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HOLA441
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Andrew Neather said the mass influx of migrant workers seen in recent years was not the result of a mistake or miscalculation, but rather a policy the party preferred not to reveal to its core voters.
Sir Andrew Green, chairman of think tank Migrationwatch UK, said: "Many have long suspected that mass immigration under Labour was not a ****-up but also a conspiracy, they were right."

and there we have it.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/Ex-Government-Adviser-Andrew-Neather-Says-Mass-Immigration-To-UK-Was-Deliberate/Article/200910415414170?lpos=Politics_First_Home_Page_Feature_Teaser_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15414170_Ex-Government_Adviser_Andrew_Neather_Says_Mass_Immigration_To_UK_Was_Deliberate_

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HOLA442
Guest BoomBoomCrash
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This could be the revelation that brings this government down.

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HOLA443
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erm, was this not a reason why Joe Soap had begun to drift to the extreme parties - because they had actually begun to work this out for themselves ? :unsure:

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HOLA445
Guest UK Debt Slave
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This could be the revelation that brings this government down.

God! I sooo wish

But these fekkers are so thick skinned and arrogant, they just wont go unless the people finally get off their backsies and kick them out

The jury's out whether that'll happen.

3 months ago I would have said NO CHANCE

Now........I'm not so sure

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HOLA446
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I remember seeing an interview on tv with David Blunkett where he said that Labour deliberately tried to engineer a new version of Britishness so that they could take "Take the flag back from the far right" as he put it. This coming from Tony Blair's speech writer is a well timed bomb if you want to divide a country. My God.

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Guest BoomBoomCrash
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What this amounts to is a war against the working class.

1. Foster a socio-political environment in which any opposition to unfettered immigration sees you branded a racist

2. Talk up skills shortages that for some bizarre reason can only be fixed by importing cheap labour from other parts of Europe.

3. Hope that the sheeple don't question why if the labour market is demand driven the labour filling the skills gap is so cheap.

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HOLA448
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I remember seeing an interview on tv with David Blunkett where he said that Labour deliberately tried to engineer a new version of Britishness so that they could take "Take the flag back from the far right" as he put it. This coming from Tony Blair's speech writer is a well timed bomb if you want to divide a country. My God.

it backfired , just like all of labours schemes

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HOLA4410
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All of this free advertising for the BNP is perhaps I think is a dirty trick on behalf of Labour to split the right wing vote. It's playing with fire of course but when has that ever stopped Labour from doing something crazy.

If you imagine a situation without this ploy where there is a close election then the totals might look like this:

Con: 45% Victor

Lab 35%

Lib 15%

Other 5%

After massive free advertising for the BNP done by Labour:

Lab 32% Victor

Con 28% | Right wing vote split

BNP: 20% |

Lib: 17%

Other:3%

EDIT:

Another advantage of free advertising for the BNP as opposed to the UKIP is that the conservatives couldn't really form a coalition with the BNP whereas they might be able to form a coalition with the UKIP since their policies are not ridiculously extreme.

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HOLA4411
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All of this free advertising for the BNP is perhaps I think is a dirty trick on behalf of Labour to split the right wing vote. It's playing with fire of course but when has that ever stopped Labour from doing something crazy.

If you imagine a situation without this ploy where there is a close election then the totals might look like this:

Con: 45% Victor

Lab 35%

Lib 15%

Other 5%

After massive free advertising for the BNP done by Labour:

Lab 32% Victor

Con 28% | Right wing vote split

BNP: 20% |

Lib: 17%

Other:3%

EDIT:

Another advantage of free advertising for the BNP as opposed to the UKIP is that the conservatives couldn't really form a coalition with the BNP whereas they might be able to form a coalition with the UKIP since their policies are not ridiculously extreme.

+1 Good post. I was going to question where UKIP come int the equation - but it looks like you've answered that.

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HOLA4412
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They just have the standard priviliged left hatred for the country.

Been quite obvious throughout.

EDIT: Della, the flaw in your argument is that the BNP isn't a right wing party and will hurt Labour more than the Tories.

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HOLA4413
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All of this free advertising for the BNP is perhaps I think is a dirty trick on behalf of Labour to split the right wing vote. It's playing with fire of course but when has that ever stopped Labour from doing something crazy.

If you imagine a situation without this ploy where there is a close election then the totals might look like this:

Con: 45% Victor

Lab 35%

Lib 15%

Other 5%

After massive free advertising for the BNP done by Labour:

Lab 32% Victor

Con 28% | Right wing vote split

BNP: 20% |

Lib: 17%

Other:3%

But wouldn't the BNP take as many votes from the traditional Labour supporters than traditional true blues? I think they would take equally - or maybe the Labourites would go to the BNP, while Tories would go to UKIP.

Personally, I do not see how anyone with a conscience can vote either Lab or Con. The BNP are out of it morally too, which only really leaves UKIP and the useless Dim Lebs, barring the SNP and PC if you are in Scotland/Wales of course. Personally, I believe that Britain deserves all it is going to get over the next 20-50 years for the single act of reelecting Labour after Iraq. Yes, it was a minority of the country overall, but I just hope those who did not vote have the opportunities to take themselves elsewhere and make a go of their lives, leaving the rest who did vote Lab in 2003 to stew in their own juice (while celebrating multiculturalism, diversity and permanent HPI, of course).

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HOLA4414
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Is this revelation by Blair's speech writer a 'bombshell', or will it simply be talked away and forgotten within a week?

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HOLA4415
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EDIT: Della, the flaw in your argument is that the BNP isn't a right wing party and will hurt Labour more than the Tories.

It may not be a free market party, and it's economic policies might be fairly socialist, but there is a certain superficial extreme right wingness to these parties that makes people think they are very right wing, for example they tend to say very loudly they are very right wing.

