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"there Isn't Going To Be A Market Crash!" Who Wrote Kirsty Allsop's Anti-hpc Rant? Rate Topic: -----

#1 User is offline   bearORbullENIGMA 

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 01:37 PM

Who wrote Kirsty Allsop's Anti-HPC rant?

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"In short, we must face the fact that the purely free society will have a flourishing free market in children."

"Parents would be able to sell their trustee-rights in children to anyone who wished to buy them at
any mutually agreed price."

- Murray Rothbard, The ethics of liberty, p103-104




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Posted 04 March 2010 - 01:40 PM

View PostbearORbullENIGMA, on 04 March 2010 - 01:37 PM, said:

Who wrote Kirsty Allsop's Anti-HPC rant?

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"Just for the schadenfreude" - Love it!

Is B**** still a member of this venerable forum?

Note: edited as requested!

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 01:42 PM

View Posturban commando, on 04 March 2010 - 01:40 PM, said:

"Just for the schadenfreude" - Love it!

Is Bruno still a member of this venerable forum?


Please edit the B word out of your post or this thread will be sent straight to the troll forum.

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"In short, we must face the fact that the purely free society will have a flourishing free market in children."

"Parents would be able to sell their trustee-rights in children to anyone who wished to buy them at
any mutually agreed price."

- Murray Rothbard, The ethics of liberty, p103-104




For information that a truly free society would neither fear nor suppress check out:

CapitalistHolocaust

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 01:43 PM

View PostbearORbullENIGMA, on 04 March 2010 - 01:37 PM, said:

Who wrote Kirsty Allsop's Anti-HPC rant?

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For those people who describe a crash as an 80's style event... eg rapid reduction in prices leading to an overcorrection against trend.... Kirsty of course remains MORE RIGHT than those who have consistently been predicting a crash since 2003......... of course a further price correction will occur, but I am very doubtful that it will occur in a form that would allow for the use of the word crash. Like it or not Kirsty has a point... so far.

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 01:43 PM

That's a great video, nicely surmises the insanity in the thinking of people like Allsop

Despite her idiotic claims there, if more people had listened to the fantastic analysis here down the years we wouldn't have ended up in the appalling place we are now

I can't think of anywhere else that spotted the bubble sooner and called it right all along

Even some predicting the insane bailout that has occurred

But it's easy to just throw dung and say everyone here is spreading rumours about the housing market crashing because we want hard-working families and puppy dogs kicked to death

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 01:44 PM

View Postabharrisson, on 04 March 2010 - 01:43 PM, said:

Kirsty of course remains MORE RIGHT than those who have consistently been predicting a crash since 2003


:lol: :lol: :lol:
oh man, that's a classic

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 01:45 PM

View PostbearORbullENIGMA, on 04 March 2010 - 01:42 PM, said:

Please edit the B word out of your post or this thread will be sent straight to the troll forum.


Oops sorry! :o Done as requested.

What's the story behind the "B Word"?

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 01:51 PM

View Postabharrisson, on 04 March 2010 - 01:43 PM, said:

For those people who describe a crash as an 80's style event... eg rapid reduction in prices leading to an overcorrection against trend.... Kirsty of course remains MORE RIGHT than those who have consistently been predicting a crash since 2003......... of course a further price correction will occur, but I am very doubtful that it will occur in a form that would allow for the use of the word crash. Like it or not Kirsty has a point... so far.


You mean a fall in real, not nominal terms?



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Posted 04 March 2010 - 01:52 PM

View Postpete.hpc, on 04 March 2010 - 01:44 PM, said:

:lol: :lol: :lol:
oh man, that's a classic


Its a classic fact at the moment... you might find it unpaletable but it is true. ...... personally I don't think prices will rise, I do think they'll fall but I am honest enough with myself to recognise where we are now.... which is that a crash has not happened yet and so Kirsty to all intents currently remains correct.... like it or not my little muppet.

