Nationalist Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8554345.stm Up to 270,000 civil servants are to strike for 48 hours over redundancy pay, in what will be the biggest unrest by the sector in more than two decades.Courts, ports, job and tax centres and emergency police call centres will be hit by the walkout by members of the Public and Commercial Services Union. The union says civil servants will lose up to a third of their entitlements, worth thousands of pounds. The government said other civil service unions agreed the changes were fair. The PCS union said its striking members will include staff at government departments, as well as workers in Parliament, museums and the Royal Courts of Justice. The brothers from the PSCU are out and lighting brassiers as we speak. If anyone is in any way inconvenienced by their absence from work feel free to report here... Quote
papag Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8554345.stm The brothers from the PSCU are out and lighting brassiers as we speak. If anyone is in any way inconvenienced by their absence from work feel free to report here... The only thing that will be apparent is that the roads will be less busy today Quote
porca misèria Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 Nice weather for a long weekend Heard union chief Mark Sarwotka (or however you spell him) on the wireless this morning. Bunch of crap, but also a very valid point about contractual entitlements, and one-law-for-bankers-bonuses ... Quote
aa3 Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 Placards seen- 'Save our non-jobs' 'When we're gone who will regulate the size of your windows'? Quote
buytoilet Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 Placards seen- 'Save our non-jobs' 'When we're gone who will regulate the size of your windows'? http://www.potato.org.uk/ A range of industry related information, including press releases, potato market reports, an events calendar, production issues, and information. Quote
capcave Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 If this wasnt on the news who'd really have noticed? Quote
Tin Foil Hat Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 I wish I'd gone to the office today now. All they do is google and news websites except for chatting, coffee and an occasional bit of folder shuffling and photocopying. And the photocopying has it's own dedicated person so the file is passed to someone else to do this! I shit you not. Quote
benn Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 The only thing that will be apparent is that the roads will be less busy today you're absolutely spot on with that one. i forgot they were on strike as i drove in today and wondered why it was SO quiet. just shows how big the public sector is. Quote
Ologhai Jones Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 The brothers from the PSCU are out and lighting brassiers as we speak. They're burning their bras? Quote
Timm Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 you're absolutely spot on with that one. i forgot they were on strike as i drove in today and wondered why it was SO quiet. just shows how big the public sector is. Same here. Quote
Bloo Loo Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 50 on strike in the docks....only takes one to leave the gate in the closed position. Quote
robo1968 Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 The last few times I have come back on a flight to the U.K it always makes me smile when I get to Passport control to see a big 'Welcome to Britain' sign hung from the ceiling and below it a row of halfilled booths without a white person in sight....... And I still have to queue for ages. Atleast today they'll have an excuse for being more crap and surly than usual for 2 days Quote
worzel Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 Did I hear correctly that one of the things they were stroking for was that the redundancy payments would be capped at two years salary? Why on earth would anyone get more than two years salary redundancy? most people have to make do with a fraction of this. I suppose you could argue that if you get made redundant from the public sector you are most likely unemployable and therefore would need two year salary to keep you going until the public sector was hiring again. Quote
Tin Foil Hat Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 Did I hear correctly that one of the things they were stroking for was that the redundancy payments would be capped at two years salary? Why on earth would anyone get more than two years salary redundancy? most people have to make do with a fraction of this. I suppose you could argue that if you get made redundant from the public sector you are most likely unemployable and therefore would need two year salary to keep you going until the public sector was hiring again. Obviously HMG is prepping for big rounds of cuts and doesn't want to pay the redundo. Quote
ccc Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 Did I hear correctly that one of the things they were stroking for was that the redundancy payments would be capped at two years salary? Why on earth would anyone get more than two years salary redundancy? most people have to make do with a fraction of this. I suppose you could argue that if you get made redundant from the public sector you are most likely unemployable and therefore would need two year salary to keep you going until the public sector was hiring again. Heard the bod on TV this morning. Apparently it is due to the fact that public sectory pay is so much lower than the private sector ? Now this may have been true a decade ago but these days I think it is far closer. Now it is a fair point about contractual agreements and how the Banks have got away with it. However where does it all end ? Does everyone just get everything they want because the Banks took the piss and got away with it? The bod also said that over 100,000 of their workers earn less than 15k per year. He didn't say, and wasn't asked, how many of these were full time employees and how many were part time. Quote
