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Posted 29 July 2010 - 01:44 PM

http://online.wsj.co...729-713225.html

JULY 29, 2010, 8:55 A.M. ET.2nd UPDATE: UK Money Growth Weak, M4 Lending Lowest On Record
By Natasha Brereton
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

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LONDON (Dow Jones)--The Bank of England's preferred measure of broad money supply marked a slower pace of growth in June, while M4 lending logged its weakest annual rate on record, underscoring the challenges facing the U.K. economy.

The softer tone of the data support analysts' expectations that the central bank will maintain its extremely loose policy stance for some months to come, and make no change at its meeting Aug. 5.

Figures released by the BOE Thursday showed money supply, excluding financial institutions whose activities distort underlying trends, edged up 0.2% in June after a 0.9% increase in May. In three-month annualized terms, money supply expanded 6.0%, also slower than the previous month, when the measure rose 8.9%.

Broad money lending, meanwhile, contracted 0.3% on the month after a 0.2% decline in May. In annual terms, money lending fell 0.2%, after rising 0.5% a month earlier, and marking the weakest rate since records began in the fourth quarter of 1998.

While the figures are volatile, "this will no doubt support the Monetary Policy Committee's suspicions that the recent pick-up has been largely due to a shift in seasonal variations," said Vicky Redwood, senior U.K. economist at Capital Economics.

The minutes of the MPC's July meeting noted that movements in the deposits of financial corporations, including insurance companies and pension funds, may be distorting the figures. As a result, the Bank is reviewing its seasonal adjustment method.

The BOE has highlighted growth in broad money supply--which historically has expanded by around 6% to 9% on the year--as a key indicator of the effectiveness of its GBP200 billion quantitative-easing policy of buying bonds with freshly created central-bank money.

The MPC suspended its bond purchases in February, but has left the door firmly open to extending the program should conditions deteriorate. It has also kept its key interest rate at an all-time low of 0.5% for 17 straight months.

While inflation is now expected to remain above its 2.0% target for the rest of the year, BOE Governor Mervyn King told lawmakers Wednesday that the continued weakness of broad money supply growth suggests that inflationary pressures aren't building.

He stressed that the central bank needed to keep monetary policy extremely loose to support the recovery, and said that while the MPC could decide to increase stimulus further or raise interest rates slightly in coming months, it wasn't about "applying the brakes."

The BOE is in the process of reviewing its forecasts ahead of its quarterly Inflation Report next month.

M4 lending to households was stable in June, rising 0.1% on the month and 1.3% on the year, matching May's figures.

Lending to corporates picked up slightly in monthly terms, declining 0.4% after May's 0.6% fall.

But its annual drop of 4.4% was worse than a 4.3% decrease in May, and marked the joint weakest rate since the central bank started collecting data in the second quarter of 1964.

Some analysts suggested the implications of the corporate lending data may be less negative than they appear, noting that the pace of contraction in loans to firms seemed to accelerate in recent months, at a time when investment spending was starting to recover.

"Our suspicion is that much of the weakness on this side of the lending data is about demand rather than supply: firms are able to finance higher investment spending out of their cash flow, retained earnings, or with finance provided by non-banks," said Malcolm Barr, economist at JPMorgan Chase Bank.


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Posted 29 July 2010 - 02:00 PM

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The BOE has highlighted growth in broad money supply--which historically has expanded by around 6% to 9% on the year--as a key indicator of the effectiveness of its GBP200 billion quantitative-easing policy of buying bonds with freshly created central-bank money.


Doesn't that tell us that there has been something very wrong, for some time?

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"Our suspicion is that much of the weakness on this side of the lending data is about demand rather than supply: firms are able to finance higher investment spending out of their cash flow, retained earnings, or with finance provided by non-banks," said Malcolm Barr, economist at JPMorgan Chase Bank


Yup, people have borrowed too much and don't want any more. Maybe people are wising up?

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 02:23 PM

BIG question is when do we get QE2? You could'nt have it this autumn as this is when the austerity measures will be outlined further and this would cause anamosity in the public sector.

Surely QE2 is pencilled in for next summer? So that indicates the best buying opportunity with a mortgage to be a year and half to 2 years time?

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 02:39 PM

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The BOE has highlighted growth in broad money supply--which historically has expanded by around 6% to 9% on the year


Exponential growth.

Has this growth been matched by productivity increases in the economy?

Printing our way to wealth.

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 02:46 PM

Max Keiser has spoke of this today................he sez Vince has an "Understanding" with the banks NOT to lend out while they try to patch their balance sheets. Trouble is their simply is not enough money in the Galxey to fill the black hole on the books!

My take:- QE2 is not far off, by sept ish.............the only thing holding up the £ is the FED buying our gilts while we buy their bonds..........that can't go on. Once we are forced to the markets & they suss that we "talk" of cuts but make none THEN things will happen!

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 04:17 PM

On the Bank Return listed under Assets "other" accounts for 85% of the total. It's useful that "other" isn't it?

http://www.bankofeng.../2010/index.htm
Did you spot the difference?

One is in line for a knighthood and public sector pension while the other a 150 year prison sentence.

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 04:20 PM

View PostMega, on 29 July 2010 - 02:46 PM, said:

Max Keiser has spoke of this today................he sez Vince has an "Understanding" with the banks NOT to lend out while they try to patch their balance sheets. Trouble is their simply is not enough money in the Galxey to fill the black hole on the books!

My take:- QE2 is not far off, by sept ish.............the only thing holding up the £ is the FED buying our gilts while we buy their bonds..........that can't go on. Once we are forced to the markets & they suss that we "talk" of cuts but make none THEN things will happen!

Mike


Is that the 'special relationship'?

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 04:24 PM

View PostNoodle, on 29 July 2010 - 05:20 PM, said:

Is that the 'special relationship'?

I think they describe it as eating your own vomit, or in this special case, eating each other's vomit.
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View PostMinos, on 29 July 2010 - 04:24 PM, said:

I think they describe it as eating your own vomit, or in this special case, eating each other's vomit.


Thai chap said to me the other day Western economies looked like Asia 1997 x 1000. 'We can't figure out how they all go to football matches' he said.

'Oh it goes much, much deeper than that', was my reply.


Oh shiiiit! :o

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 04:32 PM

View PostMega, on 29 July 2010 - 03:46 PM, said:

Max Keiser has spoke of this today................he sez Vince has an "Understanding" with the banks NOT to lend out while they try to patch their balance sheets. Trouble is their simply is not enough money in the Galxey to fill the black hole on the books!

My take:- QE2 is not far off, by sept ish.............the only thing holding up the £ is the FED buying our gilts while we buy their bonds..........that can't go on. Once we are forced to the markets & they suss that we "talk" of cuts but make none THEN things will happen!

Mike


how does one justify bailing more banks when their "product", loans, is in decline?

there are too many.
Its not a house price boom, its a credit feast and now its time for the hangover
No bankers were harmed in the making of this bailout

Your
country is at risk
if you
do not keep up repayments
on a gilt or other loan secured on it


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Posted 29 July 2010 - 06:30 PM

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The creditless recovery


That's nothing, our creative american friends have the "The Recoveryless Recovery"

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