The Nazi party was economically communism-lite, it was the "National Socialist German Workers party", it had "Socialism" and "Workers" in the title, but the Nazi party is still somehow considered very right wing, and did tend to take votes off of right wing parties.

EDIT:

The whole concept of right and left labeling of poltical parties is very arbitrary anyway.

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HOLA4416
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The Truth Is Out Now

Labour 'Encouraged Mass Immigration To UK'

Who is suprised at this admission?

Maybe I am slightly suprised that they admitted it but was aware they had done it.

As always look at the deeds not the retoric

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HOLA4417
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Andrew Neather said the mass influx of migrant workers seen in recent years was not the result of a mistake or miscalculation, but rather a policy the party preferred not to reveal to its core voters.

Is this really a revelation? Surely it was obvious to everyone.

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HOLA4418
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All of this free advertising for the BNP is perhaps I think is a dirty trick on behalf of Labour to split the right wing vote. It's playing with fire of course but when has that ever stopped Labour from doing something crazy.

If you imagine a situation without this ploy where there is a close election then the totals might look like this:

Con: 45% Victor

Lab 35%

Lib 15%

Other 5%

After massive free advertising for the BNP done by Labour:

Lab 32% Victor

Con 28% | Right wing vote split

BNP: 20% |

Lib: 17%

Other:3%

EDIT:

Another advantage of free advertising for the BNP as opposed to the UKIP is that the conservatives couldn't really form a coalition with the BNP whereas they might be able to form a coalition with the UKIP since their policies are not ridiculously extreme.

...this is complete rubbish ...like Hitler the BNP is aiming for the working class and underclass ....the ones who are suffering due to Labours policies in the inner cities and suburbs ....NG is not articulate ...comes over as a complete moron ....and will therefore appeal to a certain element in the population ...they are his likely recruits ...and Labour will need to get their fingers out if they don't wish to be smashed as they will be by the SNP in Scotland....the Tories just have to sit tight bring on a few MPs like the Baroness ..but without the all lady shortlists... .and should gain in England without a problem .... <_<

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HOLA4419
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This is an absolutr disgrace and nothing short of treason and if true the whole cabinet should be put on trial.

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HOLA4420
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and the useless Dim Lebs

I wouldn't write them off completely - I dearly hope they do very well in the next election, though the polls suggest they won't.

There's going to be a party of the left and a party of the right, assuming you don't want to live in some sort of one party state. I'd rather have the party of the left not be a bunch of authoritarian crypto-fascists. No matter how useless the LibDems are or are not, they aren't outright evil like those Zanu fekkers.

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HOLA4421
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There's going to be a party of the left and a party of the right,

So that's tory left and bnp right then ?

Should be fun !!!!

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HOLA4422
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...this is complete rubbish ...like Hitler the BNP is aiming for the working class and underclass ....

Agreed. Populism and Thatcherism (for that is what the next government will be) are worlds apart.

The so-called "right wing" policies of the BNP (e.g. capital punishment) are not really a question of left and right, they are simply populist. A BNP government would subjugate the individual to the state (compare to communist countries like China & Vietnam).

I often think the people who are most keen on referring to the "far right" tag are trying to inculcate a neat political spectrum with the BNP a bit ot the right of the Tories, rather than part left (near the old labour dinosaurs), part right.

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HOLA4423
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All based on skill shortages deliberately engineered by employers (CBI Types) shying responsibility for their required skill sets, then went crying poverty to the listening ear of the government. Employers won both ways, ie; no training/career path responsibilities and lower wages instead of competing with their much loved and conveniently forgotten 'Market forces' when it comes to wage rates. And for all those expecting the Tories to give a f u c k, forget it, keeping wages down and workers in servitude is right up their constituancy, they currently sell lunches to 'City' bankers and CBI employers in order to find out 'what they want', this in turn will dictate policy. Just look at who they are taking advice from re their housing strategy, miss piggy Alsop herself. Labour have proved to be Tories in baa baa's clothing.

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HOLA4424
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It backs up the exasperation of the French about the Calais migrant camps. They always said the UK was encouraging the influx.

This policy was mainly devised to create the house price bubble. Increasing UK population, creating a housing shortage, maintaining low wages therefore low CPI and interest rates and creating a booming service/public sector. I have thought for years that the UK economy functioned as if people were just another commodity to be imported, principally in order to create pressure on housing and drive up house prices. They cleverly coupled this with support to BTL through housing benefits and tax breaks. This created a housing boom entirely funded and engineered by the government.

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HOLA4425
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I think this revelation is designed / timed to get the backs up of the British so that they will support any program they "may have" to get rid of 90% of the "asylum" seekers & "gangs" of lads every town seems to have etc etc etc......................... They are a drain on society & they economy & we all know it. Cut their benefits now.

The reason ??? To save billions of pounds

IT'S TIME WE TOOK THE UK BACK !!!!!

If you PC brigade don't like this idea then tough sheet.

Example of the madness in this country...................................

my mate has a BTL & it is converted into 4 flats. Each flat has an Iraqi lad in it & has all new white goods etc for them to use. I forget which government department he has the contract with but ultimately it is us the taxpayer that will pick up the huge bill. One lad was told he couldn't stay & so he appealed & now he is back in the system awaiting another trail which will take at least one more year. He has come to the UK because he claims it isn't safe for him to go to Iraq & whilst he is going through an appeal he has to surrender his passport ( not 100% sure about when he does surrender his passport but he does have to surrender his passport & this part is important) when he gets it back he the books a flight back home to see his familly in Iraq. The place he tells the authorities he daren't go back to.

This must be happening thousands of times over up & down the country & is providing more & more people with non jobs.

Labour has committed treason against this country IMO & I would gladly see the lot of them shot for it

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