CokeSnortingTory Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 What is going to be interesting is to see how many formerly ultra-pc civil servants mutate into racists when they realise that immigrant labour is cutting into their wages down on the strawberry farm. Quote
porca misèria Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 The bod also said that over 100,000 of their workers earn less than 15k per year. He didn't say, and wasn't asked, how many of these were full time employees and how many were part time. Red herring. The cap on redundancy pay was only for much higher earners. Those on under £30k aren't affected. But the point about one rule for bankers stands. I've thunk of another point here. Workers in (much of) the private sector are used to being double-crossed by their management. It may be that the public sector have different expectations, involving promises being kept. Quote
aa3 Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 http://www.potato.org.uk/ A range of industry related information, including press releases, potato market reports, an events calendar, production issues, and information. Lol we'd be lost without them. It took me awhile to realize that site wasn't a joke. Especially with the links also ran by the same council: www.lovepotatoes.co.uk www.potatoesforcaterers.co.uk www.potatoesforschools.org.uk www.lovechips.co.uk www.potatoposters.co.uk Quote
cockrobin Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 "Under the new system - which takes effect in April and will save about £500m - those laid off and taking voluntary redundancy will have their pay-offs capped at £60,000." My heart bleeds! My sister inlaw is a nurse, has been for only 3 years. She constantly complains about her pay and conditions. She get paid 26k and chooses to work nights. She didn't believe that my wife and I earn less than her in the private sector. Quote
SHERWICK Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 They're burning their bras? and that's just the men. Quote
funinhounslow Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 The last few times I have come back on a flight to the U.K it always makes me smile when I get to Passport control to see a big 'Welcome to Britain' sign hung from the ceiling and below it a row of halfilled booths without a white person in sight....... And I still have to queue for ages. Atleast today they'll have an excuse for being more crap and surly than usual for 2 days ??? What's your point? What does the ethnic origin of immigration officers have to do with anything? If I had to spend my working day dealing with people like you I might be a bit surly too. Quote
robo1968 Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 (edited) "Under the new system - which takes effect in April and will save about £500m - those laid off and taking voluntary redundancy will have their pay-offs capped at £60,000." My heart bleeds! My sister inlaw is a nurse, has been for only 3 years. She constantly complains about her pay and conditions. She get paid 26k and chooses to work nights. She didn't believe that my wife and I earn less than her in the private sector. A friend of mine used to run a factory as a manager/supervisor. He had a lot of hassle and stress and was eventually made redundant (for no where near the amount these people are striking for) he then got a job in a hospital as a porter just wheeling beds around, he gets more doing that, gets flexi time and a host of other benefits and can't believe this can happen Edited March 8, 2010 by robo1968 Quote
Fool's Gold Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 The last few times I have come back on a flight to the U.K it always makes me smile when I get to Passport control to see a big 'Welcome to Britain' sign hung from the ceiling and below it a row of halfilled booths without a white person in sight....... And I still have to queue for ages. Atleast today they'll have an excuse for being more crap and surly than usual for 2 days Have you noticed that when you come back into 'your' country that it is you yourself that ends up in a massive queue while 'other passports' queue is pretty empty. And you're right, there's usually only one of several booths open at any time. Quote
xux42 Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 "Under the new system - which takes effect in April and will save about £500m - those laid off and taking voluntary redundancy will have their pay-offs capped at £60,000." The civil service are lying to us (their employers). People on £30K will be capped at £60K. People on £40K will be capped at £80K and so on. Expect more of this rubbish and don't believe anything they say. An ex-civil servant friend of mine walked away with £120K (net) of taxpayer money a few years back. Got another job within 6 months - only because his other half threatened to chuck him out. Most of the cash is still sitting in the bank AFAIK. Another friend is 30 year MOD and would get even better terms. I dread to think what he would get - hundreds of thousands. Hundreds of thousands of civil servants have been lining up £100K+ in their late 40s early 50s so they can then please themselves until they collect their pensions. That is what all the fuss is about. None of this in enforceable BTW. The govt. can bust them down to 1 week per year of service any time they like. Have they go the balls to do this? That's the question. Quote
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