Superted187 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 We regularly run out of parking spaces at work and as a consequence often have to park on the adjacent residential street. One of my colleagues got a note on his car today basically saying that it was "disgusting" that he parked outside of a particular house. (I'll get the full body of the message tomorrow morning when I get back into work). A few of us have had notes like this on our cars. We are aware that on a public highway with no abnormal parking controls (yellow lines, residents parking, etc), we can park where ever we like as long as our vehicles are road legal (taxed, insured, etc). My question is: Is it Illegal for this resident to have posted the note onto my colleague's car? Does it in someway constitute harassment? Thanks in advance for any tips / pointers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Homeowners get very stressed about this kind of thing - imagine coming home and constantly being unable to park your car. What if you have a disabled or elderly person in your home that you need to get the car close to the house in order to help them in and out? I can't answer your legal question but I would personally park my car elsewhere. Might return one day to find the car damaged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superted187 Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share Posted April 24, 2012 Homeowners get very stressed about this kind of thing - imagine coming home and constantly being unable to park your car. The homeowner has a driveway What if you have a disabled or elderly person in your home that you need to get the car close to the house in order to help them in and out? Get a disabled badge and have the council designate you a disabled spot. I can't answer your legal question but I would personally park my car elsewhere. Might return one day to find the car damaged? It's a public highway. So he should just park elsewhere because this person might decide that they have the right to damage this guys car just because they incorrectly believe they have the right to the spot of public highway outside of their home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 As long as they don't damage the car, there is f##k all you can do. They can put as many notes like that on the cars as they are bothered to write. If they start to threaten in the notes, the by allk means take it to the police, but he can make your life harder than you can do to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ungeared Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Homeowners get very stressed about this kind of thing - imagine coming home and constantly being unable to park your car. What if you have a disabled or elderly person in your home that you need to get the car close to the house in order to help them in and out? I can't answer your legal question but I would personally park my car elsewhere. Might return one day to find the car damaged? Disabled car driver around here get painted disabled parking bays, people get too sad about their rights to park outside their house, I once had a neighnour who used to put two cones outside his house, if there was no spaces left i'd remove his cones and park in the space, you're taxed to use the road not to own it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 You don't say that the note threatens damage. Howeverm, the homeowner is an arrogant **** if s/he can't leave a polite request, and acts like they own the road outside their house. If they want to do that, they can go live in a private road. If I was asked politely, I would consider parking elsewhere. But if I got a rude note, i would be more inclined to park there again. In fact I'd buy a tatty ugly old van just to park it outside their house. And leave a note saying that their house was disgusting and blighted the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest unfunded_liability Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 We regularly run out of parking spaces at work and as a consequence often have to park on the adjacent residential street. One of my colleagues got a note on his car today basically saying that it was "disgusting" that he parked outside of a particular house. (I'll get the full body of the message tomorrow morning when I get back into work). A few of us have had notes like this on our cars. We are aware that on a public highway with no abnormal parking controls (yellow lines, residents parking, etc), we can park where ever we like as long as our vehicles are road legal (taxed, insured, etc). My question is: Is it Illegal for this resident to have posted the note onto my colleague's car? Does it in someway constitute harassment? Thanks in advance for any tips / pointers. Not sure about the legal aspect, but unless your colleague is able to monitor has car throughout the day it's a tussle he's unlikely to win. If he comes back one evening to find a tyre or two slashed there's nothing he can do about it or prove.This happened to me once and all I could do was not park there again. Ed. In my case there was no prior note so I had no idea who had slashed the tyre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superted187 Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share Posted April 24, 2012 As long as they don't damage the car, there is f##k all you can do. They can put as many notes like that on the cars as they are bothered to write. If they start to threaten in the notes, the by allk means take it to the police, but he can make your life harder than you can do to him. This is what I suspected. It's just not worth the risk. This stay at home tosser could go off at any point and damage the car. They've parked me in ridiculously tightly before. I hate these sad bastards. Just wish I could do something about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ayatollah Buggeri Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Unacceptably selfish behaviour - they believe that owning (or occupying a house) includes the road alongside it. If most or all the homes in a given street have off-road parking, then there isn't any justification in imposing restrictions on the on-street parking (e.g. residents' permit scheme). If they don't then it can be justified, but it's a case of caveat emptor. In the street where I grew up, the resident busybodies waged a ten-year war to get a residents' permit scheme introduced thanks to commuters taking the roadside spaces before heading for the tube station. They eventually got their way, and then promptly started complaining like mad about the cost of the permits! Your best bet is probably to stake out the car for a day with a video camera, and then when the phantom note-writer appears, make a note of the address from which he or she emerges, upload the video to YouTube and send the link to the local police together with a formal complaint of threatening behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 I really don't get this 'he may get his car done in' chat - this person knows where they park - but the other person knows where they live ffs ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19 year mortgage 8itch Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Homeowners get very stressed about this kind of thing - imagine coming home and constantly being unable to park your car. What if you have a disabled or elderly person in your home that you need to get the car close to the house in order to help them in and out? I can't answer your legal question but I would personally park my car elsewhere. Might return one day to find the car damaged? Apparently