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 01:53 PM

he was and is a legend.apparently,cut off in his prime by the vagaries of the Mental Health Act.

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Blaming greed for a banking crisis is like blaming gravity for an airplane crash. Injin 10/12/2009 (a rare moment of clarity)

View PostRed Kharma, on 31 May 2010 - 11:51 AM, said:

Most gold buyers will get creamed, eventually and for the very reasons they think they won't.

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 01:53 PM

View Posturban commando, on 04 March 2010 - 01:45 PM, said:

Oops sorry! :o Done as requested.

What's the story behind the "B Word"?


Oh where do we start



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Posted 04 March 2010 - 01:58 PM

View Postabharrisson, on 04 March 2010 - 01:52 PM, said:

Its a classic fact at the moment... you might find it unpaletable but it is true. ...... personally I don't think prices will rise, I do think they'll fall but I am honest enough with myself to recognise where we are now.... which is that a crash has not happened yet and so Kirsty to all intents currently remains correct.... like it or not my little muppet.


utter crap, did you miss the massive house price crash in 2008?

to suggest Allsop is more right than this website is almost beyond comprehension, but let's pretend it was delivered seriously

Allsop has used absolutely no intellect and instead blind, idiotic faith to parrot forever that the market could not crash. this was based on nothing but her lack of exposure to a housing crash, her lack of understanding of basic economics and instead she was led by her exposure to people talking the market up via unsubstantiated bullshit

In contrast, this place has called it right from the start. It has highlighted why house prices are overpriced and why they will crash. in 2005 the BofE made an unprecedented decision to ignore the signs and attempt to prolong the boom in the face of government interference. This place again correctly said this was postponing the problem and making it worse, which it did, you might have noticed the banking system collapsed and house prices fell 20% in one year. the government have still not learnt their lesson and have tried postponing the problem AGAIN, this time making it an issue that could have truly devestating effects, and yet because this has all been done to chase votes and pander to twats like Krusty, it's possible to claim she is "more right"

Truly laughable. What's your favourite saying? "save me from these idiots" :lol:

Hey look everyone, there is absolutely no housing crash in this graph

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 01:59 PM

View Postbuytoilet, on 04 March 2010 - 01:53 PM, said:

Oh where do we start




Ah yes, I see.

Doesn't have quite the same ring to it as that classic by The Special AKA: "Free Nelson Mandela!"



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Posted 04 March 2010 - 02:15 PM

View Postabharrisson, on 04 March 2010 - 01:52 PM, said:

Its a classic fact at the moment... you might find it unpaletable but it is true. ...... personally I don't think prices will rise, I do think they'll fall but I am honest enough with myself to recognise where we are now.... which is that a crash has not happened yet and so Kirsty to all intents currently remains correct.... like it or not my little muppet.


unfortunately i have to agree with you. we have had only about a 10% nominal fall so far, and this is now 2 years since the peak. what happens going forward i do not know, but so far, house price crash (circa 2004) has been DEAD wrong.

the rampant money printing that was forewarned did come to pass. the ridiculous interest rates also. a whole year now at 0.5%. this is not the kind of environment where crash predictions are all that wise.

but there is time yet. always more time.

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 02:21 PM

here is the sign of the times.

"No fresh aid for economy from rate-setters" - so 0.5% IRs for a whole year is apparently considered a neutral stance!

Meanwhile house prices also registered their first fall in nearly a year during February, according to house price surveys from Halifax and Nationwide.

Members of the MPC have also dropped hints that more QE could be in the offing if the recovery fails to gain traction and the threat of a dreaded "double-dip" recession looms.


it is not like they pull any surprises. they have said all along what they would do, and they have done so. what surprises me is that people (all over the world, apparently) seem not to believe it and continue to accumulate bonds and checking deposits bearing these ridiculous massively negative real interest rates!

well, people hoarding government paper do not deserve to command any wealth, frankly.

madness!

link: http://www.independe...rs-1916094.html

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