term fix.
They are both excellent, one has been in place for two years and is happy to stay there.
The one factor that would have stopped me from taking them on would be a history of illness, but that would equally apply to a young person.
I grilled them both very heavily in interview and they convinced me that they actually wanted the job for itself, not as a short-term fix.
They are both excellent, one has been in place for two years and is happy to stay there.
The one factor that would have stopped me from taking them on would be a history of illness, but that would equally apply to a young person.
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