expecting a parking space near your house is unacceptably selfish but parking anywhere you like isn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ungeared Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 This is what I suspected. It's just not worth the risk. This stay at home tosser could go off at any point and damage the car. They've parked me in ridiculously tightly before. I hate these sad bastards. Just wish I could do something about it. I'd put a note through his letterbox stating if you lift my windscreen wiper and put a note under it again i'll break your ****ing fingers, i did this once and believe me they didnt do it again, i seriously detest these sad curtain twitchers who have eff all to do but think they own the land outside their houses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superted187 Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share Posted April 24, 2012 I really don't get this 'he may get his car done in' chat - this person knows where they park - but the other person knows where they live ffs ! Yes but whilst this nimby ar5ehole might be criminally minded, my colleague is not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascii Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Apparently expecting a parking space near your house is unacceptably selfish but parking anywhere you like isn't There has to be a bit of give and take. By the sounds of things though it's just a territory dispute; by all accounts the resident appears to have off road parking and is complaining about the public using public road. That sounds a bit petty to me. I had a neighbour complain about me blocking his drive; I had to point out to him he didn't own a car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 I am just pointing out that in these kinds of situations there is a possibility of returning to your car one day and finding it damaged. In that situation I would go and park elsewhere to save myself the worry and grief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Yes but whilst this nimby ar5ehole might be criminally minded, my colleague is not! The other person does not know this though ! Anyway enough of this lets get the important details - are they a 'home owner' and what is their house worth ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl1 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 No parking permit signs around then you can park there. Contrary to popular belief people don't own the road outside of their street & you pay car tax which is effectively your right to rent the road. The only exception to this is a dropped kerb, you are not allowed to park next to one. Otherwise post it here: http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/ (Have a laugh, feel superior and like you belong to an exclusive club). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worzel Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 We have some of these saddos on my street, had several notes on my car. Not remotely worried about damage to the car. I tend to shove the notes back through the letter box. If I can't park outside my house, I park in the next closest spot, doesn't bother me at all. People that assume they are entitled to a spot outside their house have too much time on their hands to think about stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 When I was at uni, the terraced house I lived in was opposite a block of offices. They had their own car park behind, but it was easier to park down our road as it was a shorter walk. I never had a car, so couldn't care less. Then one day someone bought the shit heap next door and started renovating, the chap knocked on our door and asked if the car outside was ours - no we replied, it's probably from the offices opposite. He left a few polite messages asking not to park their, but they ignored it. The day came when he painted the outside of the house, and there was probably more paint on the cars than the wall! The next knock was the police wanting witnesses, but it was obvious who did it. They always parked in their own car park from then on. All in all, there is nothing the home-owner/renter/squatter/nomad can do. However, it is very easy to damage a car so I wouldn't go out of your way to aggravate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Apparently expecting a parking space near your house is unacceptably selfish but parking anywhere you like isn't Expectation may not be selfish. But leaving rude notes is. The road is for everyone. If the note-leaver owns a car, no doubt they park outside other people's properties from time to time. If they don't own a car, they should remember that it is drivers that pay for the maintenance of the road outside their home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juvenal Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Talking of notes on cars, I heard of guy who returned to his car to find a dent in it. A note under the wiper read: "Sorry I hit your car. There are people watching me writing this, thinking I'm leaving my name and address. I'm not". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libspero Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 We regularly run out of parking spaces at work and as a consequence often have to park on the adjacent residential street. One of my colleagues got a note on his car today basically saying that it was "disgusting" that he parked outside of a particular house. (I'll get the full body of the message tomorrow morning when I get back into work). A few of us have had notes like this on our cars. We are aware that on a public highway with no abnormal parking controls (yellow lines, residents parking, etc), we can park where ever we like as long as our vehicles are road legal (taxed, insured, etc). If you actually know which house the complaint is coming from it makes it easier to knock on their door and have a chat or post a polite note through their letter box. Ultimately your car is vulnerable and if there is easy alternative parking available I'd take it. On the plus side you know they know you know where they live.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepLurker Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 I'm surprised that no one has criticised the business that can't be bothered supplying enough parking spaces for their staff. Surely, this is an example of socialising costs, while keeping the profits? To take an example: Tesco decides to not supply any car-parking any more. Customers can just park in the nearby residential streets. Tesco has just saved a load of dosh. Taxpayers have to pay for maintenance of parking spaces that are used exclusively by customers of a business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libspero Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 If the resident is REALLY bothered and the business is causing a local nuisance he should get together with some others on the street and petition the council to make the road residential permit holders only (which they'd have to pay for). If I left a polite note it would probably say something to that effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Expectation may not be selfish. But leaving rude notes is. The road is for everyone. If the note-leaver owns a car, no doubt they park outside other people's properties from time to time. If they don't own a car, they should remember that it is drivers that pay for the maintenance of the road outside their home. Drivers don't pay for the road maintenance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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